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yakusoku Member	posted December 27, 2010 03:40 PM 4-Card Blind (4CB) is a very unique game. The rules are as follows: * Your deck is composed of 4 cards, all of which start in your hand. * You have no library (technically, the library exists, but starts at 0 cards) and no sideboard (Wishes fetch nothing). * Random effects always go against the owner of the card. * You can see your opponent's hand, so you can always make the best possible play. * You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card. * You will play each opponent twice, once going first, once going second. * For each win, you score 3. * For each draw, you score 1. * For each loss, you get nothing. * A subgame played with the card Shahrazad will result in an incomplete game and both players will receive ZERO points, since the main game cannot be resumed. Neither player loses or draws, so neither player earns any points. * Other than the aforementioned, EVERYTHING IS HANDLED EXACTLY LIKE A REAL GAME OF MAGIC! Remember, it is important for your deck to include a way to cast your cards! (Lands, artifact mana, pitch cards, etc.) If you want to play PM me a message in this format. Subject should include "Vanishing 4-Card Blind" (Just click on the little PM icon above my post and it should work out that way.) Card #1 Card #2 Card #3 Card #4 Be sure you really are happy with your deck before you submit. Once you send in a deck, there is no changing it except in the case of an illegal entry. Please make every effort to spell your card names correctly. It makes it easier for everyone. Thanks. The "Vanishing" part is the twist. To start off with, only Unglued, Unhinged and Ante cards are banned. After each round, the 4 cards in the winning deck plus any cards in more than 1/3 of the decks played will be banned for all future rounds. Any lands that only provide mana are exempted from the banning rules. --------------Current banned list-------------- All Unglued cards All Unhinged cards All Ante cards All cards not appearing in Gatherer (World Champion, Shichifukujin Dragon, cards from a new set not yet released, etc.) Lands: Ancient Den Blinkmoth Nexus Dark Depths Dryad Arbor Gemstone Caverns Ghost Quarter Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai Great Furnace Karakas Maze of Ith Mishra's Factory Mishra's Workshop Mutavault Piranha Marsh Rishadan Port Shelldock Isle Sheltered Valley Strip Mine The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Tarnished Citadel Tolarian Academy Undiscovered Paradise Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Vault of the Whispers Wasteland Colorless: Emrakul, the Aeon Torn Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Pathrazer of Ulamog Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Artifacts: Arcbound Ravager Black Lotus Chalice of the Void Chimeric Mass Chrome Mox Darksteel Brute Eater of Days Energy Chamber Ensnaring Bridge Epochrasite Isochron Scepter Jhoira's Toolbox Lion's Eye Diamond Lodestone Golem Lotus Bloom Lotus Petal Mana Crypt Mana Vault Memnite Mox Emerald Mox Jet Mox Opal Mox Pearl Mox Ruby Mox Sapphire Myr Battlesphere Myr Servitor Ornithopter Phyrexian Dreadnought Platinum Angel Pithing Needle Scalding Tongs Sol Ring Sphere of Resistance Steel Overseer Sword of the Meek Tel-Jilad Stylus The Rack Thopter Foundry Thorn of Amethyst Tidehollow Sculler Time Vault Trinisiphere Voltaic Key Welding Jar Wurmcoil Engine Multi-Colored: Lightning Helix Meddling Mage Tidehollow Sculler Wilt-Leaf Liege Black: Bitterblossom Blackmail Blind Creeper Cabal Therapy Contaminated Ground Corpulent Corpse Dark Ritual Death's Shadow Delirium Skeins Diabolic Edict Dread Duress Encroach Evil Presence Funeral Charm Gatekeeper of Malakir Hymn to Tourach Inquisition of Kozilek Mesmeric Fiend Mind Swords Nether Spirit Raving Oni-Slave Reanimate Sarcomancy Shadow Guildmage Sinkhole Skittering Skirge Smallpox Snuff Out Tendrils of Despair Thoughtseize Unmask Vampire