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yakusoku
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posted November 01, 2010 10:15 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for yakusoku Click Here to Email yakusoku Send a private message to yakusoku Click to send yakusoku an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
4-Card Blind (4CB) is a very unique game.
The rules are as follows:

* Your deck is composed of 4 cards, all of which start in your hand.
* You have no library (technically, the library exists, but starts at 0 cards) and no sideboard (Wishes fetch nothing).
* Random effects always go against the owner of the card.
* You can see your opponent's hand, so you can always make the best possible play.
* You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
* You will play each opponent twice, once going first, once going second.
* For each win, you score 3.
* For each draw, you score 1.
* For each loss, you get nothing.
* A subgame played with the card Shahrazad will result in an incomplete game and both players will receive ZERO points, since the main game cannot be resumed. Neither player loses or draws, so neither player earns any points.
* Other than the aforementioned, EVERYTHING IS HANDLED EXACTLY LIKE A REAL GAME OF MAGIC!
Remember, it is important for your deck to include a way to cast your cards! (Lands, artifact mana, pitch cards, etc.)
If you want to play PM me a message in this format.
Subject should include "Vanishing 4-Card Blind" (Just click on the little PM icon above my post and it should work out that way.)
Card #1
Card #2
Card #3
Card #4
Be sure you really are happy with your deck before you submit. Once you send in a deck, there is no changing it except in the case of an illegal entry.
Please make every effort to spell your card names correctly. It makes it easier for everyone. Thanks.
The "Vanishing" part is the twist. To start off with, only Unglued, Unhinged and Ante cards are banned. After each round, the 4 cards in the winning deck plus any cards in more than 1/3 of the decks played will be banned for all future rounds. Any lands that only provide mana are exempted from the banning rules.
--------------Current banned list--------------
All Unglued cards
All Unhinged cards
All Ante cards
All cards not appearing in Gatherer (World Champion, Shichifukujin Dragon, cards from a new set not yet released, etc.)
Lands:
Blinkmoth Nexus
Dark Depths
Dryad Arbor
Gemstone Caverns
Ghost Quarter
Karakas
Maze of Ith
Mishra's Factory
Mishra's Workshop
Mutavault
Piranha Marsh
Rishadan Port
Shelldock Isle
Sheltered Valley
Strip Mine
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Tarnished Citadel
Undiscovered Paradise
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Wasteland
Colorless:

Emrakul, the Aeon Torn
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Pathrazer of Ulamog
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre

Artifacts:

Arcbound Ravager
Black Lotus
Chalice of the Void
Chrome Mox
Darksteel Brute
Eater of Days
Energy Chamber
Ensnaring Bridge
Epochrasite
Isochron Scepter
Jhoira's Toolbox
Lion's Eye Diamond
Lodestone Golem
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Petal
Mana Crypt
Memnite
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Myr Servitor
Ornithopter
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Platinum Angel
Pithing Needle
Scalding Tongs
Sol Ring
Sphere of Resistance
Steel Overseer
Tel-Jilad Stylus
The Rack
Thorn of Amethyst
Time Vault
Trinisiphere
Voltaic Key

Multi-Colored:

Lightning Helix
Meddling Mage
Wilt-Leaf Liege

Black:

Bitterblossom
Blackmail
Blind Creeper
Cabal Therapy
Contaminated Ground
Corpulent Corpse
Dark Ritual
Death's Shadow
Delirium Skeins
Diabolic Edict
Dread
Duress
Encroach
Evil Presence
Funeral Charm
Gatekeeper of Malakir
Hymn to Tourach
Inquisition of Kozilek
Mesmeric Fiend
Mind Swords
Nether Spirit
Raving Oni-Slave
Reanimate
Sarcomancy
Sinkhole
Skittering Skirge
Smallpox
Snuff Out
Tendrils of Despair
Thoughtseize
Unmask
Vampire Hexmage
Wretched Anurid

Blue:

Brainstorm
Cloud of Faeries
Confiscate
Cursecatcher
Daze
Energy Field
Flash
Foil
Force of Will
Force Spike
Frost Titan
Indentured Djinn
Kira, Great Glass Spinner
Leyline of Anticipation
Leyline of Singularity
Sea's Claim
Show and Tell
Sphinx of Jwar Isle
Tidal Warrior
Web of Inertia
Words of Wind

