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JoshSherman
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posted July 05, 2013 03:00 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JoshSherman Click Here to Email JoshSherman Send a private message to JoshSherman Click to send JoshSherman an Instant MessageVisit JoshSherman's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View JoshSherman's Have/Want ListView JoshSherman's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Hooskdaddy:
I didn't know where really to put it.

That's what she said.

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98ViperGTS
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posted July 05, 2013 03:34 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for 98ViperGTS Click Here to Email 98ViperGTS Send a private message to 98ViperGTS Click to send 98ViperGTS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View 98ViperGTS's Have/Want ListView 98ViperGTS's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Hooskdaddy:
I'm not trying to make people think anything. You guys are the ones trying to make people think I'm this evil person. I don't really care one way or the other at this point. You don't know me, don't have a clue who am really am, and honestly with the closed mindedness, never will. That's your prerogative.

And BTW, you would lose that bet. I got quite a few "hang in there" and "those guys are douches" type of comments when all this stuff went down. And I thank and respect those people for their comments.


Don't worry dude. Apparently this place has become worse than salvation, or day care, in the year that I've been away.

 
Tha Gunslinga
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posted July 05, 2013 04:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tha Gunslinga Click Here to Email Tha Gunslinga Send a private message to Tha Gunslinga Click to send Tha Gunslinga an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or SaleView Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
Don't worry dude. Apparently this place has become worse than salvation, or day care, in the year that I've been away.

Have BEEN to Salvation? Because I can assure you that it is substantially worse.

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posted July 05, 2013 08:59 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.C Click Here to Email Mr.C Send a private message to Mr.C Click to send Mr.C an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr.C's Have/Want ListView Mr.C's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
Don't worry dude. Apparently this place has become worse than salvation, or day care, in the year that I've been away.

Dude, you really haven't been around much, haven't you?

Edit: It's also kind of amusing how much that BTA case is costing Hooksdaddy. If he had just eaten the cost of those Volcanic Islands, people would now be remembering him as a stand-up guy, and he'd probably get bites on his proposal.

Funny how things go.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mr.C on July 05, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Dude, you really haven't been around much, haven't you?

Edit: It's also kind of amusing how much that BTA case is costing Hooksdaddy. If he had just eaten the cost of those Volcanic Islands, people would now be remembering him as a stand-up guy, and he'd probably get bites on his proposal.

Funny how things go.



No, because some of us have had to deal with in real life and know that it is more of the same

 
Vegas10
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posted July 05, 2013 09:52 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Vegas10 Click Here to Email Vegas10 Send a private message to Vegas10 Click to send Vegas10 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Vegas10's Have/Want ListView Vegas10's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Have BEEN to Salvation? Because I can assure you that it is substantially worse.

Whie I do use it some +1 to slinga's comment MOTl is much much better

 
Vegas10
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Dude, you really haven't been around much, haven't you?

Edit: It's also kind of amusing how much that BTA case is costing Hooksdaddy. If he had just eaten the cost of those Volcanic Islands, people would now be remembering him as a stand-up guy, and he'd probably get bites on his proposal.

Funny how things go.


Well considering his proposal is about the same as the ones I get in my spam from some prince in Africa just wanting to give me Millions of dollars for using my bank account it's no wonder he is not being taking seriously, plus yeah after that I wouldn't deal with him no matter what based on principle.

 
Hooskdaddy
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posted July 06, 2013 04:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Hooskdaddy Click Here to Email Hooskdaddy Send a private message to Hooskdaddy Click to send Hooskdaddy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by stu55:

No, because some of us have had to deal with in real life and know that it is more of the same

Stu


Are u referring to dealing with me in real life because I don't remember ever doing that. Yes we had a deal together long ago as you are one of my refs. Please refresh my memory.


What I think astonishes me the most is someone can do an almost $7000 sale here. And several $1000+ deals, have 100+ feedback but if one thing goes wrong, you're ready to crucify him/her. I believe they're called lynch mobs.
In that BTA case you all worked under(and still work under) the assumption that I had received the package and was stealing from ryusei even though the DC showed it as delivered is why u think I should've given all 4 volcanics. When in fact the package never did get to me. So I did what I thought and still think was Right. I offered half because both parties were at fault. I could've gotten my mail held. Ryusei could've gotten signature/insurance on a $250+ deal.
But I guess if you don't have a mob mentality you don't belong here.

