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MAB_Rapper
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posted June 19, 2014 08:43 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MAB_Rapper Click Here to Email MAB_Rapper Click to send MAB_Rapper an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
This is why i blame Dan Bock

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153788552885604&set=gm.64301501240309 2&type=1&theater


You guys realize that Dan Bock did not take that picture, right?

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posted June 22, 2014 08:17 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for The WORST ever Click Here to Email The WORST ever Send a private message to The WORST ever Click to send The WORST ever an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
that pic doesnt work for me.

anyway, what exactly is dan bock's "business plan"?

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posted June 22, 2014 10:54 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by The WORST ever:
that pic doesnt work for me.

anyway, what exactly is dan bock's "business plan"?


Own power so you can't.

 
oldschool
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posted June 23, 2014 08:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for oldschool Click Here to Email oldschool Send a private message to oldschool Click to send oldschool an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
ridiculous. How would that benefit him at all?
 
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posted June 23, 2014 08:33 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for iccarus Click Here to Email iccarus Send a private message to iccarus Click to send iccarus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oldschool:
ridiculous. How would that benefit him at all?

Because when he goes to sell a piece later on it's worth a ton more.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
Because when he goes to sell a piece later on it's worth a ton more.


What kind of business plan is that? He's not going to be making a living by buying up lotuses and sitting on them then selling one lotus/year for an extra few hundred dollars. He buys and sells. People accuse him of hoarding but you don't run a business by hoarding your merchandise.

 
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He's just doing it for the fun of it. I doubt Dan Bock is concerned about cash-flow.

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posted June 23, 2014 01:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for iccarus Click Here to Email iccarus Send a private message to iccarus Click to send iccarus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oldschool:
What kind of business plan is that? He's not going to be making a living by buying up lotuses and sitting on them then selling one lotus/year for an extra few hundred dollars. He buys and sells. People accuse him of hoarding but you don't run a business by hoarding your merchandise.

Power is probably the cheaper end of Dan's overall inventory values. Not only does he run his online enterprise, but he also stocks three stores in the Madison area with inventories that are probably in the six figure range.

Ben's explanation is probably more on the nose. I think Dan just has fun driving people crazy.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
I think Dan just has fun driving people crazy.


short drive

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
You guys realize that Dan Bock did not take that picture, right?


I absolutely did take that picture. Out of curiosity, why did you think I didn't take that picture?

The Lotuses from that picture were some of the ones I had at that time. you can see some of them have the inventory numbers on them from their ebay listings.

 
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posted April 08, 2015 03:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Animosity Click Here to Email Animosity Send a private message to Animosity Click to send Animosity an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DanBock:
I absolutely did take that picture. Out of curiosity, why did you think I didn't take that picture?

The Lotuses from that picture were some of the ones I had at that time. you can see some of them have the inventory numbers on them from their ebay listings.


He didn't think your megapixels were high end enough.

 
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posted April 09, 2015 12:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DanBock:
I absolutely did take that picture. Out of curiosity, why did you think I didn't take that picture?

The Lotuses from that picture were some of the ones I had at that time. you can see some of them have the inventory numbers on them from their ebay listings.


I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?

 
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posted April 09, 2015 04:23 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for paragondave Click Here to Email paragondave Send a private message to paragondave Click to send paragondave an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View paragondave's Have/Want ListView paragondave's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?

hang on, let me get my popcorn!

 
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Yep, one of my "won" auctions was too.
Not only that Dan, but you have "or best offer" on every single item you sell on EBay. I have submitted offers for. 01 less than the price and you've declined it. I'm half tempted to buy just to leave negative feedback for both reasons.
I know his prices are way higher than anyone else on the Bay, and CS sucks....why would I spend more than the cheapest, NM buy it now???

I wouldn't: -)

...short 2 he drive to Madison, maybe I'll come visit...

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Balian Baron of Ibelan on April 09, 2015]

 
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posted April 10, 2015 07:11 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wjuseck Click Here to Email wjuseck Send a private message to wjuseck Click to send wjuseck an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
In an operation as big as Dan's disappointments are inevitable.

If any genius programmers out there can stock balance between TCG, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms those disappointments won't be inevitable anymore.