Green:

Basking Rootwalla
Channel
Durkwood Baloth
Elvish Lookout
Elvish Spirit Guide
Helix Pinnacle
Lush Growth
Reckless Wurm
Rogue Elephant
Scythe Tiger
Skyshroud Cutter
Tukatongue Thallid
Woodfall Primus
Words of Wilding

Red:

Artifact Blast
Barbed Shocker
Boldwyr Heavyweights
Burning Inquiry
Form of the Dragon
Goblin Guide
Greater Gargadon
Keldon Halberdiers
Lightning Bolt
Magus of the Moon
Raze
Seething Song
Simian Spirit Guide
Sneak Attack
Words of War

White:

Balance
Cenn's Tactician
Chain of Vapor
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Ivory Giant
Leyline of Sanctity
Path to Exile
Preacher
Purity
Restore Balance
Runed Halo
Student of Warfare
Swords to Plowshares

Banned Decks (History)

Round 1: first of the first, ryan2754

Black Lotus
Indentured Djinn
Force of Will
Kira, Great Glass Spinner

Round 2: second only to the first round winner, Tim Shaffer:

Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs

Round 3: reclaiming the title, Tim Shaffer:

Balance
Crystal Vein
The Rack
Mox Pearl

Round 4: if it weren't for that Meddling yakusoku:

Karakas
Leyline of Singularity
Meddling Mage
Mox Sapphire

Round 5: triple-teamed by Battle_of_Twits, Celeborn006, and ryan2754:

Mountain
Burning Inquiry
Lion's Eye Diamond
Reckless Wurm

Burning Inquiry
Plateau
Mox Ruby
Cenn's Tactician

Gemstone Caverns
Force Spike
Tropical Island
Durkwood Baloth

Round 6: 1-2 punch from MasterWolf and Jtrade77:

Bitterblossom
Sheltered Valley
Mox Jet
Maze of Ith

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Wilt-Leaf Liege
Wilt-Leaf Liege

Round 7, naming your cards and eating your brains, Battle_of_Twits:

Swamp
Cabal Therapy
Sarcomancy
Tel-Jilad Stylus

Round 8, two mana is too much for Celeborn006:

Daze
Tundra
Path to Exile
Isamaru, Hound of Konda

Round 9, with ZERO total creature spells, coinmagic45 and yakusoku:

Strip Mine
Sol Ring
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix

Mox Emerald
Strip Mine
Sol Ring
Words of Wilding

Round 10, with artifacts, artifacts, and more artifacts, Battle_of_Twits:

Mana Crypt
Mana Crypt
Arcbound Ravager
Lodestone Golem

Round 11, with lands, lands, and more lands, Battle_of_Twits:

The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Ghost Quarter
Mutavault
Mishra's Factory

Round 12, smells like Nether Spirit - coinmagic45:

Lotus Bloom
Nether Spirit
Smallpox
Thoughtseize

Round 13, take two - MasterWolf and Battle_of_Twits:

Ancient Tomb
Wasteland
Epochrasite
Sphere of Resistance

Artifact Blast
Simian Spirit Guide
Mountain
Keldon Halberdier

Round 14, it takes TWO baby - damnthedoodle and yakusoku:

Undiscovered Paradise
Helix Pinnacle
Blackmail
Swords to Plowshares

Saprazzan Cove
Web of Inertia
Sphinx of Jwar Isle
Darksteel Brute

Round 15, what a shocker - Battle_of_Twits:

Crystal Vein
Lotus Petal
Seething Song
Barbed Shocker

Round 16, a deck so nice, it got played twice - Battle_of_Twits and yakusoku:

Swamp
Dark Ritual
Delirium Skeins
Basking Rootwalla

Round 17, winning with a 2-D Avatar, yakusoku:

Dark Depths
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Duress
Vampire Hexmage

Round 18, he can't lose the game - coinmagic45

Subterranean Hangar
Subterranean Hangar
Gatekeeper of Malakir
Platinum Angel

Round 19, showing you can't spell "Greater Gargadon" without "GG" - coinmagic45:

