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AEther Storm
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posted November 18, 2015 11:05 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AEther Storm Click Here to Email AEther Storm Send a private message to AEther Storm Click to send AEther Storm an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
OMG first PFMS or PFS started by me ever!!

Now I can die happy.

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Lord Flasheart: Enter the man who has no underwear. Ask me why.
Lieutenant George: Why do you have no underwear, Lord Flash?
Lord Flasheart: Because the pants haven't been built yet that'll take the job on!

 
paragondave
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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:
OMG first PFMS or PFS started by me ever!!

Now I can die happy.


You must see KC Royals play first!

 
AEther Storm
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posted November 19, 2015 04:27 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for AEther Storm Click Here to Email AEther Storm Send a private message to AEther Storm Click to send AEther Storm an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
You must see KC Royals play first!

2 weeks ago I would've laughed at you


I miss my Legacy tournaments. I hope I can play one again, soon. Plus I hope that the new set gets a good mill-card. Makes my tourney report much more interesting

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Lord Flasheart: Because the pants haven't been built yet that'll take the job on!

 
LandDestroyer
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Why isn't this named Winter is coming? :-|
 
jellyfishfanatic
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posted November 19, 2015 09:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishfanatic Click Here to Email jellyfishfanatic Send a private message to jellyfishfanatic Click to send jellyfishfanatic an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I think it's a play on his username. Aether [Winter] Storm is clunky.
 
AEther Storm
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posted November 19, 2015 11:21 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AEther Storm Click Here to Email AEther Storm Send a private message to AEther Storm Click to send AEther Storm an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jellyfishfanatic:
I think it's a play on his username. Aether [Winter] Storm is clunky.

Yup. Coincidentally we had a (minor) stormish-thing going on over here when I created the topic, too.


So, on topic, does anybody else play mill?

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posted November 21, 2015 09:12 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DJSmurfy Click Here to Email DJSmurfy Send a private message to DJSmurfy Click to send DJSmurfy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Cardboard Crack is almost aggressively unfunny.

Edit: Me a few weeks ago; "I'll wait to pick up those Protean Hulks. Prices have been stable for a while."

Screwed the pooch on that one. $13 my ass.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by DJSmurfy on November 21, 2015]

 
kingtal0n
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hey guys. I've noticed cards like dual lands have come down quite a bit, and some of the fetch lots have suddenly dropped 30%~ sporadically (4x wooded ktk went for $50 instead of $80 for example)

Is this a slow season or year? even the price charts for plateau/savannah/etc are showing down, down down

 
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posted November 22, 2015 02:19 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
SCG announced there would only be one (half as many) legacy main events for their upcoming season. SCG also announced that the Sunday events (aka legacy) would pay out in prize tickets instead of cash. I believe there are also no SCG events west of the Mississippi for the next season.

Overall, less money to be won and fewer high profile events to play in means less people are interested in playing the format. That's driving card prices.

Edit: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/31833_.html

Double edit: allied fetch prices have much more to do with what's hot in standard than the size of the legacy player base.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Pail42 on November 22, 2015]

 
kingtal0n
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Well I hope the duals come back down to $10/each. What would it take for that to happen

[Edited 1 times, lastly by kingtal0n on November 22, 2015]
 
aethertech
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quote:
Originally posted by kingtal0n:
Well I hope the duals come back down to $10/each. What would it take for that to happen

Total game collapse.

 
Nicksmagic
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quote:
Originally posted by aethertech:
Total game collapse.

This is probably pretty accurate.

SCG left a legacy void on the west coast for others to fill. Lower prices will allow more to get in, and the prices will stabilize and continue to rise again. Modern/Standard players who care about their money and think that they would like to play magic for another 20 years will move their value into Legacy/Vintage staples; safe from reprints and becoming obsolete due to power creep.

 
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posted November 25, 2015 12:46 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for DJSmurfy Click Here to Email DJSmurfy Send a private message to DJSmurfy Click to send DJSmurfy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I've thrown together Legacy ProsBloom. So much fun. I wanted to only run old frame cards too, so now I need to optimize it in that manner. I've got some Meditates coming in to start.

Any ideas? Legacy legal and old frames only!

 
AEther Storm
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posted November 27, 2015 02:50 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for AEther Storm Click Here to Email AEther Storm Send a private message to AEther Storm Click to send AEther Storm an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
I've thrown together Legacy ProsBloom. So much fun. I wanted to only run old frame cards too, so now I need to optimize it in that manner. I've got some Meditates coming in to start.

Any ideas? Legacy legal and old frames only!


Never played it, but cool idea! Would like to know how it performs in a tourney


As for myself, I'm thinking about making a G/W Enchantress deck. What would be the funnest way to win with an Enchantress deck? Emrakul doesn't count as fun.

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Lord Flasheart: Enter the man who has no underwear. Ask me why.
Lieutenant George: Why do you have no underwear, Lord Flash?
Lord Flasheart: Because the pants haven't been built yet that'll take the job on!



[Edited 1 times, lastly by AEther Storm on November 27, 2015]

 
caquaa
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posted November 27, 2015 07:41 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
for your entertainment, a small quote from an old email 04/17/00:
quote:

The dollars don't mean I will buy the cards for that amount,just a
trade value for the cards listed above.

