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cadden Member	posted January 04, 2003 01:26 AM yasssssss what a bunch of idiots. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
phyrexianscooter Banned	posted January 04, 2003 07:28 AM damn, damn, damn, damn, (is d a m n, a censored word ?) Now I can't use the naem MountainDew.dec for my new deck or the "law" will kick my arse. __________________ Tarja Turunen <= The reason I want to live in Finland. 6,66 Satans Child
dputz Member	posted January 04, 2003 11:26 AM Sound to me like they think there is a product being sold _ (miracle grow deck) - when in reality it is merely a slang term or jargon for a style of deck used to play the game. Perhaps you could drop them an e-mail to ask. I don't know much on the subject, but it seems a bit retarded. -D
HanSolo6385 Member	posted January 04, 2003 12:10 PM I say wing 'em back a letter notifying them of your father copyrighting the name "Miracle Grow" back in 1950 for a deck of playing cards. Then tell them to cork it before you press charges. __________________ No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. AIM Handle:SURFNSKI4REAL King Woopywoopy of the Penguin Clan NaimOfNone [3:56 PM]: And I want to have your children.
shoprider Member	posted January 05, 2003 12:48 AM quote: Originally posted by georgecpop: No one said lawyers were smart. Also, even if their name is copyrighted, still it's not like we're selling anything here and if we were i'm sure they're not in the Magic business. It's ridiculous, unless they think you know what they put in their "miracle-gro" and it's not green cards. I think they (lawyers) do this stuff to make it look like they're saving their clients money. ie-> "Hey guys, We just stopped a trademark infringement that could have potentially cost you several million dollars! Aren't you glad you have us working for you for only a few hundred grand a year?" BTW- I'm not sure but I don't think trade marks are enforced internationally, so if the american company only had the trade mark registered in America, I could go and post something about a deck called Miracle Gro and they couldn't touch me... Because I'm in Canada! But I could be wrong... so I'll shut up before I get sued now.
killjoy72 Member	posted January 05, 2003 01:44 AM quote: The application of this trademark dilution to the deck named by Alan Comer and publicly recognized by WotC as "Miracle-Gro" may have some bizarre legal merit. I guess companies have to be anal since Xerox let the name slip into the domain of free use. __________________ "All men make mistakes. But a good man yields when he knows his course is wrong, and repairs the evil. The only crime is pride."--Sophocles "If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life"-- Henry David Thoreau
Tha Gunslinga Moderator	posted January 05, 2003 11:03 AM quote: Originally posted by shoprider: I think they (lawyers) do this stuff to make it look like they're saving their clients money. ie-> "Hey guys, We just stopped a trademark infringement that could have potentially cost you several million dollars! Aren't you glad you have us working for you for only a few hundred grand a year?" Lol, probably true.
Denizen Member	posted January 05, 2003 12:04 PM how much of a life would you not have to have to go through and write a letter like that? idiots. __________________ Collect: Phyrexian Infiltrator = 15 Wild Research = 13 Cops & Rops = 148 Click on - ONE SITE TO RULE THEM ALL! Join the Coaliton (or perhaps the Phyrexians) I'm Sudz: Lt. for Black, Lt. Commander for Green, controller of Desolation Mongrel and Tiana. Go Vampires!
jbp26 Member	posted January 05, 2003 12:35 PM quote: Originally posted by Denizen: how much of a life would you not have to have to go through and write a letter like that? idiots. They're corporate lawyers. Its their job. They make a ridiculous amount of money at it too. __________________ A Haiku: Beware of Thomas The train with the human face He's not in God's plan
implode Member	posted January 05, 2003 12:40 PM Wow, this is why lawyers have such a bad name...I guess I'm fortunate wizards hasn't decided me using card titles/art for informational purposes is against the rules.
Kogar Member	posted January 05, 2003 01:01 PM If it were me, I'd just let them do whatever they're gonaa do about it. If they want to take you to court, let them. When the judge sees the case, s/he'll probably laugh them out of court for being so stupid. Or else just counter with the fact that you weren't the first one to call it that.
phyrexianscooter Banned	posted January 05, 2003 01:09 PM Imagine what would happen when this is taken to court and the Judge plays Magic. Miracle Grow to be exact . That would be sweet. __________________ 6:66 Satans Child
Euthyphro Member	posted January 05, 2003 01:13 PM Does WotC put names on their Worlds decks that they release? It'd be interesting to see what would happen if one of those decks had been named Miracle Gro and then released with that name.
TunaBoo Banned	posted January 05, 2003 03:45 PM quote: Originally posted by Kogar: If it were me, I'd just let them do whatever they're gonaa do about it. If they want to take you to court, let them. When the judge sees the case, s/he'll probably laugh them out of court for being so stupid. Or else just counter with the fact that you weren't the first one to call it that. Oh yes, it is fair to make Leshrac pay $10,000 in cout feets to be laughed out of court __________________ One day... one day I am going to quit my awful job at Dairy Queen and go apply at McDonalds! Tuna's Most Wanted Card Of The Week: Japanese Chronicles City Of Brass If you see one, drop me a line. I will hook j00 up phat!
