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BlindFaithZero
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posted September 30, 2011 03:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for BlindFaithZero Click Here to Email BlindFaithZero Send a private message to BlindFaithZero Click to send BlindFaithZero an Instant MessageVisit BlindFaithZero's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hello, MOTL.

I was an active member here many years ago. About seven years ago, I stopped playing Magic. I tried to pick it up again about four-and-a-half years ago, but it just wasn't a good time, and I didn't have a great scene in which to play. But now. I still miss playing every now and then, and I am thinking about getting back into it.

However.

It's been so long since I've played competitively. I want to get back into T2, but I have no idea what the climate is like right now. Hell, I don't even know what the deal with Planeswalkers is.

I started playing in Tempest. I quit playing after Fifth Dawn was released. Needless to say, it's been some time since I was a serious competitor.


What I'm asking you, MOTL, is that you help me out. What's the deal these days? What do I need to know? I know that Innistrad just came out, right? What's up with T2? What, what, what? Ah!

Thanks!

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slurpee
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posted September 30, 2011 03:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for slurpee Click Here to Email slurpee Send a private message to slurpee Click to send slurpee an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View slurpee's Trade Auction or SaleView slurpee's Trade Auction or Sale
Just remember there will always be dbags no matter where you play.
 
farsk8dutch
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You started at a good time. The first set of a block just came out and you should be able to find some release events going on. Read some tournament reports, maybe some spoiler lists, and if you like competitive play Friday Night Magic can be fun. If you like drafting I'd buy a pack of sleeves to cover up the new flip cards. Familiarize yourself, have fun!
 
Vegas10
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drafting is a great way to learn all the cards and the little strategyh in's and outs you may have forgotten, plus damage no longer stacks. After you have been abused a few times by good players you will catch back on quick like riding a bike, then if you want to get seriously competitve keep an eye on the scg 5k's top 16 decklists, proxie em up till you find one you like that acquire the cards for it, and tweak it from there for a while till you get your trade stock back up so you can get more decks if you like, or always sell that one after you are done with it, and use that money towards a new one.
 
Mr. Ruboonia
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posted September 30, 2011 06:03 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Ruboonia Click Here to Email Mr. Ruboonia Send a private message to Mr. Ruboonia Click to send Mr. Ruboonia an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want ListView Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want List
Hey, I remember you from the old-school early 2000s days. I too quit in '04 or so and have recently picked it up again (though haven't actually "played" much due to time constraints and such). I play vintage exclusively--from that perspective, the game is as good as ever, though the vintage tournament numbers have been low. Legacy is also a very popular format that I am interested in perhaps exploring more.

Planeswalkers are kind of like players (remember, YOU are a planeswalker). They come into play with loyalty counters equal to the number on the bottom right. Every time they are dealt damage, they lose loyalty counters. Creatures can attack them. They can use abilities once each turn at sorcery speed. Their abilities either add or subtract these counters. Jace, the Mind Sculptor is one of the most broken cards ever printed--I picked up four of them as soon as I started playing again.

 
dfitzg88
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posted September 30, 2011 06:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for dfitzg88 Click Here to Email dfitzg88 Send a private message to dfitzg88 Click to send dfitzg88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View dfitzg88's Trade Auction or SaleView dfitzg88's Trade Auction or Sale
Even Standard is expensive to play.
Planeswalkers are easy to figure out.
It's easy to browse Top decklists and read strategy articles, and you can even look at Magic Online daily top 8 decklists nowadays on DailyMTG.
Channelfireball has a lot of limited (draft) and standard gauntlet videos, which may help you pick up where you left off.
We just got a new ban/restricted list, and standard just rotated today, so it's a fresh field in every format, and you can start wherever you want without feeling behind.
 
Swift2210
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posted October 01, 2011 12:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Swift2210 Click Here to Email Swift2210 Send a private message to Swift2210 Click to send Swift2210 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Swift2210's Have/Want ListView Swift2210's Have/Want List
Just play social EDH!
 
