posted April 26, 2010 12:03 PM         

First of all I need help with the price list here and what all the abbreviations mean. HL, WL, LE, HN, CH, UZ and so on. There's lots of these abbreviations and I'm lost. I would like a list of what all the abbreviations mean on the MOTL price guide so I can elevuate the cards properly.

Getting these cards identified and sold is my main goal.

Any help and beginner info is appreciated.

Thanks!

posted April 26, 2010 12:18 PM            

The acronyms you listed are expansion set names:

HL = Homeslands
WL = Weatherlight
LE = Legends
CH = Chronicles
UZ = Urza's Saga

posted April 26, 2010 03:28 PM            

Ctrl + F and type in the card name.
It will tell you the value of the card based on ebay auction averages.

The greater the raw number, the greater the reliability of the price.

If the 1400 cards you acquired are a random mishmash of commons, uncommons, and rares, your best bet is to go to gatherer.wizards.com, filter for Revised (if that is the main set of most of the cards), and see which ones are uncommon and rare. No need to really search prices for the commons, but keep stuff like llanowar elves, giang growth, dark ritual, counterspell.

posted April 26, 2010 03:38 PM         

I have no idea what the raw number is. I was so consumed with other types of cards I never got into the game cards.

I will go to the sites you recommended. May be awhile but I will get there. I want the money.

posted April 26, 2010 04:17 PM            

Keep in mind 95% of commons are worthless. If you're a store you might be able to sell them for nickles/dimes one a piece but it will take a while and take up space.

posted April 26, 2010 04:34 PM         

The low value cards I don't want to hassle with. I'd just put them up on the web for a fixed price. I don't mess with cards for .25 cents.

Thanks, I'm learning alot from the people helping me.

posted April 26, 2010 10:27 PM         

I'd post pictures here but I guess MOTL doesn't allow pictures so I put them on my forum for anyone who wants a look.

Pictures For MOTL Members To View-Click Here

I have 3 Nevinyrrals Disk cards and they are supposed to be rare and book at $8.00 a pop. I haven't looked them up on the MOTL price list yet. I got the prices on another site.

I took a pic of the whole box of MTG cards. Lots of triples and on some I have 5 to 10 copies.

After I get organised to go through them we'll see.

P.S. The cards I looked at are the 1994 revised edition.

posted April 27, 2010 11:20 AM            

The MOTL price guide uses the same method for calculating value to my understanding, but I just find it difficult/tedious to look through when you're in a hurry, even with CTRL+F. Apathyhouse is just formatted more to my liking, so hopefully it helps out.

A bit of friendly advice: make sure you don't try to inflate any of your prices very far at all beyond their actual market value, because there are a few rather notorious and popular trolls around this site who will shamelessly and unscrupulously flame you back to the stone age.

posted April 27, 2010 12:35 PM         

I'm looking around to find the highest reasonable price level to sell these cards at. I do look on Ebay also. The cards may have once been listed on Ebay but if certain cards only get listed rarely and the price guide doesn't pick up on this it's time to boost prices. The Ebay price guides may have picked up on a card that was listed along time ago but that card has not been listed by anybody else since that one listing.

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Originally posted by Aznopium:
Nev Disks are 2.50-3. maybe a tad more now since one legacy deck runs it MB.

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If another site is selling for $8.00 and the price Ebay price guide puts them at $2.50 I was thinking $5.00. It all depends on how easy the cards are to find on the web. The price guide is as the word stated, Just a "Guide" and not any kind of a fixed or set price resource. Most people think the word "Guide" is what fixed price collectables have to be sold at but it is only an approx. resource to gauge what people are paying for certain items. If all collectors sell at higher than guide the prices in the guide will go up eventually.

I'll find out which cards are rare and do some extra work to see how easy I can find these cards on the internet and boost my price from the extra work I do. Lots of people dump on Ebay just to chase the feedback star. They never make any money and it drives collectable prices down.

posted April 27, 2010 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Gum Stick Cards:
If another site is selling for $8.00 and the price Ebay price guide puts them at $2.50 I was thinking $5.00. It all depends on how easy the cards are to find on the web. The price guide is as the word stated, Just a "Guide" and not any kind of a fixed or set price resource. Most people think the word "Guide" is what fixed price collectables have to be sold at but it is only an approx. resource to gauge what people are paying for certain items. If all collectors sell at higher than guide the prices in the guide will go up eventually.

I'll find out which cards are rare and do some extra work to see how easy I can find these cards on the internet and boost my price from the extra work I do. Lots of people dump on Ebay just to chase the feedback star. They never make any money and it drives collectable prices down.

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No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to make it true. It seems like a lot of the cards you have (judging from the two pictures you posted) are either not worth much at all, or are very easy to come by on this site, let alone ebay.