Raze
Mountain
Dryad Arbor
Greater Gargadon

Round 20, one point is all it takes - coinmagic45:

Swamp
Evil Presence
Encroach
Corpulent Corpse

Round 21, Channeling his life into a winner - WCFmo:

Elvish Spirit Guide
Elvish Spirit Guide
Channel
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

Round 22, Rookie of the Round - Myy

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Purity
Runed Halo

Round 22, played by over 1/3 of the field (3/8):

Skittering Skirge

Round 23, Annihilating your permanents, wayne:

Mercadian Bazaar
Mercadian Bazaar
Sneak Attack
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre

Round 23, played by over 1/3 of the field (3/7):

Dread

Round 24, Myr money, Myr problems - Liq:

Swamp
Myr Servitor
Myr Servitor
Myr Servitor

Round 25, played by over 1/3rd of all players (3/7):

Goblin Guide
Pithing Needle

Round 25, 'cause you gotta have faith - yakusoku:

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Faith's Fetters
Eternal Dragon

Round 26, Foiled by coinmagic45:

Island
Sand Silos
Foil
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth

Round 27, he's in your tourney, takin' your turns - coinmagic45:

City of Traitors
Blinkmoth Nexus
Time Vault
Voltaic Key

Round 28, leaving you with no hand, no land, or no life - wayne:

Peat Bog
Sinkhole
Unmask
Raving Oni-Slave

Round 29, Magus of the Mooning everyone else - yakusoku:

Chrome Mox
City of Traitors
Magus of the Moon
Words of War

Round 30, keeping us in suspense with Suspend, coinmagic45:

Gemstone Mine
Restore Balance
Ivory Giant
Chain of Vapor

Round 31, a thorn in our sides, MAB_Rapper:

Ancient Tomb
Ancient Tomb
Thorn of Amethyst
Eater of Days

Round 31, played by over 1/3rd of players:

Sea's Claim

Round 32, winning with all creatures and no creatures, Magic1264 and MAB_Rapper:

Saprazzan Skerry
Energy Field
Piranha Marsh
Words of Wind

City of Traitors
Steel Overseer
Steel Overseer
Ornithopter

Round 33, winning with one card tied behind his back, WCFmo:

Leyline of Sanctity
Inquisition of Kozilek
Student of Warfare
Scrubland

Round 34, winning through the fyre and flames, Alexisonfyre:

Tarnished Citadel
Lush Growth
Lightning Bolt
Death's Shadow

Round 35, widening the gap between him and the rest of the mortals, coinmagic45:

City of Traitors
Leyline of Anticipation
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Phyrexian Dreadnought

Round 36, annihilating the opposition, yakusoku:

Swamp
Funeral Charm
Reanimate
Pathrazer of Ulamog

Round 37, junichi activate! Form of the Dragon!

Island
Shelldock Isle
Brainstorm
Form of the Dragon

Round 38, easy as 1-2-3, spell, creature, win, from wayne:

Peat Bog
Contaminated Ground
Hymn to Tourach
Wretched Anurid

Round 39, winning with a rogue strategy, WCFmo:

Cursecatcher
Tidal Warrior
Rogue Elephant
Tropical Island

Round 40, he's Fiendish, Diabolic, Creepy, and uh... Boggy - coinmagic45

Mesmeric Fiend
Diabolic Edict
Blind Creeper
Peat Bog

Round 41, blue spell + blue spell + blue spell = win, coinmagic45:

Sand Silos
Show and Tell
Frost Titan
Confiscate

Round 42, the answer to life, the universe, and everything - junichi:

Preacher
Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Remote Farm
City of Traitors

Round 43, Tiger, tiger burning bright. In the Forest/Swamp - Alexisonfyre:

Bayou
Memnite
Tendrils of Despair
Scythe Tiger

Round 44, flashing everyone, er... uh... bringing out a big, green dumb guy whenever he could play an instant - yakusoku:

Saprazzan Skerry
Flash
Cloud of Faeries
Woodfall Primus

Round 45, winning without paying mana for spells - yakusoku:

Bayou
Tukatongue Thallid
Mind Swords
Skyshroud Cutter

Round 45, played by over 1/3rd of the field (3/7):

Boldwyr Heavyweights

Round 46, armed with all the right tools to beat everyone else - Myy:

City of Traitors
Jhoira's Toolbox
Chalice of the Void
Energy Chamber

Round 47, Look out! It's coinmagic45 with another win:

Bayou
Rishadan Port
Elvish Lookout
Snuff Out

--------------End of Banning list--------------

I will try and post a new round every Monday, allow submissions through Wednesday, reveal deck lists first thing on Thursday and review results posted over the weekend.

