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Topic: Holy Balls Magic Prices!!!
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted June 19, 2014 08:43 AM

quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: This is why i blame Dan Bockhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153788552885604&set=gm.64301501240309 2&type=1&theater
You guys realize that Dan Bock did not take that picture, right? __________________ Tower Magic FacebookTop 20 in MOTL Refs My 2008 Nationals hilikuS: Also, as much as MAB's list has become the list on the T/A Forum, I do miss Slinga's.
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The WORST ever Member
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posted June 22, 2014 08:17 PM

that pic doesnt work for me.anyway, what exactly is dan bock's "business plan"? __________________ "Am I the one you think I am, or just the one you didn't expect?" we miss you man.i heart pyr0 Because having a logout button in your signature is the cool thing to do now
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oneofchaos Member
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posted June 22, 2014 10:54 PM

quote: Originally posted by The WORST ever: that pic doesnt work for me.anyway, what exactly is dan bock's "business plan"?
Own power so you can't.
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oldschool Member
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posted June 23, 2014 08:30 AM

ridiculous. How would that benefit him at all?
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iccarus Member
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posted June 23, 2014 08:33 AM

quote: Originally posted by oldschool: ridiculous. How would that benefit him at all?
Because when he goes to sell a piece later on it's worth a ton more. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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oldschool Member
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posted June 23, 2014 08:56 AM

quote: Originally posted by iccarus: Because when he goes to sell a piece later on it's worth a ton more.
What kind of business plan is that? He's not going to be making a living by buying up lotuses and sitting on them then selling one lotus/year for an extra few hundred dollars. He buys and sells. People accuse him of hoarding but you don't run a business by hoarding your merchandise.
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Tha Gunslinga Moderator
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posted June 23, 2014 09:10 AM
  
He's just doing it for the fun of it. I doubt Dan Bock is concerned about cash-flow.
__________________ Selling all my cards. Want anything?
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iccarus Member
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posted June 23, 2014 01:49 PM

quote: Originally posted by oldschool: What kind of business plan is that? He's not going to be making a living by buying up lotuses and sitting on them then selling one lotus/year for an extra few hundred dollars. He buys and sells. People accuse him of hoarding but you don't run a business by hoarding your merchandise.
Power is probably the cheaper end of Dan's overall inventory values. Not only does he run his online enterprise, but he also stocks three stores in the Madison area with inventories that are probably in the six figure range. Ben's explanation is probably more on the nose. I think Dan just has fun driving people crazy. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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paragondave Member
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posted June 23, 2014 07:24 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by iccarus: I think Dan just has fun driving people crazy.
short drive
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DanBock New Member
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posted April 08, 2015 11:41 AM

quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: You guys realize that Dan Bock did not take that picture, right?
I absolutely did take that picture. Out of curiosity, why did you think I didn't take that picture? The Lotuses from that picture were some of the ones I had at that time. you can see some of them have the inventory numbers on them from their ebay listings.
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Animosity Member
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posted April 08, 2015 03:16 PM

quote: Originally posted by DanBock: I absolutely did take that picture. Out of curiosity, why did you think I didn't take that picture?The Lotuses from that picture were some of the ones I had at that time. you can see some of them have the inventory numbers on them from their ebay listings.
He didn't think your megapixels were high end enough.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 09, 2015 12:22 AM

quote: Originally posted by DanBock: I absolutely did take that picture. Out of curiosity, why did you think I didn't take that picture?The Lotuses from that picture were some of the ones I had at that time. you can see some of them have the inventory numbers on them from their ebay listings.
I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?
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paragondave Member
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posted April 09, 2015 04:23 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?
hang on, let me get my popcorn!
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Balian Baron of Ibelan Member
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posted April 09, 2015 04:37 AM
  
Yep, one of my "won" auctions was too. Not only that Dan, but you have "or best offer" on every single item you sell on EBay. I have submitted offers for. 01 less than the price and you've declined it. I'm half tempted to buy just to leave negative feedback for both reasons. I know his prices are way higher than anyone else on the Bay, and CS sucks....why would I spend more than the cheapest, NM buy it now???I wouldn't: -) ...short 2 he drive to Madison, maybe I'll come visit...
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Balian Baron of Ibelan on April 09, 2015]
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wjuseck Member
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posted April 10, 2015 07:11 AM