 
Thanos
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I guess this one doesn't count against you either:

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005288.html

 
evilempire22
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quote:
Originally posted by Hooskdaddy:


What I think astonishes me the most is someone can do an almost $7000 sale here. And several $1000+ deals, have 100+ feedback but if one thing goes wrong, you're ready to crucify him/her.


It only takes one action (or in your case more, thanks to the reminder post from Thanos) to spoil your reputation with the rest of the community.

You really should just delete this thread to save yourself more pain. Unless you want to be continually harassed and your name dragged through the mud even more. Then by all means, keep it open for all new and returning members to see who not to trust in a trade.

--Evil

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rats60
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quote:
Originally posted by Hooskdaddy:
Stu


Are u referring to dealing with me in real life because I don't remember ever doing that. Yes we had a deal together long ago as you are one of my refs. Please refresh my memory.


What I think astonishes me the most is someone can do an almost $7000 sale here. And several $1000+ deals, have 100+ feedback but if one thing goes wrong, you're ready to crucify him/her. I believe they're called lynch mobs.
In that BTA case you all worked under(and still work under) the assumption that I had received the package and was stealing from ryusei even though the DC showed it as delivered is why u think I should've given all 4 volcanics. When in fact the package never did get to me. So I did what I thought and still think was Right. I offered half because both parties were at fault. I could've gotten my mail held. Ryusei could've gotten signature/insurance on a $250+ deal.
But I guess if you don't have a mob mentality you don't belong here.


I don't hold that case against you, unlike many on here. However, the link Thanos posted, where you blatantly lied about the conditions of cards and wouldn't make it right until being BTA'd and forced to by mods, makes me doubt you. Now you are asking someone to trust you, when there's a big black mark on your public record, and you are wondering why MOTL doesn't?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
I guess this one doesn't count against you either:

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005288.html


This...this all day. I don't care about the volcanic one and I don't think a lot of people do...However, you were clearly at 100% fault here. This is what sticks out in my mind and I'm sure many others.

 
Hooskdaddy
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posted July 06, 2013 11:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Hooskdaddy Click Here to Email Hooskdaddy Send a private message to Hooskdaddy Click to send Hooskdaddy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
You're right. Motl is no longer the place that it once was. Its gone downhill drastically over the past few years.
In baldr and my case I actually got 15-20 people sending me messages about what a prick he had been during their trades and one person saying that they had suspected him of switching out cards for lesser conditioned ones and then complaining. I had originally suspected him of the same thing because I know what some of my cards looked like but didn't take pics beforehand so I could never prove anything....so I got stuck. But I argued price point as baldr was attempting to extort something like $400 from me for cards. Then jaz got involved, asked for opinions on conditions and came up with that I owed $75(if memory serves correctly). I retorted and told jaz that it should actually be $100? Because you had to take into consideration that it was a collection as a whole and not individual cards.
So why would I cost myself more money?? Why would I split the loss with  ryusei? Could it be because its the right thing to do...the fair thing?

So whatever you guys wanna think you're gonna think but you're flat out wrong.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Hooskdaddy on July 06, 2013]

 
thror
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quote:
Originally posted by Hooskdaddy:
You're right. Motl is no longer the place that it once was. Its gone downhill drastically over the past few years.
In baldr and my case I actually got 15-20 people sending me messages about what a prick he had been during their trades and one person saying that they had suspected him of switching out cards for lesser conditioned ones and then complaining. I had originally suspected him of the same thing because I know what some of my cards looked like but didn't take pics beforehand so I could never prove anything....so I got stuck. But I argued price point as baldr was attempting to extort something like $400 from me for cards. Then jaz got involved, asked for opinions on conditions and came up with that I owed $75(if memory serves correctly). I retorted and told jaz that it should actually be $100? Because you had to take into consideration that it was a collection as a whole and not individual cards.
So why would I cost myself more money?? Why would I split the loss with  ryusei? Could it be because its the right thing to do...the fair thing?