NO MISE DECKS!

Any deck submitted MUST have some win condition. Any deck that can do no better than a draw against any possible deck will be rejected. A deck that can't win any game is mathematically eliminated from winning the round, and thus would just be taking a chance to win away from someone who could actually have a shot.

ALL players will assist in judging. The way this will work is that after the submission period is over, After all decks are revealed, judge your own deck against every other deck (going first and going second). Post your findings here in this thread. They will be reviewed by everyone for accuracy. Once a winner is determined the winners deck will be added to the banned list and the next round will begin. Repeated failure to do your own scoring will result in suspensions!

The Winners List (Games won):

12

coinmagic45

10

yakusoku

7

Battle_of_Twits

3

wayne
WCFmo

2

Alexisonfyre
Celeborn006
junichi
MAB_Rapper
MasterWolf
Myy
ryan2754
Tim Shaffer

1

damnthedoodle
Jtrade77
Liq
Magic1264

Suspensions for Round 48 (failure to score Round 47):

NONE!

Decklists:

1. Magic1264

Peat Bog
City of Traitors
Chimeric Mass
Diabolic Edict

2. yakusoku

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Oblivion Ring
Decree of Justice

3. mattw

Forest
City of Traitors
Jinxed Idol
Awakening Zone

4. WCFmo

Taiga
Pendelhaven
Slippery Bogle
Crack the Earth

5. Numotflame96

Goblin Welder
Lightning Axe
Great Furnace
wurmcoil Engine

6. damnthedoodle

Lim-Dul's Hex
Bottomless Vault
Innocent Blood
Innocent Blood

7. Battle_of_Twits

Solitary Confinement
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Boros Garrison
Keldon Megaliths

8. MAB_Rapper

Swamp
Innocent Blood
Hollow Trees
Mitotic Slime

9. coinmagic45

Plains
Loyal Sentry
Loyal Sentry
Knight of Sursi

10. Myy

Angel's Grace
Pact of the Titan
Pact of the Titan
Flags of Trokair

[Edited 5 times, lastly by yakusoku on November 04, 2010]

 
Myy
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I'll try not to forget to submit one this time
 
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damn you coin magic...
 
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quote:
Originally posted by DerFisch:
damn you coin magic...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
[B][/B]

w00t w00t pulling away from yaku again :-)

-Mark

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yaku... for whatever reason... It won't let me pm you, can I email you instead?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by DerFisch:
yaku... for whatever reason... It won't let me pm you, can I email you instead?

I can accept an e-mail.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by DerFisch:
yaku... for whatever reason... It won't let me pm you, can I email you instead?

I've heard Chrome does not allow PMs on MOTL FYI

 
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going back to an older one i used. I'm too bored to think of a new way to lose
 
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You are going down this week coinmagic.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
You are going down this week coinmagic.

I've heard that before ;-)

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quote:
Originally posted by coinmagic45:
I've heard that before ;-)


This time...it's for realz.

 
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Today is the LAST day to submit a deck. Decklists go up tomorrow morning.
 
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In! No real tech this time, unfortunately...

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The decklists have been posted.

You may use other formats as well, but this one is a must. Also PLEASE make sure you use the proper deck

number for your deck. Replace the '?' on the bottom line with the number next to your name on the

decklist.

Scoring:

Play your deck against each other deck twice, once with you going first, once with them going first.

Always remember that each deck is to be played perfectly.

For each of the 2 games, score 3 points if your deck wins or 1 point if the game is a draw, with no

points for a loss.

