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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Every set has a couple cards that are a bit too strong. The mere fact that devouring greed is in the set doesn't mean it's a terrible set.

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No, the fact that COK is a terrible set with a broken "whoops" auto-win common factor makes it a terrible set.

You know...or you could just open/get passed multiples of Glacial Ray, bc that's fair too.....

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Originally posted by daner:
No, the fact that COK is a terrible set with a broken "whoops" auto-win common factor makes it a terrible set.

You know...or you could just open/get passed multiples of Glacial Ray, bc that's fair too.....

EDIT: The most skill intensive common(and one of the best commons) in COK is argualbly Scuttling Death, and with the new rules this card is also not nearly as powerful. I recently did a 3xCOK block draft and to be honest...I wanted to blow my brains out. You might have a different view of this set bc you haven't drafted it in awhile, but I have...I use to think the format was ok, fine, whatever...but after recently playing it I'll never make that mistake again.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
How is having a strong common that requires you to have 3+ creatures of a specific creature type in play alone make a format suck? Look at any recent set after Future Sight and you'll see sick "I win right now" hyperbombs. If you drop wurmcoil in Scars draft you basically won. if you drop a titan in m11/m12 you basically win. And before you say "LOL BUT THATS A COMMON!" There's tons of such sick bombs in recent sets. They toned it down in Innistrad, but it's back in Avacyn. If you don't want to play formats where somebody "just wins" due to a single card, then play low-power cube or t2 or something.

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The reason why it's so bad in COK was bc that the format was miserably slow, yet any black deck could just cold **** you out in a few turns. Play a few creatures...attack a few times....then sit on a common until you hit critical mass. Yea, SOM and M11/12 are bad...but they are bad for different reasons. You're talking about dropping a mythic.....I was more worried about someone with a single infect creature and Untamed Fireball(Might). Or for M11/12 drafts....yea, you can open a Titan, which is possible but you can also just open Mind Control, which happens EVERY DRAFT!

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Originally posted by daner:
The reason why it's so bad in COK was bc that the format was miserably slow, yet any black deck could just cold **** you out in a few turns. Play a few creatures...attack a few times....then sit on a common until you hit critical mass. Yea, SOM and M11/12 are bad...but they are bad for different reasons. You're talking about dropping a mythic.....I was more worried about someone with a single infect creature and Untamed Fireball(Might). Or for M11/12 drafts....yea, you can open a Titan, which is possible but you can also just open Mind Control, which happens EVERY DRAFT!

You act like COK was so good...but the reason you just game me for other bad draftin gsets also applies to your COK block, where at any time you could just open a Dragon that normally won the game and was somehow worse for your opponent when they killed it.

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I liked COK. CCB was decent. CBS was sub-par. I think a lot of us went back to doing Mirrodin drafts after Saviors came out, and the stores, who couldn't sell the junk, tried to keep pushing triple-SSS drafts on us.

CCC is a nice aggro format. I'm not sure why you think it was miserably slow. After Saviors it got slower and crappier because saviours basically added nothing except walls and creatures that require you have 7 cards in hand to be good.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
I liked COK. CCB was decent. CBS was sub-par. I think a lot of us went back to doing Mirrodin drafts after Saviors came out, and the stores, who couldn't sell the junk, tried to keep pushing triple-SSS drafts on us.

CCC is a nice aggro format. I'm not sure why you think it was miserably slow. After Saviors it got slower and crappier because saviours basically added nothing except walls and creatures that require you have 7 cards in hand to be good.

That's why I said Triple-Kamigawa was good.

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It was miserably slow bc most of the creatures were overcosted for minimal effect. It was the random spells that you could string together that made your deck. Like multiples of Kodama's Might, Glacial Ray or Devouring Greed/Rage. On occasion you'd have dumb things like Dance of Shadows or Strength of Cedars fall into you lap. Also just tons of 6 drops rares that ended the game. Most of the time the guy with mutiple Kabuto Moth sat and stared at you...until you hit crit mass with one of the Devouring cards or one of the busted uncommons/rares.

It's one of my least favorite draft formats of all time.

Then there was the Dampen Thought.dec.....yea, no thanks.

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Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
I remember when MOTL didn't have several posts of people bickering over NOTHING IMPORTANT BESIDES THEIR OPINION!. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion. No, we all don't care to read your quote-unquote paraphrasing garbage.

In other news, I really liked scourge for drafting. That was a great time. I would also second Saga if you got the cash, or unhinged for lots of laughs. I also enjoyed zendikar for drafting.

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Unhinged only with the right crowd.

Saga is okay. Destiny kinda sucks and black is hugely overpowered. It's actually, though, more balanced than a lot of more recent sets like Scars.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Triple Kamigawa is far superior to the garbage that is betrayers and saviours.
Onslaught is also good.

People recommending Saga and Rath forget how absurdly expensive those sets are.

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Onslaught was fine to draft, but it's successors sucked behind. Legions specifically. God I hated Legions. Even more than Unglued/Unhinged.

He asked what the best block to draft is, not the cheapest .

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Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
I remember when MOTL didn't have several posts of people bickering over NOTHING IMPORTANT BESIDES THEIR OPINION!. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion. No, we all don't care to read your quote-unquote paraphrasing garbage.

In other news, I really liked scourge for drafting. That was a great time. I would also second Saga if you got the cash, or unhinged for lots of laughs. I also enjoyed zendikar for drafting.

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I remember when people on the internet weren't hypocrites.....oh wai

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:

He asked what the best block to draft is, not the cheapest .

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Isn't that still Homelands? I mean you have to open 2 packs and shuffle them together but it's still cheap.

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Originally posted by daner:
I remember when people on the internet weren't hypocrites.....oh wai

Isn't that still Homelands? I mean you have to open 2 packs and shuffle them together but it's still cheap.

Somehow Legions and Scourge are still rather expensive to draft. (in comparasion) Think boxes of each run like $110+.....and you get? Honestly, I'm drawing a blank what can you open?

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Homelands rules! It gave us AEther Storm :P!

Honestly, you should try it once. Oddest draft ever. Or Fallen Empires.

Legions gave us Phage, Akroma, Goblin Goon (those were in my prerelease packs, good luck making something with those).
Scourge was better card-wise as it gave us Ambush Commander, Call to the Grave, the Decree cycle, Eternal Dragon, Forgotten Ancient (make the card!), Mind's Desire, Siege-Gang Commander, Stifle and Sulfuric Vortex, but the damage was done by Legions already. The commons and uncommons were crap.

btw, I hated Shadowmoor and Eventide, too. How are you supposed to pick up any signals with all that hybrid crap? Drafts went all over the place.

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Homelands rules! It gave us AEther Storm :P!

Honestly, you should try it once. Oddest draft ever. Or Fallen Empires.

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:P should have guessed.....