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Topic: Vanishing 4-Card Blind Tournament, Round 39
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Liq Member
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posted September 02, 2010 11:32 AM
  
well at least this week i don't need to score a deck.__________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
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Myy Member
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posted September 02, 2010 11:35 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Liq: well at least this week i don't need to score a deck.
what card did you use that wasn't allowed?
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yakusoku Member
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posted September 02, 2010 12:07 PM

quote: Originally posted by Jazaray: As for wcfmo, if he casts the tidal warrior first and I edict it, he'll have the cursecatcher to counter my baloth. and then he casts the elephant and attacks me to death.
Cursecatcher only counters instants or sorceries. He can't counter your Baloth, only hope to lock you out with Tidal Warrior. Myy: Liq had a deck with Lightning Bolt, which was banned Round 34.
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DerFisch Member
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posted September 02, 2010 12:12 PM
  
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Guess people are finding their way around this dreaded deck. To be honest, I only copied and pasted it to get rid of it, because it annoyed the heck out of me. Also, I think MAB goes DD to Battle of Twits. BoT does nothing but play his lands until MAB plays the slime. If MAB doesn't cast innocent blood, BoT plays journey and wins with the elite. If he does cast innocent blood, he's got 2/2's which neither one measures up to BoT's 3/4 Elite, and he cant chump with both because BoT plays journey to nowhere on one of them before he attacks. So MAB plays nothing and they DD, because BoT can't play the elite before MAB casts Innocent blood.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by DerFisch on September 02, 2010]
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted September 02, 2010 12:35 PM

quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: Cursecatcher only counters instants or sorceries. He can't counter your Baloth, only hope to lock you out with Tidal Warrior.
Oh, I guess reading is tech. Heh.
Thanks, Jazaray __________________ A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick: There was a nice lassie named Jaz Many wished to have what she has, A delicate face, A soft warm embrace, And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom. Have dinner with Jaz
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 02, 2010 12:52 PM
  
I'm still working on this, MAB, I think I WW against you as I always play cursecatcher then tidal keeping your Hollow Trees as an Island swinging in w/ Rogue Elephant ftw.1. Jazaray WD - Yaku is right Jaz 4 Hickory Woodlot Peat Bog Obstinate Baloth Diabolic Edict 2. yakusoku -- Scrubland Rishadan Port Knight of Sursi Contaminated Ground 3. Alexisonfyre WD - 4 Saprazzan Skerry Coralhelm Commander Phantasmal Terrain Forget On draw Skerry, trop -> rogue elephant Coralhelm, attack 3 Skerry pump coral we watch...(I think this is based on optimal playing ) 4. wayne - WL - 3 Forest Noble Hierarch Noble Hierarch Qasali Pridemage See below 5. Myy WW - 6 - Tidal turns peat into island on play, cursecatcher turn 1, he plays creeper, I play warrior, he swings 3 he chains I cursecatcher, I play rogue elephant, he waits...I win race as soon as he attacks with Blindcreeper I start swinging for 4 or he blocks and hit him for 1 until he dies. Peat Bog Dodecapod Chain of Smog Blind Creeper 6. DerFisch WW - 6 Rogue Elephant is good Knight of Sursi Mind Swords Phyrexian Walker Scrubland 7. mattw WW 6 - on play I turn Forest into island, draw is below Forest City of Traitors Awakening Zone Jinxed Idol T1 forest : T1 tidal/curse T2 City/Zone : T2 swing 1 him 19, tidal/curse T3 Jinxed sac zone dude : me 18, rogue swing 17 T4 0/1 : me 16 swing chump rogue 15 I'm just fast enough as this happens continuously  8. MAB_Rapper WW - 6 On play and draw play Cursecatcher then Tidal warrior, turn hollow trees into an island so he can never play slime (you can't play it quick enough MAB as it takes 4-5 turns to get it going). Swamp Innocent Blood Hollow Trees Mitotic Slime 9. coinmagic45 WW - 6 My deck was jank, but it was good jank...everyone's gotta love a Sea's Claim that can swing for 1  Peat Bog Mesmeric Fiend Diabolic Edict Blind Creeper 10. Battle_of_Twits WD - 4 - See below? Llanowar Reborn Savannah Skyshroud Elite Journey to Nowhere 11. WCFmo XX Tidal Warrior Cursecatcher Rogue Elephant Tropical Island 12. junichi WW - 6, Icatian Store is not friends with Tidal Warrior Mana Tithe Baneslayer Angel Icatian Store Plains 13. Liq Illegal decklist Looks like my "haterator" deck did good this week  code:
## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 TOTAL 11 4 4 X 3 6 6 6 6 6 04 XX 06 51
[Edited 2 times, lastly by WCFmo on September 02, 2010]
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Myy Member
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posted September 02, 2010 01:06 PM
  