Some examples:
2 wins (WW) is 6 points.
A win and a draw (WD) is 4 points.
A win and a loss (WL) is 3 points.
2 draws (DD) is 2 points.
A draw and a loss (DL) is 1 point.
2 losses (LL) is 0 points.

Plug YOUR deck number into the ? below the ##, and your score against each deck into the other slots.

Do not play your deck against itself. Just enter an 'x' in the chart under your deck number.

Please copy-and-paste the following code into your Message box in order to assist you with scoring:


code:

## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL
?? 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0

 
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1. Magic1264 WW 6 6

Peat Bog
City of Traitors
Chimeric Mass
Diabolic Edict

2. yakusoku DD 2 8

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Oblivion Ring
Decree of Justice

On play
Me Pendelhaven -> Boggle
Him Icatian Store
Me Taiga -> Crack the earth --> he chooses icatian store & i choose taiga
Him Icatian Store
Me attack -2 (18)
1 counter
(16)
2 counter
(14)
3 counter
(12)
4 counter - he has to get enough dudes to kill if he cycles, he needs 3 or
he can wait a turn to try to get 4/4
(10)
5 counter
(8)
At this point it's a draw if cycles for 3 - 3 1/1 dudes, I'll assume he wants
the win. 6 counters
(6)
He makes a 4/4 - if he attacks for 4 I bring him down and I can win race. staring
contest

My draw
Store
Crack Earth
Store
Boggle Pendelhaven
1 counter 18, 2 counter 16, 3 counter 14, 4 counter 12, 5 counter 10 Force draw?, 6 counter 8
I can still barely win race if attacks...he swings 4 me 16, him 6, swing 12, him 4, swing 10, him 2
etc.

3. mattw WW 6 14

Forest
City of Traitors
Jinxed Idol
Awakening Zone

4. WCFmo XX X 14

Taiga
Pendelhaven
Slippery Bogle
Crack the Earth

5. Numotflame96 WW 6 20

Goblin Welder
Lightning Axe
Great Furnace
wurmcoil Engine

6. damnthedoodle WW 6 26

Lim-Dul's Hex
Bottomless Vault
Innocent Blood
Innocent Blood

7. Battle_of_Twits WW 6 34

Solitary Confinement
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Boros Garrison
Keldon Megaliths

8. MAB_Rapper LL 0 34

Swamp
Innocent Blood
Hollow Trees
Mitotic Slime

9. coinmagic45 DD 2 36

Plains
Loyal Sentry
Loyal Sentry
Knight of Sursi

10. Myy LL 0 36

Angel's Grace
Pact of the Titan
Pact of the Titan
Flags of Trokair

These are preliminary scores. I'm thinking yak wins this one.

 
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WCFmo: Can't I make TWO angels on the play to win?

code:

## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL
02 6 X 6 4 6 6 6 6 6 00 46


1. Magic1264 WW. I O. Ring his Chimeric Mass and then make at least two creatures to win.

2. yakusoku XX

3. mattw WW. I O. Ring the Jinxed Idol and make Angels to win.

4. WCFmo WD

Taiga
Pendelhaven
Slippery Bogle
Crack the Earth

On the play:

y: Store
W: Taiga, Crack
y: Store
w: Pendelhaven, Boggle
y: 1 counter
w: attack for 2, 18
y: 2 counter
w: attack for 2, 16
y: 3 counters
w: 14
y: 4
w: 12
y: 5
w: 10
y: 6
w: 8
y: 7
w: 6
y: 8
w: 4
y: make two angels. One stays back to block, the other flies over to win.

On the draw, I make on angel which stays back to block, since I can't race with one.

5. Numotflame96 WW. I O. Ring the Wurmcoil or race the Welder.

6. damnthedoodle WW. I O. Ring the Hex and make at least 3 creatures.

7. Battle_of_Twits WW. I O. Ring the Solitary Confinement and race the Megaliths with an Angel.

8. MAB_Rapper WW.

He has to build up to 4 counters to Innocent Blood right away, or else I'll O. Ring his only creature to win. Once he does that, though, I O. Ring one of his 2/2's and build up to make two angels to win.

