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Author Topic:   Time Machine and $1000
wjuseck
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 posted November 09, 2010 03:26 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wjuseck Click Here to Email wjuseck Send a private message to wjuseck Click to send wjuseck an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
If you had a time machine and $1000, what would be the best way to spend it on Magic cards? I was inspired to ask this by the recent In Contention podcast.

I remember in 2003 P3K boosters were 99 cents at Yellow Submarine in Tokyo-- now $40-50. Lion's Eye Diamond used to be a $0.50 crap rare-- now $35-45.

What do you guys think is the most efficient way to spend that grand?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by wjuseck on November 09, 2010]

 
Bugger
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 posted November 09, 2010 03:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Bugger Click Here to Email Bugger Send a private message to Bugger Click to send Bugger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Probably Summer Magic if you wanted the most profit.

Snatching up 1000$ worth of Goyfs when they were 3$ apiece would be a pretty nice investment, certainly easier to do than spending 1000$ on duals and P9 way back when.

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stu55 noooooooooooooooooooooooo

 
Timmyhill
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 posted November 09, 2010 03:39 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Timmyhill Click Here to Email Timmyhill Send a private message to Timmyhill Click to send Timmyhill an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Timmyhill's Have/Want ListView Timmyhill's Have/Want List
Well my first thought would be to take my 1,000 and go invest in apple/microsoft then wait for just the right time to sell it off and buy wizards of the cost before hasbro got thier hands on the game.

I dont feel like doing the math on this to see if it would really work.

 
davef139
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 posted November 09, 2010 04:08 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for davef139 Click Here to Email davef139 Send a private message to davef139 Click to send davef139 an Instant MessageVisit davef139's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Timmyhill:
Well my first thought would be to take my 1,000 and go invest in apple/microsoft then wait for just the right time to sell it off and buy wizards of the cost before hasbro got thier hands on the game.

I dont feel like doing the math on this to see if it would really work.

i belive big tech companies like msft and cisco, on 1k investments only net you out like a million, not to mention its totally paper money.

 
Havoc Demon
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 posted November 09, 2010 05:10 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Havoc Demon Click Here to Email Havoc Demon Send a private message to Havoc Demon Click to send Havoc Demon an Instant MessageVisit Havoc Demon's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Would go back in time to when I first started playing, give myself $1000 and tell me to not to play Magic.

Actually I would probably just pick up a bunch of weird stuff at its lowest price.

 
airwalk
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I'd buy up all the Underground Sea's!
 
Lemonjuice
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 posted November 09, 2010 05:17 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lemonjuice Click Here to Email Lemonjuice Send a private message to Lemonjuice Click to send Lemonjuice an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Lots and lots of Alpha/Beta minty things.
 
Malice327
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 posted November 09, 2010 05:30 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Malice327 Click Here to Email Malice327 Send a private message to Malice327 Click to send Malice327 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
spend all $1000 on alpha sealed product when it first came out? Or buy new players moxes for cheap?
 
Lemonjuice
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 posted November 09, 2010 05:54 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lemonjuice Click Here to Email Lemonjuice Send a private message to Lemonjuice Click to send Lemonjuice an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Depends on how cheap "cheap" really is...

 
airwalk
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It didn't take long or Moxes and Lotus to start gaining some value, but I do remember watching people tear up Moxes, Lotus, and *gasp* Shivan Dragon's in Ironman games and not really care because they had jobs and not allowances =p.
 
MTDetermine
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 posted November 09, 2010 07:44 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MTDetermine Click Here to Email MTDetermine Send a private message to MTDetermine Click to send MTDetermine an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I guess the best is, go back to the time and location where the Summer cases were being sold. With $1000, you can buy around 2 cases of Summer MTG.

Imagine you have 2 sealed cases of Summer Magic. You can ask BGS for a bulk rate on grading 6480 cards. Quite sure they can give you a $5-10/card rate. Then market them as "Best chance ever of getting complete BGS 9 Summer Magic".

At $100/basic land (saw someone offering to buy summer lands at $100 on the forum), the basic lands are already $43200. Imagine if they are BGS 9 graded.......