$0.25

-Ornithopter
-Uktabi Orangutang
-White Knight
-Black Knight


$0.50

-Volaic Key
-Wall of Blossom
-Albino Troll
-Gemstone Mine
-Wasteland
-Overrun
-Fluctuator
-Memory Jar

$1.50

-Hypnotic Specter
-Chain Lightning
-Plow Under
-Goblin King

$2,-

-Force of Will
-Phyrexian Tower
-Karn,Silver Golem
-Ivory Tower
-Wildfire
-Mana Flare
-Will'o' the Wisp
-Unmask
-Seismic Mage
-Relentless Assault (Vi)
-Rathi Dragon
-Serra's Sanctum
-Archangel
-Baron Sengir

$2.50

-Sol Ring
-Exploration
-Serra Angel
-Demonic Tutor
-Derranged Hermit
-Persecute
-Phyrexian Collossus
-Volrath's Stronghold
-Grim Monolith
-Necropotence
-Spirit of the Night
-Phyrexian Processor
-Mahamori Djinn

$3,-

-Dawnstrider
-Palinchron
-Crusade
-Bad Moon
-Howling Mine
-Coat of Arms
-Hatred
-Opposition
-Multani Maro Sorcerrer

$3.50

-Child of Gaea
-Crater Hellion
-Endless Wurm
-Ball Lightning
-Thorn Elemental
-Might of Oaks
-Argothian Wurm
-Verdant Force
-Nevinyrral's Disk
-Undiscovered Paradise

$4,-

-Argthian Enchanress
-Glorieus Anthem
-Worship
-City of Brass
-Shivan Hellkite
-Lightning Dragon
-Yawgmoth's Will
-Wrath of God
-Vampiric Tutor
-Powder Keg
-Survival of the Fittest
-Recurring Nightmare
-Living Dead

$5,-

-Morphling
-Misdirection
-Treachery
-Shivan Dragon
-Royal Assassin
-Birds of Paradise
-Reflecting Pool
-Wheel of Fortune
-Sneak Attack
-Dustbowl

$6,-

-Serra Avatar
-Hammer of Bogardon

$7,-

-Gaea's Craddle

$8,-

-Squee,Goblin nabob
-Mox Diamond
-Dual lands (revised)
-Cursed Scroll

$9,-

-Masticore
-Rishadan Port



saving old trades is just pure gold.

 
dfitzg88
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
for your entertainment, a small quote from an old email 04/17/00:

saving old trades is just pure gold.


oh god, why would you do that to yourself?

 
coasterdude84
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Haha, awesome! Pretty sure I traded a FoW for a Rathi Dragon back in the day.
 
caquaa
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eh, cause some times you win, some times you lose.
quote:
you want a revised winter orb and force of will for 2 donate, 1 wave of
terror and chronotog, yea i can do that, let me know if it is ok with you

I'd say I was on the winning side getting the FoW, but I'm sure I traded it off for $3 at some point too.

 
fluffycow
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posted November 28, 2015 06:42 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for fluffycow Click Here to Email fluffycow Send a private message to fluffycow Click to send fluffycow an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
for your entertainment, a small quote from an old email 04/17/00:

saving old trades is just pure gold.


Guys I go ripped off. I specifically remember going to a card shop and saw a binder with 6 FoW in them. The Inquest price had a range of 2.5 to 4.5 and the guy wanted 4 for it. I argued with him for like 10 minutes before I realized that he wasn't gonna budge, so I ended up pay $12 for 3 of them. But now that I see that I could have gotten it here for $2 in trade? I am beyond ****ed and should go back to that shop and ask for a refund

 
Nicksmagic
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
...I am beyond ****ed and should go back to that shop and ask for a refund

Yes, you should lol.

That does put my ebay buys into perspective...I bought so many dual lands at that time for about $5-10 bucks each. Thing is, in 1995 I was buying them for $7.50 and that was considered a steal.

Was it just the growing internet market that drove prices down in 2000?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicksmagic:
Yes, you should lol.

That does put my ebay buys into perspective...I bought so many dual lands at that time for about $5-10 bucks each. Thing is, in 1995 I was buying them for $7.50 and that was considered a steal.

Was it just the growing internet market that drove prices down in 2000?


I would suspect an increase in competition led to a decrease in price.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by psyduck_dude12:
I would suspect an increase in competition led to a decrease in price.


Duals left extended and old formats received zero support. In the good old days only Extended, T2 and draft had any support.

 
LandDestroyer
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Duals left extended and old formats received zero support. In the good old days only Extended, T2 and draft had any support.

The dual lands didn't rotate out of extended until November 1st, 2002. In 2001/2002 I was buying duals at $8-$11 ($11 for sea) fairly consistently. It wasn't until the 10th anniversary of magic and mtg was inducted into the gaming hall of fame that prices started going up a lot if memory serves. By 2007 underground sea was probably around $30

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=sideboard/news/20020517a

[Edited 1 times, lastly by LandDestroyer on December 02, 2015]

 
aethertech
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At least here in MN, Sea was ~$16 durring 2010, or so. With the other duals trailing by a few dollars.

 
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Someone trade me some Legends Underworld Dreams.
 

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