Hexmage Wretched Anurid Blue: Annex Brainstorm Cloud of Faeries Confiscate Cursecatcher Daze Energy Field Flash Foil Force of Will Force Spike Frost Titan Indentured Djinn Kira, Great Glass Spinner Leyline of Anticipation Leyline of Singularity Pongify Reef Shaman Sea's Claim Show and Tell Sower of Temptation Sphinx of Jwar Isle Stormscape Apprentice Tidal Warrior Web of Inertia Words of Wind Green: Basking Rootwalla Channel Durkwood Baloth Elvish Lookout Elvish Spirit Guide Helix Pinnacle Lush Growth Reckless Wurm Rogue Elephant Scythe Tiger Skyshroud Cutter Tukatongue Thallid Woodfall Primus Words of Wilding Red: Artifact Blast Barbed Shocker Blood Moon Boldwyr Heavyweights Boom/Bust Burning Inquiry Crack the Earth Form of the Dragon Goblin Guide Goblin Welder Greater Gargadon Keldon Halberdiers Lightning Bolt Magus of the Moon Raze Seething Song Simian Spirit Guide Sneak Attack Sonic Seizure Words of War White: Balance Cenn's Tactician Chain of Vapor Decree of Justice Elspeth, Knight-Errant Isamaru, Hound of Konda Ivory Giant Knight of Sursi Leyline of Sanctity Loyal Sentry Oblivion Ring Path to Exile Preacher Purity Restore Balance Runed Halo Student of Warfare Swords to Plowshares Banned Decks (History) Round 1: first of the first, ryan2754 Black Lotus Indentured Djinn Force of Will Kira, Great Glass Spinner Round 2: second only to the first round winner, Tim Shaffer: Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere Ensnaring Bridge Scalding Tongs Round 3: reclaiming the title, Tim Shaffer: Balance Crystal Vein The Rack Mox Pearl Round 4: if it weren't for that Meddling yakusoku: Karakas Leyline of Singularity Meddling Mage Mox Sapphire Round 5: triple-teamed by Battle_of_Twits, Celeborn006, and ryan2754: Mountain Burning Inquiry Lion's Eye Diamond Reckless Wurm Burning Inquiry Plateau Mox Ruby Cenn's Tactician Gemstone Caverns Force Spike Tropical Island Durkwood Baloth Round 6: 1-2 punch from MasterWolf and Jtrade77: Bitterblossom Sheltered Valley Mox Jet Maze of Ith Icatian Store Icatian Store Wilt-Leaf Liege Wilt-Leaf Liege Round 7, naming your cards and eating your brains, Battle_of_Twits: Swamp Cabal Therapy Sarcomancy Tel-Jilad Stylus Round 8, two mana is too much for Celeborn006: Daze Tundra Path to Exile Isamaru, Hound of Konda Round 9, with ZERO total creature spells, coinmagic45 and yakusoku: Strip Mine Sol Ring Isochron Scepter Lightning Helix Mox Emerald Strip Mine Sol Ring Words of Wilding Round 10, with artifacts, artifacts, and more artifacts, Battle_of_Twits: Mana Crypt Mana Crypt Arcbound Ravager Lodestone Golem Round 11, with lands, lands, and more lands, Battle_of_Twits: The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Ghost Quarter Mutavault Mishra's Factory Round 12, smells like Nether Spirit - coinmagic45: Lotus Bloom Nether Spirit Smallpox Thoughtseize Round 13, take two - MasterWolf and Battle_of_Twits: Ancient Tomb Wasteland Epochrasite Sphere of Resistance Artifact Blast Simian Spirit Guide Mountain Keldon Halberdier Round 14, it takes TWO baby - damnthedoodle and yakusoku: Undiscovered Paradise Helix Pinnacle Blackmail Swords to Plowshares Saprazzan Cove Web of Inertia Sphinx of Jwar Isle Darksteel Brute Round 15, what a shocker - Battle_of_Twits: Crystal Vein Lotus Petal Seething Song Barbed Shocker Round 16, a deck so nice, it got played twice - Battle_of_Twits and yakusoku: Swamp Dark Ritual Delirium Skeins Basking Rootwalla Round 17, winning with a 2-D Avatar, yakusoku: Dark Depths Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Duress Vampire Hexmage Round 18, he can't lose the game - coinmagic45 Subterranean Hangar Subterranean Hangar Gatekeeper of Malakir Platinum Angel Round 19, showing you can't spell "Greater Gargadon" without "GG" - coinmagic45: Raze Mountain Dryad Arbor Greater Gargadon Round 20, one point is all it takes - coinmagic45: Swamp Evil Presence Encroach Corpulent Corpse Round 21, Channeling his life into a winner - WCFmo: Elvish Spirit Guide Elvish Spirit