If you want to list your Disk for $5, that's your right. But when they're going for $3 a pop on ebay or other sales threads on MOTL, you're going to be holding on to that Disk for a while.

posted April 27, 2010 12:54 PM            

You won't find selling cards on a site like this very easy with a 50% markup over MOTL. People on this board (and many others) expect to get cards at around ebay prices. The only reason they sell here instead of ebay is because there are no fees.

Those who buy from stores at prices even close to what you're suggesting do so for a few reasons. The reputation of the site is probably the biggest one. Sites like StarCityGames.com can demand higher prices because you know exactly what you're getting from them. Some random guy who bought up a bulk collection and wants to sell it online isn't going to command that same respect.

Stores that charge $8 for disk probably don't sell many disks. The only way I would even consider $5 is if the card was gem mint. Condition plays a major factor in the price of some older cards. EX vs. NM can be up to a 20% price difference on many cards.

posted April 27, 2010 01:09 PM         

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Originally posted by OGB:
No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to make it true. It seems like a lot of the cards you have (judging from the two pictures you posted) are either not worth much at all, or are very easy to come by on this site, let alone ebay.

If you want to list your Disk for $5, that's your right. But when they're going for $3 a pop on ebay or other sales threads on MOTL, you're going to be holding on to that Disk for a while.

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Yea, I understand what you are saying and what you are saying is very very true. Are there any other disk cards from the 1994 revised deck up for sale here on MOTL or Ebay? Any at all?

I haven't even went through that big box shown on Gum Stick. I only went through about 10 cards and put it aside. I found the disk cards right off the top.

That site I found the disk card on for $8.00 only had 1. This is why they pumped the price on it up over what the said going rate for these cards is. Just wait until all the other disk cards sell out on other sites for the $3.00 if there are any.

I have other income sources so I will wait until you sell your disk card for $3.00 and there are no more. Sounds like a good plan. Maybe in about 2 or 3 years my disk card will sell for $8.00 since it will be only one of two on the internet.

We'll see.
Thanks!

posted April 27, 2010 01:21 PM         

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Originally posted by iccarus:
I guess this is really going to come down on how you're expecting to sell these cards.

You won't find selling cards on a site like this very easy with a 50% markup over MOTL. People on this board (and many others) expect to get cards at around ebay prices. The only reason they sell here instead of ebay is because there are no fees.

Those who buy from stores at prices even close to what you're suggesting do so for a few reasons. The reputation of the site is probably the biggest one. Sites like StarCityGames.com can demand higher prices because you know exactly what you're getting from them. Some random guy who bought up a bulk collection and wants to sell it online isn't going to command that same respect.

Stores that charge $8 for disk probably don't sell many disks. The only way I would even consider $5 is if the card was gem mint. Condition plays a major factor in the price of some older cards. EX vs. NM can be up to a 20% price difference on many cards.

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I have a reputation also. No, it's not a bad reputation. I don't sell to many cards because of the jacked up prices I have on them. If I can't make at least $1.00 off of it, the card will be donated to the Vets. Guaranteed!

If you can't tell I'm not looking for the quick sale. I don't sell on Ebay even though I used to.

You can list and post on Ioffer.com for free. They have traffic and only charge a low FVF or I think it is about .50 FVF on nickle and dime stuff like .25 cent trading cards.

There's other places besides Ebay. Ebay is to big and to fat for its own good. Now that Ebay jacked up all its selling fees you will see less and less cards on Ebay. I think Online Auctions picked up about 60,000 or so card listings from ex-Ebay sellers.

I'm willing to wait, no problem. I do have a reputation. Just not enough people know about my excellent reputation.

posted April 27, 2010 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Gum Stick Cards:
I do have a reputation. Just not enough people know about my excellent reputation.

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rep·u·ta·tion   /ˌrɛpyəˈteɪʃən/ Show Spelled[rep-yuh-tey-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun
1.the estimation in which a person or thing is held, esp. by the community or the public generally; repute: a man of good reputation.

posted April 27, 2010 01:56 PM            

Just to give you an idea, without duals, your box of 1400 Revised Magic Cards is essentially a box of jank that no one is gonna give you money for. You can piece out the individual, pseudo-valuable rares to turn a few bucks profit, but at the end of the day you're not gonna get anywhere. Making money on Magic cards on any sort of consistently profitable basis requires at least a basic understanding of what cards are popular, WHY they are popular, and thus what there approximate value is.

posted April 27, 2010 02:01 PM            

All we're telling you is the way things are. You can delude yourself and have your own opinions on the nature of the collectible's market when it comes to magic cards, but they are not shared by the majority of people out there.

Sure, I'd love the stack of Disks I have sitting in a box to be worth $8 a pop. It's not going to happen though and I'd probably be laughed out of here if I tried to charge that.

I would urge you not to post a sales list here...but I actually enjoy watching bad threads get derailed.

EDIT: I would heed Gawain's advice, if I were you.

posted April 27, 2010 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Gum Stick Cards:
Yea, I understand what you are saying and what you are saying is very very true. Are there any other disk cards from the 1994 revised deck up for sale here on MOTL or Ebay? Any at all?