 
MTDetermine
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Just saw on feebay that Summer booster packs go for $4000-6000 each. 2 sealed case will be $1.73m (4000 per pack)- $2.59m (6000 per pack).

Of course, finding a buyer with that kind of money will be a challenge. And if people know there are 2 sealed Summer case out there, the booster pack probably wont be worth 4000-6000 each. But it gives you an idea of how 2 sealed Summer case will be worth now....

 
wjuseck
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 posted November 10, 2010 08:18 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wjuseck Click Here to Email wjuseck Send a private message to wjuseck Click to send wjuseck an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
How about stealing as many cases of Summer Magic as you can and using the $1000 on bail?
 
MagicPatty
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 posted November 10, 2010 08:24 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagicPatty Click Here to Email MagicPatty Send a private message to MagicPatty Click to send MagicPatty an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View MagicPatty's Have/Want ListView MagicPatty's Have/Want List
just find a bunch of stuff that was at one point worth very little, and eventually went way up...

Get Flash for .10, sell for 8.00
Get LED for .50, sell for 30.00 or whatever its at...
Get Goyf at 3.00, sell at 60.00 eventually

As for older stuff, as the power raised in value early, Tabernacle and Bazaar didn't...

Ya know, maybe the best route for spending it on magic would be to buy stock in the company, I don't know how all that stuff works, but WOTC eventually sold to Hasbro right? Isn't that a time to sell in stocks? ....dunno

 
stu55
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 posted November 10, 2010 08:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for stu55 Click Here to Email stu55 Send a private message to stu55 Click to send stu55 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MagicPatty:

Get Goyf at 3.00, sell at 60.00 eventually

Its fun to speculate on this stuff, but it is even more fun when some of us did this for real

 
Myy
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Its fun to speculate on this stuff, but it is even more fun when some of us did this for real

Yeah I know what you mean, Marciano 315 tried it. but it didn't go exacly the way he wanted it to.

who remembers:

"40 Eye of Ugin and 4 foil Eye of Ugin for Black Lotus?

--lol you'll see when these go for 50 bucks a piece in a couple months, you're just jealous. !"

 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by davef139:
i belive big tech companies like msft and cisco, on 1k investments only net you out like a million, not to mention its totally paper money.

Agreed. If you wanted to go back in time and invest you do so in something like Coca-Cola, or McDonald's. If you invested 1K in CC back in the early 20th century you'd have enough money to outright buy WOTC off Hasbro right now.

 
OGB
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Agreed. If you wanted to go back in time and invest you do so in something like Coca-Cola, or McDonald's. If you invested 1K in CC back in the early 20th century you'd have enough money to outright buy WOTC off Hasbro right now.

You're all wrong - I'd go back and buy the island of Manhattan and still have $950 left over!

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junichi
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Sell the time machine for trillions, then buy whatever you want.

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40 Eye of Ugin and 4 foil Eye of Ugin for Black Lotus!?

"lol you'll see when these go for 50 bucks a piece in a couple months, you're just jealous. !" - Marciano 315 03/17/2010

OGB
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Sell the time machine for trillions, then buy whatever you want.

Well just don't sell it to Biff Tannen...he's an unscrupulous character.

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CubFan81
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Agreed. If you wanted to go back in time and invest you do so in something like Coca-Cola, or McDonald's. If you invested 1K in CC back in the early 20th century you'd have enough money to outright buy WOTC off Hasbro right now.

Only problem there is that you'd have to find some insanely old bills. Showing up with modern money to pay for things back then would throw up flags.

 
Lord Crovax
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Unmarked Gold, problem solved. Hell go back in time buy more gold, come back to present, do whatever you'd like.

Magic wise, Wastelands seem good, uncommon + worth 20+ now, gofys of course, P3K, hell Portal in general.

There are loads of cards that started as crap and went up, just pick 1k worth and profit.

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mm1983
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I'd go back to 1998 and buy boxes of Stronghold which had no foils, rares, or uncommons but seriously within reason I'd buy as many dual lands and Force of Wills for $10 or less at that given point in time.
 
mtglover
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I'd buy lottery tickets after remembering the known results. Winning millions of dollars twice per week seems like a great investment.
 
MagicPatty
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ya, that's why the title of the post wants to know what you would spend money on in magic...
 

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