In an operation as big as Dan's disappointments are inevitable.If any genius programmers out there can stock balance between TCG, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms those disappointments won't be inevitable anymore.
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bigballashotcaller Member
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posted April 10, 2015 08:26 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?
You can't defend the indefensible. See his lame attempts on Reddit to explain away the same thing, which keeps happening over, and over, and over again. quote: Originally posted by wjuseck: In an operation as big as Dan's disappointments are inevitable. If any genius programmers out there can stock balance between TCG, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms those disappointments won't be inevitable anymore.
This has nothing to do with it, and if you believe any explanation based on that you're quite easily fooled. Crystal Commerce has hiccups but manages inventory across platforms fine enough. The issue is when cards get bought up and he just refuses to send out so he can make more money by relisting them at a higher price later. Honorable sellers would make an effort to contact customers and fulfill what they can, which he doesn't do.
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wjuseck Member
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posted April 10, 2015 10:39 AM

I don't believe that Dan needs to jeopardize his reputation to get by as a businessperson. We'll agree to disagree on that if you feel otherwise.
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Markers Member
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posted April 10, 2015 10:52 AM

what's the reddit discussion? Any links available? I searched and found nothing...__________________ Collecting signed cards. PM me...Total signed cards: >38'000 Visit Markers'World
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LandDestroyer Member
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posted April 10, 2015 10:59 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Markers: what's the reddit discussion? Any links available? I searched and found nothing...
well i'd guess this is his reddit account if you want to look through history, which i haven't yet http://www.reddit.com/user/DanBock __________________
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Markers Member
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posted April 10, 2015 11:09 AM

quote: Originally posted by LandDestroyer: well i'd guess this is his reddit account if you want to look through history, which i haven't yethttp://www.reddit.com/user/DanBock
Thanks! __________________ Collecting signed cards. PM me...Total signed cards: >38'000 Visit Markers'World
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DanBock New Member
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posted April 11, 2015 02:19 PM

quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?
For every negative feedback from us being out of stock on an item after the price went up, I can link you to 20 POSITIVE feedbacks for the same card at the pre-spike price. When a card spikes, we sell infi of them. The more you ship, the more you lose randomly. Our 99.9% feedback with 7000-9000 a month speaks for itself.
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DanBock New Member
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posted April 11, 2015 02:23 PM

quote: Originally posted by bigballashotcaller: [B][QUOTE]Originally posted by oneofchaos: I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?
You can't defend the indefensible. See his lame attempts on Reddit to explain away the same thing, which keeps happening over, and over, and over again. [/QUOTE]Thank you! I like that you are on the forums too!
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 13, 2015 02:37 PM

quote: Originally posted by DanBock: For every negative feedback from us being out of stock on an item after the price went up, I can link you to 20 POSITIVE feedbacks for the same card at the pre-spike price.When a card spikes, we sell infi of them. The more you ship, the more you lose randomly. Our 99.9% feedback with 7000-9000 a month speaks for itself.
Using your positive feedback to attempt to justify your negative feedback does nothing. I figured your response would look like "LOOK AT MY FEEDBACK" so in reality if there was any doubt it was you initially, you just confirmed it for me, thanks! quote: Originally posted by wjuseck: In an operation as big as Dan's disappointments are inevitable.If any genius programmers out there can stock balance between TCG, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms those disappointments won't be inevitable anymore.
Because those "genius" programmers would rather work at Amazon or eBay and make the guaranteed money.
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 13, 2015 04:12 PM

quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Because those "genius" programmers would rather work at Amazon or eBay and make the guaranteed money.
The 'genius' way to avoid over-selling on multiple platforms is to not list the same item for sale on multiple platforms. Sellers who use this excuse have to know there is risk and have to accept the negative feedback they get because of it.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 13, 2015 08:49 PM

quote: Originally posted by Pail42: The 'genius' way to avoid over-selling on multiple platforms is to not list the same item for sale on multiple platforms.Sellers who use this excuse have to know there is risk and have to accept the negative feedback they get because of it.
Well there is of course that which is the simple and reasonable conclusion, but thinking some magic programmer is going to fix all your problems is silly because he would made oodles more money fixing somebody else's problems.
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