Goaswerfraiejen
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Magic 2010 (11th ed.) brought significant rules changes. Most importantly, damage no longer stacks.


Welcome back!

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iccarus
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quote:
Originally posted by Swift2210:
Just play social EDH!

QFT

Although I do still follow other formats and sometimes play standard. But 90% of my magic playing in a given year is EDH.

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BlindFaithZero
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posted October 01, 2011 09:24 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for BlindFaithZero Click Here to Email BlindFaithZero Send a private message to BlindFaithZero Click to send BlindFaithZero an Instant MessageVisit BlindFaithZero's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Magic 2010 (11th ed.) brought significant rules changes. Most importantly, damage no longer stacks.


Welcome back!


Okay, wait. Damage no longer stacks. So essentially if a creature has a "sac to deal two" ability, I can't block, deal damage and then sacrifice? I can only do one or the other? Oh.

Thanks for everyone's input so far. I'm mainly interested in playing standard.

Also, I'm looking on tcgplayer at decks. I've also been a fan of control, so I'm thinking about going with the UB control. If I choose to do this, is this something that is in danger of rotating out/becoming obsolete soon?

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Bagbokk
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quote:
Okay, wait. Damage no longer stacks. So essentially if a creature has a "sac to deal two" ability, I can't block, deal damage and then sacrifice? I can only do one or the other? Oh.

Correct. Mogg Fanatic is useless.

I haven't played in years myself (like 6+ years), but I found that being around a community that does play, and just basically reading up about it works wonders. At some point you do need to just dive in and play, but I would do a significant amount of reading, and probably going to your LGS once or twice to observe (without being annoying) first.

Get acquainted with the sets in Standard since that's what you're interested in playing. I personally don't know what sets are rotating so I'll refrain from commenting on that, but that is something you should definitely know or find out, as well as the cards in each deck that are, etc.

 
iccarus
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quote:
Originally posted by BlindFaithZero:
Also, I'm looking on tcgplayer at decks. I've also been a fan of control, so I'm thinking about going with the UB control. If I choose to do this, is this something that is in danger of rotating out/becoming obsolete soon?

Nothing rotates from standard for another year now. So as long as the lists you're looking at are standard with Innistrad, you should be good.

Unless you just want to get playing ASAP or plan to play in States (10-15), I'd suggest waiting a couple weeks to start buying up cards for a deck. There's nothing worse than going all in on a deck idea for a new format and then discovering there's something better out there you want to play.

There's a SCG open tournament today. Those usually offer some data on what the new T2 will look like.

There's also the states events later this month, which will help define the metagame better as well.

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dfitzg88
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quote:
Originally posted by BlindFaithZero:
Okay, wait. Damage no longer stacks. So essentially if a creature has a "sac to deal two" ability, I can't block, deal damage and then sacrifice? I can only do one or the other? Oh.

Thanks for everyone's input so far. I'm mainly interested in playing standard.

Also, I'm looking on tcgplayer at decks. I've also been a fan of control, so I'm thinking about going with the UB control. If I choose to do this, is this something that is in danger of rotating out/becoming obsolete soon?


Standard legal sets:

Scars of Mirrodin
Mirrodin Besieged
New Phyrexia
M12
Innistrad

currently the UB deck loses Creeping Tar Pit, Inquisition of Kozilek, Consume the Meek, Jace Beleren, Preordain, and a few not so important cards like Vampire Nighthawk.

The core of the UB Control deck is 1-for-1 removal into planeswalkers into fat creatures. Fortunately for UB players, Creeping Tar Pit provided for free swings so that a Grave Titan or Wurmcoil Engine could just end the game. It is now gone however. Inquisition of Kozilek was also an amazing start, but now it AND Duress are both gone, so we're stuck with Despise, which is fairly bad.

 

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