MAB: trees
y: store
MAB: 1 counter, swamp
y: 1 counter, store #2
MAB: 2 counters
y: 2 counters, 1 counter
MAB: 3
y: 3, 2
MAB: 4
y: 4, 3
MAB: 5
y: 5, 4
MAB: mitotic slime, Innocent blood
y: 6, untap a store, play O. Ring on one 2/2, leaving 1 counter
MAB: attack for 2
y: 7, 2
MAB: attack for 2
y: make two angels

from here, I can attack with one and leave the other back to block.

9. coinmagic45 WW

Plains
Loyal Sentry
Loyal Sentry
Knight of Sursi

c: plains, suspend knight
y: store #1
c: 3 counters on knight, loyal sentry
y: 1 counter, store #2
c: 2 counters on knight, attack for 1 (19), play sentry #2
y: 2 counters, 1 counter
c: 1 counter left, attack for 2 (17)
y: 3, 2
c: play knight, attack for 4 (13)
y: 4, 3
c: attack for 4 (9)
y: 5, 4
c: attack for 4 (5)
y: make two angels
c: ...
y: attack with one angel (16-5), keep one back.

coinmagic can't attack into my one angel and get in 5 damage from here.

10. Myy LL. Just too fast for me. I can O. Ring one and lose to the other before I can make an Angel or 4 soldiers.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
1. Magic1264 WW 6 6

Peat Bog
City of Traitors
Chimeric Mass
Diabolic Edict

2. yakusoku DD 2 8

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Oblivion Ring
Decree of Justice

On play
Me Pendelhaven -> Boggle
Him Icatian Store
Me Taiga -> Crack the earth --> he chooses icatian store & i choose taiga
Him Icatian Store
Me attack -2 (18)
1 counter
(16)
2 counter
(14)
3 counter
(12)
4 counter - he has to get enough dudes to kill if he cycles, he needs 3 or
he can wait a turn to try to get 4/4
(10)
5 counter
(8)
At this point it's a draw if cycles for 3 - 3 1/1 dudes, I'll assume he wants
the win. 6 counters
(6)
He makes a 4/4 - if he attacks for 4 I bring him down and I can win race. staring
contest

My draw
Store
Crack Earth
Store
Boggle Pendelhaven
1 counter 18, 2 counter 16, 3 counter 14, 4 counter 12, 5 counter 10 Force draw?, 6 counter 8
I can still barely win race if attacks...he swings 4 me 16, him 6, swing 12, him 4, swing 10, him 2
etc.

3. mattw WW 6 14

Forest
City of Traitors
Jinxed Idol
Awakening Zone

4. WCFmo XX X 14

Taiga
Pendelhaven
Slippery Bogle
Crack the Earth

5. Numotflame96 WW 6 20

Goblin Welder
Lightning Axe
Great Furnace
wurmcoil Engine

6. damnthedoodle WW 6 26

Lim-Dul's Hex
Bottomless Vault
Innocent Blood
Innocent Blood

7. Battle_of_Twits WW 6 34

Solitary Confinement
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Boros Garrison
Keldon Megaliths

8. MAB_Rapper LL 0 34

Swamp
Innocent Blood
Hollow Trees
Mitotic Slime

9. coinmagic45 DD 2 36

Plains
Loyal Sentry
Loyal Sentry
Knight of Sursi

10. Myy LL 0 36

Angel's Grace
Pact of the Titan
Pact of the Titan
Flags of Trokair

These are preliminary scores. I'm thinking yak wins this one.



A lot of your scoring is wrong, so you might want to re-read Crack the Earth again.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:

A lot of your scoring is wrong, so you might want to re-read Crack the Earth again.


Which ones - I was in a hurry, I didn't think it through.

Yak may be right, but the people with only 1 land that is a tap land are not going to win b/c I just sac taiga and they have to sac their tapland. The only other one I can possibly see is coinmagic - he sacs a loyal sentry not his plains.

 
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1. Magic1264 casts city of traitors and chimeric mass turn 1, peat bog turn 2, and edict turn 3. That way, he can protect his Bog from dying, and edict your creature to force a draw.

3. Mattw plays city of traitors and jinxed idol turn 1, and if you play crack the earth, he sacrifices the idol. Turn 2, he taps city for 2, play forest, and cast awakening zone. His infinite chump blockers will force a draw.