 
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posted April 10, 2015 08:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for bigballashotcaller Click Here to Email bigballashotcaller Send a private message to bigballashotcaller Click to send bigballashotcaller an Instant MessageVisit bigballashotcaller's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View bigballashotcaller's Have/Want ListView bigballashotcaller's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?


You can't defend the indefensible. See his lame attempts on Reddit to explain away the same thing, which keeps happening over, and over, and over again.

quote:
Originally posted by wjuseck:
In an operation as big as Dan's disappointments are inevitable. If any genius programmers out there can stock balance between TCG, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms those disappointments won't be inevitable anymore.

This has nothing to do with it, and if you believe any explanation based on that you're quite easily fooled. Crystal Commerce has hiccups but manages inventory across platforms fine enough. The issue is when cards get bought up and he just refuses to send out so he can make more money by relisting them at a higher price later. Honorable sellers would make an effort to contact customers and fulfill what they can, which he doesn't do.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by bigballashotcaller on April 10, 2015]
 
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posted April 10, 2015 10:39 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wjuseck Click Here to Email wjuseck Send a private message to wjuseck Click to send wjuseck an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I don't believe that Dan needs to jeopardize his reputation to get by as a businessperson. We'll agree to disagree on that if you feel otherwise.
 
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posted April 10, 2015 10:52 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Markers Click Here to Email Markers Send a private message to Markers Click to send Markers an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
what's the reddit discussion? Any links available? I searched and found nothing...

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quote:
Originally posted by Markers:
what's the reddit discussion? Any links available? I searched and found nothing...


well i'd guess this is his reddit account if you want to look through history, which i haven't yet

http://www.reddit.com/user/DanBock

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quote:
Originally posted by LandDestroyer:
well i'd guess this is his reddit account if you want to look through history, which i haven't yet

http://www.reddit.com/user/DanBock


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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?

For every negative feedback from us being out of stock on an item after the price went up, I can link you to 20 POSITIVE feedbacks for the same card at the pre-spike price.

When a card spikes, we sell infi of them. The more you ship, the more you lose randomly. Our 99.9% feedback with 7000-9000 a month speaks for itself.

 
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posted April 11, 2015 02:23 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DanBock Click Here to Email DanBock Send a private message to DanBock Click to send DanBock an Instant MessageVisit DanBock's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bigballashotcaller:
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I love that you are on the forums now. Now since everyone on Ebay seems to see you reneging on auctions (I've seen it across the boards) would you care to explain yourself?


You can't defend the indefensible. See his lame attempts on Reddit to explain away the same thing, which keeps happening over, and over, and over again. [/QUOTE]

Thank you! I like that you are on the forums too!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by DanBock on April 11, 2015]

 
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posted April 13, 2015 02:37 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DanBock:
For every negative feedback from us being out of stock on an item after the price went up, I can link you to 20 POSITIVE feedbacks for the same card at the pre-spike price.

When a card spikes, we sell infi of them. The more you ship, the more you lose randomly. Our 99.9% feedback with 7000-9000 a month speaks for itself.


Using your positive feedback to attempt to justify your negative feedback does nothing.

I figured your response would look like "LOOK AT MY FEEDBACK" so in reality if there was any doubt it was you initially, you just confirmed it for me, thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by wjuseck:
In an operation as big as Dan's disappointments are inevitable.

If any genius programmers out there can stock balance between TCG, Amazon, eBay, and other platforms those disappointments won't be inevitable anymore.


Because those "genius" programmers would rather work at Amazon or eBay and make the guaranteed money.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by oneofchaos on April 13, 2015]

 
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posted April 13, 2015 04:12 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Because those "genius" programmers would rather work at Amazon or eBay and make the guaranteed money.

The 'genius' way to avoid over-selling on multiple platforms is to not list the same item for sale on multiple platforms.

Sellers who use this excuse have to know there is risk and have to accept the negative feedback they get because of it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
The 'genius' way to avoid over-selling on multiple platforms is to not list the same item for sale on multiple platforms.

Sellers who use this excuse have to know there is risk and have to accept the negative feedback they get because of it.


Well there is of course that which is the simple and reasonable conclusion, but thinking some magic programmer is going to fix all your problems is silly because he would made oodles more money fixing somebody else's problems.

 

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