So whatever you guys wanna think you're gonna think but you're flat out wrong.


im quoting your entire post, just to keep it on record.
You accuse baldr of swapping worse condition cards into a collection? You've got balls. No brains though. I've not seen anyone defend you, even with your claims. surprising none of them have posted here to say what a standup guy you are. and as to
"why would I cost myself more money?? Why would I split the loss with ryusei?" it happens all the time. It's called a settlement. makes the problem go away before it costs you more $ and more bad press.

you're digging yourself a very nice hole. the 'delete the thread' advice looks like something you might want to consider.

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JesusChristMD
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Thror in your desire to jump on Hoosk you missed what he was actually saying.

Maybe go back and read the post because he actually did those things.


I have no skin in the game but at least take the time to read what you are quoting.

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Hooskdaddy
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posted July 06, 2013 02:17 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Hooskdaddy Click Here to Email Hooskdaddy Send a private message to Hooskdaddy Click to send Hooskdaddy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Thror in your desire to jump on Hoosk you missed what he was actually saying.

Maybe go back and read the post because he actually did those things.


I have no skin in the game but at least take the time to read what you are quoting.



Its all good JCMD. Most people here wanna think they have a clue. Never wanna give anyone the benefit of the doubt. No worries. I'll never get a fair shake on this site no matter how much I try so no reason to keep trying. Ultimately it will work out for the best. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger

 
JoshSherman
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If you would shut up about it and stop replying to people you think are antagonizing you, they'd stop. They're antagonizing you because you respond.

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JesusChristMD
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
If you would shut up about it and stop replying to people you think are antagonizing you, they'd stop. They're antagonizing you because you respond.


I can attest this is not true.

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Thanos
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
If you would leave this site , they'd stop. They're antagonizing you because you continue to frequent here.


Fixed.

 
Hooskdaddy
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quote:
Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
I can attest this is not true.


True JCMD. I don't think these guys or even the mods, as I've spoke to jaz about this at length, understand how much they harass me. I can post just a random comment about an off topic or a sales thread and someone always brings up the case, or makes a snide comment directed at me. If you don't believe me...look how much this topic derailed. Its not me bringing it up, but I'm constantly in a position of having to defend myself over it. So if you want it to go away...then stop directing comments towards me about it. Because if you do...I'm gonna defend myself.

 
Jazaray
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Alright people, that is ENOUGH! Everyone is welcome to use this site until they are banned from it. Hoosk has been using this site practically since it was created and he has what, two cases that (some of) you consider to be questionable? That's your right. Your opinions are your own and you are entitled to them. So... don't trade with him. Ignore him. Pretend his posts don't exist. There's no reason to make him feel like he's not welcome here! He's just as welcome here any anyone else is.

I will be closing this now, as it's gone WAAAAY off topic now.

Hoosk, I have to say this. You ARE the reason it went off topic like this in the first place. YOU caused this downhill slide. There was NO reason to post what you did, and it honestly seems to me that you posted it in order to cause this!! You sat there and pretty much begged people to post here to defame you by insulting them all.

Even in your "apology" about not being clear on your intentions here, you blamed it on everyone not having enough common sense! And "everyone" in that case, included me, as you posted that AFTER I told you that, to me, it seemed as though you just wanted someone to buy it, sight/knowledge unseen, and trust you that it was worth it. And that I thought that might be a part of the problem to those who posted.

quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Hoosk posts vaguely about a deal that requires 3-4k investment.

Multiple members point out that such vagueness isn't exactly the best way to go about this, given his BTA history.

Hoosk blames bad responses as the reason for his vague first post (is hoosk psychic?), completes cyclical argument.

Wheeeeeeee!


Zeckk's post here was EXACTLY what happened. Except he missed the part where you blame everyone else for not understanding your vague post.

Instead of jumping to the conclusion that everyone who posted about this not being a good deal because of how vague you were being was harassing you, couldn't you have given them the benefit of the doubt (as you ask for yourself) and clarified what your intentions actually were? Instead of insulting everyone, why not just say "Oh crap, I guess I forgot to add that I will email an entire list of the cards involved to whomever is interested. Sorry for the confusion." ???

As I told you via PM, I have always liked you, but this time I think you went a bit too far. I wish you luck on getting/selling/whatever this collection.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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