Dotzcom13 Member	posted January 05, 2003 04:42 PM ok so what you all say we call it miraculous(sp?) grow?
TheFireStarter Member	posted January 05, 2003 05:14 PM That's some odd stuff... __________________ ~Stupid Rambleing Ends Here~ E-mail: NaimOfNone@yahoo.com AIM: NaimOfNone I <3 Limited almost as much as your mom. The meaning of Life for Newbies; QAPC RIP - Ari And my life has never been a bed of roses.
Goaswerfraiejen Member	posted January 05, 2003 05:20 PM Two words fer everyone: Cocoa Pebbles Hell, TnT too! Oh, and why not Trix while we're at it? Silly wabbit... __________________ Evil-doers! Cower in fright for I am the one, the only...uhh... Psst! Mat! What was that name again? What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine... RIP-Ari. Kein Vogel Singt Mehr.
TheFireStarter Member	posted January 05, 2003 05:54 PM quote: Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen: TnT too! Isn't TnT a a shortened name for the chemical(s) used in Dynimite? __________________ ~Stupid Rambleing Ends Here~ E-mail: NaimOfNone@yahoo.com AIM: NaimOfNone I <3 Limited almost as much as your mom. The meaning of Life for Newbies; QAPC RIP - Ari And my life has never been a bed of roses.
Goaswerfraiejen Member	posted January 05, 2003 06:27 PM quote: Originally posted by TheFireStarter: Isn't TnT a a shortened name for the chemical(s) used in Dynimite? Yep, Torpex something or other, but I'm sure it's under some sort of copyright/patent. Hell, it also stands for Turner network Television. THEY MUST have that under some such law. __________________ Evil-doers! Cower in fright for I am the one, the only...uhh... Psst! Mat! What was that name again? What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine... RIP-Ari. Kein Vogel Singt Mehr.
Speed Demon Banned	posted January 05, 2003 06:40 PM quote: Originally posted by TheFireStarter: Isn't TnT a a shortened name for the chemical(s) used in Dynimite? TNT short name for trinitrotoluene n: a yellow crystalline compound that is a flammable toxic derivative of toluene; used as a high explosive.
Goaswerfraiejen Member	posted January 05, 2003 06:56 PM quote: Originally posted by Speed Demon: TNT short name for trinitrotoluene n: a yellow crystalline compound that is a flammable toxic derivative of toluene; used as a high explosive. Ah! Thanks dude! Guess I was wrong about Torpex...what the hell is torpex, then? Torpex charges and so forth, yes, I know the context, but...Anyway! __________________ Evil-doers! Cower in fright for I am the one, the only...uhh... Psst! Mat! What was that name again? What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine... RIP-Ari. Kein Vogel Singt Mehr.
SerraBanger Member	posted January 06, 2003 08:54 AM Funny We would have to be making $$$ off of the name "Miracle Grow" if they were to have any grounds for a lawsuit. Wonder why someone went through all the trouble of emailing you without doing a shred of research first? __________________ Undisputed MOTL Arm wrestling champion! My Refs-O'-Plenty! AIM- NudistBuddhist27 He who dies with the most foils wins.
TunaBoo Banned	posted January 06, 2003 09:37 AM quote: Originally posted by SerraBanger: Funny We would have to be making $$$ off of the name "Miracle Grow" if they were to have any grounds for a lawsuit. Wonder why someone went through all the trouble of emailing you without doing a shred of research first? No this is not true. They can say we are de-valuing the name. Aka, making the name worth less by using on other stuff. People COULD get in trouble for this, read the read of the thread. __________________ Tuna's Most Wanted Card Of The Week: Japanese Chronicles City Of Brass If you see one, drop me a line. I will hook j00 up phat! 2002 Runner up for: The Mimi Bobeck Award, The Big Bird Award, The AC/DC Award, The Homer Simpson Award, The Mike Bullard Award, The Chronicle Award.
Leshrac Founder	posted January 06, 2003 06:28 PM Just for clarification, this was sent via certified mail, not e-mailed to me, I'm not sure where that misunderstanding arose. __________________ Leshrac leshrac@magictraders.com Founder, Owner - Magic Online Trading League (MOTL) "Working hard, so you don't have to..." My eBay Auctions
TunaBoo Banned	posted January 06, 2003 07:47 PM quote: Originally posted by Leshrac: *Just for clarification, this was sent via certified mail, not* e-mailed to me, I'm not sure where that misunderstanding arose.** People never read a thread before they post about it around here.

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