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Spectre007
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posted October 15, 2010 09:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Spectre007 Send a private message to Spectre007 Click to send Spectre007 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'm starting to get back into Magic after being away for a couple of years. I sold my entire collection years ago and am starting out with a couple of booster boxes, some singles off e-bay and small collections I can pick up here and there.

I'm wondering, what format is it best to focus into that's cost efficient and fun to play. Our group doesn't have the finances to invest in the game heavily like we used to.

Is Type 2 cost efficient or not being you have to buy new cards every time sets rotate or investing the big money into Legacy/Vintages knowing that they will maintain value?

I'm just trying to get an idea of how in depth our group should build into.

Thanks

 
Lord Crovax
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posted October 15, 2010 10:52 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'd avoid Extended until Wotc knows what they are doing with it.

Type2 isnt the cheap format anymore, and as you pointed out does change.

Legacy is more expensive to enter but IMHO is more fun, and again as you pointed out cards tend to hold value, and new cards are always seeming to build up value as time goes on.

Vintage is Legacy with P9 IMHO, it would also probaly be my choice if money wasnt a issue, other wise I'd go with Legacy or EDH (Elder Dragon Highlander) if your just casualy playing amoung friends.

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TimeBeing
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posted October 15, 2010 11:39 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for TimeBeing Click Here to Email TimeBeing Send a private message to TimeBeing Click to send TimeBeing an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Is your group looking to play in tournaments or just each other. If it's purely casual play EDH
 
gcowhsu
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I would agree EDH you can pretty much proxy your whole deck with printouts and no one would care.
 
Spectre007
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posted October 16, 2010 04:55 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Spectre007 Send a private message to Spectre007 Click to send Spectre007 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
EDH looks like it could be really fun. We mostly play casual multiplayer (4+ players) so that migth work.
 
Raven Fire
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posted October 16, 2010 05:15 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Raven Fire Click Here to Email Raven Fire Send a private message to Raven Fire Click to send Raven Fire an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Spectre007:
EDH looks like it could be really fun. We mostly play casual multiplayer (4+ players) so that migth work.

EDH can be very fun, but it also seems to turn into your pet money pit. If you play mostly casual, then I would say a good bet is to pick up old T2 decks. Once the cards have rotated, the values go way down so it can be easy to pick up the rares for cheap (as long as they are not Legacy/Extended staples). If you're not playing in sanctioned tournaments, then it doesn't make sense to pour money into the chase cards. I wonder if you could build an entire "Fires" deck today for what it would have cost for a single copy of Urza's Rage back in 2001...
 
Lord Crovax
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posted October 16, 2010 05:50 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Raven Fire:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Spectre007:
EDH looks like it could be really fun. We mostly play casual multiplayer (4+ players) so that migth work.

EDH can be very fun, but it also seems to turn into your pet money pit. If you play mostly casual, then I would say a good bet is to pick up old T2 decks. Once the cards have rotated, the values go way down so it can be easy to pick up the rares for cheap (as long as they are not Legacy/Extended staples). If you're not playing in sanctioned tournaments, then it doesn't make sense to pour money into the chase cards. I wonder if you could build an entire "Fires" deck today for what it would have cost for a single copy of Urza's Rage back in 2001...[/QUOTE]

Probally less, think the only thing it played that still is abobve a couple bucks is BoP.

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pak167
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posted October 16, 2010 12:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for pak167 Click Here to Email pak167 Send a private message to pak167 Click to send pak167 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i have to agree with EDH as well... it is a really fun format and its relatively cheap.. since you can use a lot of other stuff in place of those expensive rares... and as for 4+ players its even better

as for you thinking bout play in sanctioned tourney and stuff... t2 isn't really the way to go... everything rotates out and it takes too much time and money to try to keep up

extended isn't a good format just yet since there's lots of rumors about it

legacy is probably the best format (imo) it is fun to play with... lots of varieties... and there's sanction + non sanctioned tourneys for them... even tho it is expensive to start with.. like you said they maintain their values if not even rise.. and theres some cheaper decks in legacy such as burn dredge...

vintage is pretty much legacy without P9 like they said... most places allow proxies so if you have a legacy deck.. you can always just change it to a vintage deck with some proxies

but for casual EDH =) cheap and fun

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Lord Crovax
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posted October 16, 2010 04:36 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pak167:
but for casual EDH =) cheap and fun

Unless your in the habbit of pimping out your deck, then it gets expensive quick...but looks amazing!

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TerryJ15
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posted October 16, 2010 06:15 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for TerryJ15 Click Here to Email TerryJ15 Send a private message to TerryJ15 Click to send TerryJ15 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
T2 - you're looking at building a different deck (or at least getting different cards for a deck you already have) every 2-3 months. That's exspensive.

Extended - just pass @ it right now. It's a mess.

Legacy - If you want a tier 1 deck, there might be a little hit to the wallet at first, but the format almost never changes. You can build one deck and play it for years.

EDH - cheap and fun. You should do it.

Also no one has mentioned pauper as an option. Can't get any cheaper than that.

 
airwalk
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posted October 16, 2010 08:57 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for airwalk Send a private message to airwalk Click to send airwalk an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Type 1 is probably actually the cheapest format to play, when most places let you proxy 15 cards and some 25 or more... you really don't need to own very much, and any cards you do buy likely won't be losing any value. Even without any proxies, dredge is fairly cheap.

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Originally posted by pak167:
vintage is pretty much legacy without P9 like they said... most places allow proxies so if you have a legacy deck.. you can always just change it to a vintage deck with some proxies

Throwing P9 into your Legacy deck is a pretty good way to give your entry fee away.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by airwalk on October 16, 2010]

 
wayne
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posted October 16, 2010 10:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View wayne's Have/Want ListView wayne's Have/Want List
Does your group take part in local tournaments? Maybe you guys should choose the format based on that.


Edit: Never mind, saw the answer a few posts above. How about picking up old World Championship decks and playing with them?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by wayne on October 16, 2010]

 

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