http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/suspended

OWNED.

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Originally posted by DerangedHermit:
He's triple-****ed, right? He was going to be inducted into the HoF and IIRC, owns a store.

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Originally posted by JTAubrey:
Damn, that's really more than I was expecting. Agreed that three days is really fast for something that harsh. I feel really bad for him actually.

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Why? He knew exactly what he was doing. It's not like what he was doing was somehow new to him or anyone else who knows his play style.

Consider what it takes to make it to one:
-go to tournament
-play the right deck
-be at least on par with the best players in the room
-don't make a play error
-don't get land screwed
-when playing a mismatch, draw like a champ and/or hope your opponent gets land screwed
-win die rolls to go first a lot

It gets worse in sealed where we add the bullet point:
-don't open a steaming mess of a pool.

Now we have to consider that an individual only has control over a few of these things, and we can see why it's so hard to qualify!
In fact, I propose that if they were to reset the pro tour and for the next one, only people that qualified in a PTQ can play, we'd only see about 5% of current pros return.
Let's not forget that the top 100 rated players in the world get to go to the pro tour too... how many of them are T.O.s that set up fake tournaments to jack up their rating? How many of them play in tournaments, where if they do well they plug in their name on the report page, and if they don't do well, they plug in a fake name?

Saito got his suspension for getting caught.

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Originally posted by stacker:
this means his hof induction is nixed, right?

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Not sure yet. The only guidelines listed on WOTC's HOF page say that in order to be eligible on the ballot, you can't currently be suspended by the DCI. It doesn't say anything about being inducted.

Clearly an unprecedented case, I'll be interested to see what ends up happening. If I had to guess, though, I'd say he won't get in this year.

On the other hand, if the money he's made playing was mostly the result of him stalling, then he didn't really lose anything : P
His only mistake was getting caught.

There's a bit of irony in the fact that he recently wrote an article for CFB talking about how you shouldn't cheat because it hurts the fun of the game and your ability to play it.

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Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Why? He knew exactly what he was doing. It's not like what he was doing was somehow new to him or anyone else who knows his play style.

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I know, but I have no real reason not to feel bad for him. I mean, regardless of the sketchiness, MtG consumes a better part of his life so it's probably hard for him to deal with something like this, "deserved it" or not.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Even though rounds are only 50 minutes long I always thought there was a 2 minute per turn time limit for each player and if the turn went beyond 2 minutes then there could be grounds for disqualification.

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There's no hard limit. Otherwise, combo deck players would be getting penalized even if they're playing fast. The general guideline that most judges use for slow play is 30 seconds to make a decision. If the decision involves caluclating combat damage, it's understandable to take a *little* longer. If the decision is which land to play, it should take much less.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Even though rounds are only 50 minutes long I always thought there was a 2 minute per turn time limit for each player and if the turn went beyond 2 minutes then there could be grounds for disqualification.

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you need to play at a pace that will allow you to reasonably complete the match. When you intentionally play at a pace slower then this, thats where the issue comes up.

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Originally posted by Meddling Pimp:

There's no hard limit. Otherwise, combo deck players would be getting penalized even if they're playing fast. The general guideline that most judges use for slow play is 30 seconds to make a decision. If the decision involves caluclating combat damage, it's understandable to take a *little* longer. If the decision is which land to play, it should take much less.

But, that is for slow play, which just starts with a warning. That in itself will not get you DQ'ed. Stalling is more than slow play. It's an intentional change in speed or behavior in order to gain an advantage from some time limit (clock winding down, venue closing, opponent's ride wants to leave).

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Even though rounds are only 50 minutes long I always thought there was a 2 minute per turn time limit for each player and if the turn went beyond 2 minutes then there could be grounds for disqualification.

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thats not true at all. most judges I saw give people up to a minute to make a play, but i've also had judges sit next to me while I'm doing math on a combo win/lose turn, and they can visibly see me doing the math as i'm fiddling with the cards and doing math on paper, so they are more lenient with that at times.

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