Congratulations WCFmo.. well played.
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 02, 2010 01:16 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Myy: Congratulations WCFmo.. well played.
Thank you sir. I may have messed up somewhere, but I'll be glad if I won this round so we don't have a bunch of other people playing Tidal Warrior decks for the next few weeks like we did w/ the Mind Swords decks when I played it 3 weeks ago 
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Myy Member
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posted September 02, 2010 01:19 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Thank you sir. I may have messed up somewhere, but I'll be glad if I won this round so we don't have a bunch of other people playing Tidal Warrior decks for the next few weeks like we did w/ the Mind Swords decks when I played it 3 weeks ago 
yeah, if you don't wanna shift the meta again, please be sure you win with the deck. :P
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junichi Moderator
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posted September 02, 2010 02:08 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Thank you sir. I may have messed up somewhere, but I'll be glad if I won this round so we don't have a bunch of other people playing Tidal Warrior decks for the next few weeks like we did w/ the Mind Swords decks when I played it 3 weeks ago 
pretty sure your match against wayne is wrong. he swings for 5, not 4, due to exalted x 3. edit: same thing with BoT. He can cast Journey on your elephant by not playing Savannah until you have the elephant out. __________________ 40 Eye of Ugin and 4 foil Eye of Ugin for Black Lotus!?"lol you'll see when these go for 50 bucks a piece in a couple months, you're just jealous. !" - Marciano 315 03/17/2010
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 02, 2010 02:55 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: pretty sure your match against wayne is wrong. he swings for 5, not 4, due to exalted x 3.edit: same thing with BoT. He can cast Journey on your elephant by not playing Savannah until you have the elephant out.
I will review and rescore later tonight if need be. Thanks. Edit - If he doesn't play his Savannah my play, I keep turning Llanowar into an Island ftw and attacking for one until he does. On his play he plays Llanowar and I play Tidal Warrior, he plays Skyshroud on T2, I Play Cursecatcher, T3 He swings for 3 me 17, My T3 I play Rogue Elephant making his guy 2/2. It is a draw, my fault on that one...unless there is a better play somewhere. WD? 4 4. wayne - WL 3 Forest Noble Hierarch Noble Hierarch Qasali Pridemage Play Tidal, Hierarch Curse, (turn forest into island) Hierarch Rogue Swing 2, Qasali Rogue Swing 3 (15), Qasali Swing 5 (15) Rogue + 2 little guys (10), I still win...I think. Draw Noble, Tidal Qasali, Curse Noble swing 5 (15), Rogue swing 2 ...I don't think I win this one then.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by WCFmo on September 02, 2010]
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mattw Member
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posted September 02, 2010 06:35 PM
  
