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Topic: Vanishing 4-Card Blind Tournament, Round 40
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 09, 2010 12:18 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by coinmagic45: I apologize. I even knew that and just wasn't thinking, sorry...Fixed, though :-)
Triple post ftw! Edit - I think you were just to excited about potentially winning this round 
[Edited 1 times, lastly by WCFmo on September 09, 2010]
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coinmagic45 Member
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posted September 09, 2010 01:24 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Triple post ftw!Edit - I think you were just to excited about potentially winning this round 
lol yup! I meant to double post, and I was okay with that since I was quoting two different people, but then I misclicked and had a very n00b-like triple :-P __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in KentuckyBlackborder.com Grading Guide
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DerFisch Member
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posted September 09, 2010 01:54 PM
  
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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL 01 X 0 0 0 2 6 0 0 3 0 14
Rough week... 3-13-2... WCFmo you can cast chamber on your opening turn on the draw agaisnt me, but it still isn't fast enough. Chalice at 1 doesn't stop me from casting rolling earthquake. Edit: On the stack, the CmC is 1+x.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by DerFisch on September 09, 2010]
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 09, 2010 02:15 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by DerFisch:
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Rough week... 3-13-2... WCFmo you can cast chamber on your opening turn on the draw agaisnt me, but it still isn't fast enough. Chalice at 1 doesn't stop me from casting rolling earthquake. Edit: On the stack, the CmC is 1+x.
Actually, the CMC of Rolling Earthquake is 1 as far as I know, the CMC doesn't change on the stack. Just like you can go grab Engineered Explosives/Chalice of the Void w/ Trinket mage, as their CMC = 0. Anyone else wanna chime in? But I still think I lose that 2nd game 
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yakusoku Member
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posted September 09, 2010 02:25 PM

The converted mana cost is 1 everywhere EXCEPT the stack.So, you can search for Chalice with Trinket Mage because in your deck, it has CMC = 0. You can return a Protean Hydra to the battlefield with Reveillark because in your graveyard, its CMC = 1. If someone plays Kozilek's Inquistion, they can make you discard Banefire because while it's in your hand, the CMC = 1. However, if you play Rolling Thunder for X = 4, Spell Snare can NOT be used to counter it, because while it is on the stack, the CMC = 6 (RR + X => 2 + 4 = 6).
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nderdog Moderator
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posted September 09, 2010 02:28 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: The converted mana cost is 1 everywhere EXCEPT the stack.
Exactly. quote: Originally posted by Magic Comprehensive Rules: 202.3b When calculating the converted mana cost of an object with an {X} in its mana cost, X is treated as 0 while the object is not on the stack, and X is treated as the number chosen for it while the object is on the stack.
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mattw Member
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posted September 09, 2010 05:52 PM
  
## 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 TOTAL 05 06 02 02 00 xx 06 02 00 04 00 22EDIT: i'll take your word for it WCFmo, you're a smarter player than I sir.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by mattw on September 10, 2010]
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DerFisch Member
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posted September 09, 2010 08:52 PM
  
WCFmo (not sure if you play legacy or not), it's how you can cast chalice of the void for x=1 or more even if there is a chalice already set at 0. It's sort of confusing, but the rulings they gave are correct. I just didn't go looking for the reason.
Still, as said before it doesn't race Omnath.
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 09, 2010 09:20 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by mattw: ## 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 TOTAL 05 06 02 02 00 xx 06 02 00 02 00 20I think DD against WCFmo cause i could just edict his slith before the chalice gets its second counter then i could never play a mosquito after that and it would just be a draw. I think..
IDK mattw, you go play land, I play whatever (Chalice can't be at 2 counters yet) and you play a 1/1 flyer...you then edict my guy after I play him and I lose...I think. quote: Originally posted by DerFisch: WCFmo (not sure if you play legacy or not), it's how you can cast chalice of the void for x=1 or more even if there is a chalice already set at 0. It's sort of confusing, but the rulings they gave are correct. I just didn't go looking for the reason.
Still, as said before it doesn't race Omnath.
Yeah, I was mistaken when it comes to the stack Nderdog should play if he's gonna quote the rules I was just trying to find a way to beat coinmagic...also, I think my score is off 2 points from nowhere - probably should be 38. I will post an official score Saturday/Sunday.
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coinmagic45 Member
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posted September 10, 2010 05:40 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: I was just trying to find a way to beat coinmagic
Come on, you know you can't stop me. You can only hope to contain me! ;-) __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in KentuckyBlackborder.com Grading Guide
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mattw Member
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posted September 10, 2010 05:55 AM
  
By the way, I apologize in advance for next weeks deck. Its gonna be a brutal one. lol
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Alexisonfyre Member
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posted September 10, 2010 06:59 AM

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL 03 6 3 X 6 2 6 0 3 3 06 35
Not enough... Hopefully we'll see some better Metamorphosis variants next week 
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coinmagic45 Member
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posted September 11, 2010 05:44 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Alexisonfyre:
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Not enough... Hopefully we'll see some better Metamorphosis variants next week 
Yup, already been thinking about decks :-) __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in KentuckyBlackborder.com Grading Guide
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WCFmo Member
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posted September 11, 2010 01:16 PM
  
1. DerFisch WL 3 3 Taiga Omnath Eladmri's Vineyard Rolling Earthquake2. yakusoku WW 6 9 Scrubland Phyrexian Walker Knight of Sursi Mind Swords 3. Alexisonfyre WL 3 12 Forest Skyshroud Cutter Metamorphosis Voidstone Gargoyle 4. MAB_Rapper WW 6 18 Swamp Innocent Blood Hollow Trees Mitotic Slime 5. mattw DL 1 19 Peat Bog Diabolic Edict Swamp Mosquito Swamp Mosquito 6. Jazaray WW 6 25 City of Traitors Pauper's Cage Blinkmoth Well Steel Golem 7. coinmagic45 DL 1 26 Peat Bog Mesmeric Fiend Diabolic Edict Blind Creeper 8. junichi WW 6 32 Mana Tithe Baneslayer Angel Icatian Store Plains 9. WCFmo XX X 32 Energy Chamber Arcbound Slith City of Traitors Chalice of the Void 10. Myy WW 6 38 Plains Pact of the Titan Pact of the Titan Angel's Grace code:
## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL 9 3 6 3 6 1 6 1 6 X 6 38
- someone needs to turn a coinmagic W into a L 
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted September 12, 2010 01:31 PM

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1. DerFisch - LL 2. yakusoku - LL 3. Alexisonfyre - LL 4. MAB_Rapper - LL 5. mattw - LL 6. Jazaray - XX 7. coinmagic45 - LL 8. junichi - LL 9. WCFmo - LL 10. Myy - LL Yeah. Yay.
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yakusoku Member
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posted September 13, 2010 08:51 AM

Final Scores:code:
01 X 0 0 0 2 6 0 0 3 00 14 02 6 X 3 0 2 6 0 0 0 06 23 03 6 3 X 6 2 6 0 3 3 06 35 04 6 6 0 X 6 6 0 6 0 01 31 05 6 2 2 0 x 6 2 0 4 00 22 06 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 07 6 6 6 6 2 6 X 2 4 03 41 <= winner! 08 6 6 3 0 6 6 2 X 0 00 29 09 3 6 3 6 1 6 1 6 X 6 38 10 6 0 0 6 6 6 6 6 0 Xx 36
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