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Yes, do the research. There are several. Revised is nothing special, either. You don't even have the minimal knowledge to make a coherent post, and yet...

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Originally posted by Gum Stick Cards:
I haven't even went through that big box shown on Gum Stick. I only went through about 10 cards and put it aside. I found the disk cards right off the top.

That site I found the disk card on for $8.00 only had 1. This is why they pumped the price on it up over what the said going rate for these cards is. Just wait until all the other disk cards sell out on other sites for the $3.00 if there are any.

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Wait for it...

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Originally posted by Gum Stick Cards:
I have other income sources so I will wait until you sell your disk card for $3.00 and there are no more. Sounds like a good plan. Maybe in about 2 or 3 years my disk card will sell for $8.00 since it will be only one of two on the internet.

We'll see.
Thanks!

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So you have 3 Disks. You want to wait 3 years to make $15? I'm sure your business is booming. Sick ROI, kid.

posted April 27, 2010 03:43 PM         

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Originally posted by OGB:
rep·u·ta·tion   /ˌrɛpyəˈteɪʃən/ Show Spelled[rep-yuh-tey-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun
1.the estimation in which a person or thing is held, esp. by the community or the public generally; repute: a man of good reputation.

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Yea, that's me. A man of good reputation. You pay me the $8.00 and I will get it to you as described.

P.S. plus the shipping charge

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Originally posted by Gawain:
Here's the bottom line man. You can hang on to that Disk until your grandchildren have grandchildren, and it's not gonna go over $3.00. Hell, I'm shocked it's worth that much TBH. The market is absolutely flooded with old Magic Cards, aside from super-rare sets such as Legends or Arabian Nights, and about the only two genres of cards that are ever worth cash at any given time are old power and hot type 2 (current tournament sets). Disclaimer for all Magic savvy readers, I'm trying to simplify this for the sake of proving a point, so I realize that I'm leaving out several nuances to this argument.

This is a great site for it, but believe me, its members do not have infinite patience. If you want to be able to utilize the collective knowledge of MOTL, you have to first recognize and acknowledge that you have a lot to learn.

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Actually, everthing you stated I already covered. If you have a stack of disk cards why aren't you selling them for $3.00 a pop? If your disk cards aren't up for sale then it would be a great time for me to list mine for $8.00 since there are none up for sale anywhere.

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Originally posted by iccarus
Your reputation is apparently based on your own self-inflated ego.
All we're telling you is the way things are. You can delude yourself and have your own opinions on the nature of the collectible's market when it comes to magic cards, but they are not shared by the majority of people out there.

Sure, I'd love the stack of Disks I have sitting in a box to be worth $8 a pop. It's not going to happen though and I'd probably be laughed out of here if I tried to charge that.

I would urge you not to post a sales list here...but I actually enjoy watching bad threads get derailed.

EDIT: I would heed Gawain's advice, if I were you.

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What's the big deal if I list my disk card for more than you are selling your disk card for. Doesn't that mean a buyer will buy yours first before they purchase mine?

What's with all the threats? I never threatened anybody here. I just stated the truth about selling anything but I guess it goes against the code of the established group mentality.

If I sell my cards for alot more why would it upset anyone? Don't figure! It just means I don't sell my card for $8.00 and you sell your card for $3.00. Why all the backlash and harshness?

If I produce a list of cards that's over the price guide norm why would anybody get P.O.'d about it and attack my listing? Just makes no sense!

This is the U.S.A. Anybody can sell whatever they have for whatever price they want to sell it for if they are willing to sit on the item for an extented period of time until someone comes along that wants to pay the asking price.

Having a group of people dictate to you the prices you have to sell at in order to be active on a forum is absurd.

Many members here have mentioned the pros and cons about selling at guide value and above guide value and that's great and the American way.

But you "iccarus" and "Gawain" aren't anyones dictators and you two do not control the prices people have to sell their cards at. You two bullying and threatening members on this forum or any other forum is a crock of B.S.

posted April 27, 2010 03:54 PM         

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Originally posted by OGB:
Yes, do the research. There are several. Revised is nothing special, either. You don't even have the minimal knowledge to make a coherent post, and yet...

Wait for it...

So you have 3 Disks. You want to wait 3 years to make $15? I'm sure your business is booming. Sick ROI, kid.

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As I stated in earlier posts, most card buyers in the 1990's purchased cards (all types) as an investment to resell for profits. Cards pre 1980's are gaining value because they were purchased for kids to play with and not as investments. The market is flooded with 1990's cards people purchased for investment and everyone of these people is losing money.

Have to be willing to wait many years or you lose.

posted April 27, 2010 04:09 PM            

You are a pompous ass sir.
You come here asking for help and when you get it, you act like a total JAGOFF!

Learn to play the game and then maybe you will understand your 'disk' card is practically worthless.

Good luck selling your cards, but but do it somewhere else and stop wasting the member of MOTL's time.