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Topic: Fake Blue Hurricane on Ebay
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98ViperGTS
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posted December 01, 2010 05:32 AM
      
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Hurricane-NM-Magic-Gathering-Summer-Edgar-/200547766031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2eb1940f0flol
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JasonX-NL
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posted December 01, 2010 05:51 AM
Help me out: how do you know it 100% sure to be fake?- Yes, I realize the seller has 0 feedback
- Yes, the picture is totally crap
Sure, if I know what this card is worth, I would not put it up like that, and as a buyer, I wouldn't touch this one, but still...
[Edited 1 times, lastly by JasonX-NL on December 01, 2010]
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Volcanon
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posted December 01, 2010 06:13 AM
eBay should have a rule that photos have to be in focus. I wouldn't risk $1K on a blurry, 99.99% fake picture.
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MagicPatty
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posted December 01, 2010 06:45 AM
 
quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
I wouldn't risk $1K on a blurry, 99.99% fake picture.
Can't see it getting to that price because no one will actually bid on it cause it's probably fake. That said, you'd only have to be willing to risk thirty or fifty bucks. Still not worth it... __________________
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Meddling Pimp
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posted December 01, 2010 06:57 AM
The $100 shipping isn't helping my opinion of this item, either.
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bcclar77
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posted December 01, 2010 07:24 AM
Is it me, or are the borders too "thick"?
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mm1983
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posted December 01, 2010 07:30 AM
Picture looks too much like it would be from unlimited but unlimited did not have any misprinted or off colored cards. You can clearly tell that its not a summer magic hurricane.
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coolio
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posted December 01, 2010 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by JasonX-NL:
Help me out: how do you know it 100% sure to be fake?
the card is curved and curling like a bad glue job © __________________
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JasonX-NL
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posted December 01, 2010 07:59 AM
I see, another 'tell' to add to my list.See, and people say Coolio isn't a helpful guy! 
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted December 01, 2010 09:06 AM
I got him to send scans. It's a pretty good one. Back appears real. Front doesn't have the print patterns. Prob fake.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/Slinga/bluehurricanefrontscan.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/Slinga/bluehurricanebackscan.jpg__________________
Ebay problems?
File a claim, leave a neg, buy on MOTL.
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caquaa
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posted December 01, 2010 09:22 AM
on the white border of that scan... that whole right top corner looks bad. Seems water damage, which is a typical sign of glue. However I'm at a slight loss to figure out how glue has entered this process. Its not like there are CE summer cards you can reback.
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted December 01, 2010 09:36 AM
Could've been printed on a real card, either a filler or a sanded-down card. Peeled foil I find less likely since the back looks older.__________________
Ebay problems?
File a claim, leave a neg, buy on MOTL.
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98ViperGTS
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posted December 01, 2010 02:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
I got him to send scans. It's a pretty good one. Back appears real. Front doesn't have the print patterns. Prob fake.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/Slinga/bluehurricanefrontscan.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/Slinga/bluehurricanebackscan.jpg
The scans he sent don't even seem to be of the same card pictured in the auction. Look at the top left corner, and the bottom right corner of the picture in the auction. The white boreder is much thicker then on the scan he sent.
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jaromirjagr
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posted December 01, 2010 02:59 PM
hey the guys Canadian so he must be telling the truth.
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Meddling Pimp
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posted December 01, 2010 03:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
The scans he sent don't even seem to be of the same card pictured in the auction. Look at the top left corner, and the bottom right corner of the picture in the auction. The white boreder is much thicker then on the scan he sent.
The front scan also has no background showing, even at the corners, where as the back does.
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caquaa
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posted December 01, 2010 05:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Could've been printed on a real card, either a filler or a sanded-down card. Peeled foil I find less likely since the back looks older.
was my thoughts on how I'd go about making this, however I keep getting polite warnings when I talk about potential processes for making proxies >< It does explain the odd "cut" on the front of the card that isn't seen on the back. Maybe what I'm seeing as water damage is more like worn paper from a sanding processes. I guess if you didn't clean it up enough after that could potentially look bad. Wish there was higher res scans, or I could see it in person.
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white_wolf
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posted December 01, 2010 09:50 PM
I put the two scans side by side and the white border is thick in the blurry scan, and thinner in the clearer scan.I wouldn't touch it myself. __________________
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farsk8dutch
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posted December 01, 2010 10:07 PM
When a "fake" gets reported doesn't the item get dropped from auction?
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98ViperGTS
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posted December 01, 2010 10:14 PM
It almost looks as if he used the scan of the Hurricane from ABU
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bigbob585
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posted December 01, 2010 11:46 PM
maybe it belongs to that guy who posted here a few weeks ago who mentioned that he just found one in his collection.
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twol84
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posted December 02, 2010 06:44 AM
The scans he sent don't seem to be fake, to be honest. Can still see ink clusters on the front, especially where the card is darker. The scan is too dark and not high enough res to tell, though. Added a picture of my hurricane as a comparison:http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/?action=view¤t=SummerHurricane-2.jpg It's his actual photograph that sets the alarm bells ringing.
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Meddling Pimp
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posted December 02, 2010 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by twol84:
The scans he sent don't seem to be fake, ...It's his actual photograph that sets the alarm bells ringing.
Exactly. I think the general concensus is that the scan he sent is probably of a legit card, and quite possibly the borrowed image he used to print the fake that's in his photo.
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98ViperGTS
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posted December 02, 2010 03:06 PM
lol, it got pulled
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