9. Coinmagic45 plays a turn 1 plains and loyal sentry. You play crack the earth, and he sacrifices his sentry. He then plays turn 2 Sentry and turn 3 Knight to win the game.

edit: typo

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@Derfisch:

Did you ever submit a deck? I never got an e-mail or PM from you.

quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
The only other one I can possibly see is coinmagic - he sacs a loyal sentry not his plains.

You don't go WW versus Magic1264:

Magic: City, Chimeric Mass (X = 2)
WCFmo: Taiga, Crack (Magic sacrifices City)
Magic: Peat Bog

From here, you can't win as he Edicts you. At best you can hold back Bogle with Pendelhaven as a blocker (he gets to attack first, so you can't race) to force a draw and play Crack if he ever plays Peat Bog (he loses City to Peat Bog and Chimeric Mass to Crack and still Edicts you)

Should be DD for you.

Versus mattw:

matt: City of Traitors => Jinxed Idol
WCFmo: Taiga, Crack (matt sacs Idol)
Matt: tap city for 2, plays forest, awakening zone.

He now has infinite blockers for your bogle.

Should be DD for you.

Versus coinmagic45: he sacrifices a loyal sentry, suspends the knight and plays the second loyal sentry to block. His flyer wins it for him. Should be LL for you.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
1. Magic1264 casts city of traitors and chimeric mass turn 1, peat bog turn 2, and edict turn 3. That way, he can protect his Bog from dying, and edict your creature to force a draw.

3. Mattw plays city of traitors and jinxed idol turn 1, and if you play crack the earth, he sacrifices the idol. Turn 2, he taps city for 2, play forest, and cast awakening zone. His infinite chump blockers will force a draw.

9. Coinmagic45 plays a turn 1 plains and loyal sentry. You play crack the earth, and he sacrifices his sentry. He then plays turn 2 Sentry and turn 3 Knight to win the game.

edit: typo


Meh, I hate you junichi. In other words, I think you might be right.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
Meh, I hate you junichi. In other words, I think you might be right.


Magic is full of hatred.

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Decklists:

1. Magic1264 DD 2 - He can make a 4/4 Mass. Even with Edict, I can block and still have guys. So nobody can do anything.

Peat Bog
City of Traitors
Chimeric Mass
Diabolic Edict

2. yakusoku LL 0 - What he said

Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Oblivion Ring
Decree of Justice

3. mattw LL 0 - I think I have no chance of winning this.

Forest
City of Traitors
Jinxed Idol
Awakening Zone

4. WCFmo WW 6 - Pretty easy race to win, as long as I lead with the Swamp.

Taiga
Pendelhaven
Slippery Bogle
Crack the Earth

5. Numotflame96 WW 6 - I use Blood immediately and he is dead.

Goblin Welder
Lightning Axe
Great Furnace
wurmcoil Engine

6. damnthedoodle WW 6 - I can pay for Hex every turn and 2 Bloods is still not enough.

Lim-Dul's Hex
Bottomless Vault
Innocent Blood
Innocent Blood

7. Battle_of_Twits LL 0 - That was still legal?

Solitary Confinement
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Boros Garrison
Keldon Megaliths

8. MAB_Rapper XX X

Swamp
Innocent Blood
Hollow Trees
Mitotic Slime

9. coinmagic45 WW 6 - I use Blood after he plays his 1st Sentry and I can easily race.

Plains
Loyal Sentry
Loyal Sentry
Knight of Sursi

10. Myy DL 1 - I go to 4 on the play before I drop my guy. On the draw, I'm too slow.

Angel's Grace
Pact of the Titan
Pact of the Titan
Flags of Trokair


code:

## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 TOTAL
08 2 0 0 6 6 6 0 X 6 01 27


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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WCFmo:
Meh, I hate you junichi. In other words, I think you might be right.


Magic is full of hatred.

[/QUOTE]

why don't you play anymore?? just submit any random deck. I mean, I never have time to think of a good one to use, so I I just use the first one that pops into my head.

... you just lie in the shadows and correct all of our missplays

 

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