This is my first time actually playing these games out in my head and on paper so bear with me, i'm gonna make some mistakes.I'm marking as i go first then second. Jazaray - WW Yakusoku - ?? Alexisonfyre - DL Wayne - LL I never even checked, just assumed. Myy - DL DerFisch - LL Seriously? lame. MabRapper - WW CoinMagic - WL Battle_of_Twits - WW WCFmo - LL Junichi - LL Liq - ?? ## 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 TOTAL 07 06 ?? 01 00 01 00 xx 06 03 06 00 00 ?? 23 Pfff, and my buddy wanted me to play this deck.
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coinmagic45 Member
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posted September 02, 2010 07:10 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: I think it should be WL for you.On his play, he plays turn 1 city, jinxed idol. Turn 2, he floats 2 from city, play his forest, and casts awakening zone.
You're right that my analysis is not correct, but I think it's still WW for me: Turn 1 Idol. I play Bog. He goes to 18 and plays Awakening Zone. I play Creeper. He goes to 16, makes a token, and trades Idol. I go to 18 and attack him to 13 and play Fiend. From here he gets a chump blocker and blocks Creeper, letting Fiend through. The score changes on my turn: 16-12, 14-11, 12-10, 10-9, 8-8, 6-7. On the turn my life goes to 4, I attack him down to 6 and sacrifice Fiend to trade Idol. On his upkeep, he gets a token, takes 2 damage (going to 4), and trades Idol back to me. This leaves him without a chump-blocker for Creeper, so I go to 2 and attack him to 1 and trade the Idol back to him. He can trade it in his upkeep, but the trigger is still on the stack and he loses. Thoughts? __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in KentuckyBlackborder.com Grading Guide
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coinmagic45 Member
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posted September 02, 2010 07:12 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Thank you sir. I may have messed up somewhere, but I'll be glad if I won this round so we don't have a bunch of other people playing Tidal Warrior decks for the next few weeks like we did w/ the Mind Swords decks when I played it 3 weeks ago 
Congrats! The meta is shifting so quickly that it's hard to keep up with :-P My last few decks would have crushed the previous weeks but don't do anything in the week I play them. For example, I go WW against the Mind Swords deck but only 1 person played it this week. And I also go WW against any Progenitus decks :-P So much for metagaming correctly! I am glad, though, that the Warrior is gone. Now hopefully we can get rid of all other cheap "turn this land into a basic land" cards and Mind Swords and the other one, and then the format can REALLY develop :-)
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junichi Moderator
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posted September 02, 2010 08:31 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by coinmagic45: You're right that my analysis is not correct, but I think it's still WW for me:Turn 1 Idol. I play Bog. He goes to 18 and plays Awakening Zone. I play Creeper. He goes to 16, makes a token, and trades Idol. I go to 18 and attack him to 13 and play Fiend. From here he gets a chump blocker and blocks Creeper, letting Fiend through. The score changes on my turn: 16-12, 14-11, 12-10, 10-9, 8-8, 6-7. On the turn my life goes to 4, I attack him down to 6 and sacrifice Fiend to trade Idol. On his upkeep, he gets a token, takes 2 damage (going to 4), and trades Idol back to me. This leaves him without a chump-blocker for Creeper, so I go to 2 and attack him to 1 and trade the Idol back to him. He can trade it in his upkeep, but the trigger is still on the stack and he loses. Thoughts?
He doesn't need to give you the idol right away. He can chump your creeper first, then switch control.This is how I see it: Turn 1 Him: City, Idol You: Bog Turn 2 Him: 18, Awakening Zone You: Creeper Turn 3 Him: 16, 1 Token. You: You cast Fiend, attack for 3. He chump with token, then sac it to idol. Turn 4 Him: 1 Token. You: 18, attack with both creatures. Creeper blocked, he takes 1 from Fiend, down to 15. Turn 5 Him: 1 Token. you: 16, attack with both creatures. Creeper blocked, he takes 1 from Fiend, down to 14. If this trend continues, I dont think you can win.
__________________ 40 Eye of Ugin and 4 foil Eye of Ugin for Black Lotus!?"lol you'll see when these go for 50 bucks a piece in a couple months, you're just jealous. !" - Marciano 315 03/17/2010
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted September 02, 2010 11:11 PM

quote: Originally posted by junichi: You: You cast Fiend, attack for 3. He chump with token, then sac it to idol.
I thought you can't sac a creature that's on it's way to the graveyard? It used to be that way, but things might have changed.. Thanks, Jazaray
__________________ A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick: There was a nice lassie named Jaz Many wished to have what she has, A delicate face, A soft warm embrace, And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom. Have dinner with Jaz
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted September 03, 2010 03:23 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Jazaray: I thought you can't sac a creature that's on it's way to the graveyard? It used to be that way, but things might have changed.. Thanks, Jazaray
Jaz, you still can sac a creature after it blocks, it just will not be able to deal combat damage to the creature it blocked. __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - Three Years Running for 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My Nationals) Cracking the Top 100 Ref Count - 4/1/10 (Currently #91)
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mattw Member
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posted September 03, 2010 05:29 AM
  
this might be for the rulings thread but if i declared the token as a blocker then sac'd it to the idol wouldn't i still take the damage from the attacking creature?
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 03, 2010 05:30 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by mattw: this might be for the rulings thread but if i declared the token as a blocker then sac'd it to the idol wouldn't i still take the damage from the attacking creature?
No, if it is a legal blocker you can sacrifice it before it gets dealt damage and take no damage yourself.
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Myy Member
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posted September 03, 2010 07:10 AM
  
Peeps, trust MAB, and WCFmo they know what they're talking about. they're correct
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wayne Member
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posted September 05, 2010 01:05 PM
  
## 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 TOTAL 04 WL XX WL XX WL LL WW DD WW WW WL LL XX 30 WCFmo: Of course, I'm the only one with a win against the winning deck. *wink wink
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Alexisonfyre Member
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posted September 05, 2010 02:30 PM

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I was out of town for the week, this is a quick score of my round, I'm still not sure if I go WW against MAB (as he wrote in his post). Doesn't matter anyway, great deck WCFMo!
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coinmagic45 Member
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posted September 05, 2010 06:41 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: [QUOTE]stuff
Yeah I think you're right. Editing my score now... __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in KentuckyBlackborder.com Grading Guide
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 06, 2010 07:12 PM
  
Results posted tomorrow?Also, thanks everyone...didn't expect to do this good 
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DerFisch Member
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posted September 07, 2010 06:21 AM
  
I hate you by the way, rogue elephant was going to be my deck next week. Forest Forest Rogue Rogue.
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