Guide Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Round 22, Rookie of the Round - Myy Icatian Store Icatian Store Purity Runed Halo Round 22, played by over 1/3 of the field (3/8): Skittering Skirge Round 23, Annihilating your permanents, wayne: Mercadian Bazaar Mercadian Bazaar Sneak Attack Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Round 23, played by over 1/3 of the field (3/7): Dread Round 24, Myr money, Myr problems - Liq: Swamp Myr Servitor Myr Servitor Myr Servitor Round 25, played by over 1/3rd of all players (3/7): Goblin Guide Pithing Needle Round 25, 'cause you gotta have faith - yakusoku: Icatian Store Icatian Store Faith's Fetters Eternal Dragon Round 26, Foiled by coinmagic45: Island Sand Silos Foil Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Round 27, he's in your tourney, takin' your turns - coinmagic45: City of Traitors Blinkmoth Nexus Time Vault Voltaic Key Round 28, leaving you with no hand, no land, or no life - wayne: Peat Bog Sinkhole Unmask Raving Oni-Slave Round 29, Magus of the Mooning everyone else - yakusoku: Chrome Mox City of Traitors Magus of the Moon Words of War Round 30, keeping us in suspense with Suspend, coinmagic45: Gemstone Mine Restore Balance Ivory Giant Chain of Vapor Round 31, a thorn in our sides, MAB_Rapper: Ancient Tomb Ancient Tomb Thorn of Amethyst Eater of Days Round 31, played by over 1/3rd of players: Sea's Claim Round 32, winning with all creatures and no creatures, Magic1264 and MAB_Rapper: Saprazzan Skerry Energy Field Piranha Marsh Words of Wind City of Traitors Steel Overseer Steel Overseer Ornithopter Round 33, winning with one card tied behind his back, WCFmo: Leyline of Sanctity Inquisition of Kozilek Student of Warfare Scrubland Round 34, winning through the fyre and flames, Alexisonfyre: Tarnished Citadel Lush Growth Lightning Bolt Death's Shadow Round 35, widening the gap between him and the rest of the mortals, coinmagic45: City of Traitors Leyline of Anticipation Phyrexian Dreadnought Phyrexian Dreadnought Round 36, annihilating the opposition, yakusoku: Swamp Funeral Charm Reanimate Pathrazer of Ulamog Round 37, junichi activate! Form of the Dragon! Island Shelldock Isle Brainstorm Form of the Dragon Round 38, easy as 1-2-3, spell, creature, win, from wayne: Peat Bog Contaminated Ground Hymn to Tourach Wretched Anurid Round 39, winning with a rogue strategy, WCFmo: Cursecatcher Tidal Warrior Rogue Elephant Tropical Island Round 40, he's Fiendish, Diabolic, Creepy, and uh... Boggy - coinmagic45 Mesmeric Fiend Diabolic Edict Blind Creeper Peat Bog Round 41, blue spell + blue spell + blue spell = win, coinmagic45: Sand Silos Show and Tell Frost Titan Confiscate Round 42, the answer to life, the universe, and everything - junichi: Preacher Elspeth, Knight-Errant Remote Farm City of Traitors Round 43, Tiger, tiger burning bright. In the Forest/Swamp - Alexisonfyre: Bayou Memnite Tendrils of Despair Scythe Tiger Round 44, flashing everyone, er... uh... bringing out a big, green dumb guy whenever he could play an instant - yakusoku: Saprazzan Skerry Flash Cloud of Faeries Woodfall Primus Round 45, winning without paying mana for spells - yakusoku: Bayou Tukatongue Thallid Mind Swords Skyshroud Cutter Round 45, played by over 1/3rd of the field (3/7): Boldwyr Heavyweights Round 46, armed with all the right tools to beat everyone else - Myy: City of Traitors Jhoira's Toolbox Chalice of the Void Energy Chamber Round 47, Look out! It's coinmagic45 with another win: Bayou Rishadan Port Elvish Lookout Snuff Out Round 48, sending his opponents into Oblivion - yakusoku: Icatian Store Icatian Store Oblivion Ring Decree of Justice Round 49, winning the battle and the round - NumotFlame96: Goblin Welder Sonic Seizure Great Furnace Myr Battlesphere Round 50 - winning with a big artifact creature? This looks familiar, NumotFlame96: Mana Vault Mana Vault Wurmcoil Engine Ancient Tomb Round 51 - two mana is too much for coinmagic45: Plateau Crack the Earth Loyal Sentry Knight of Sursi Round 52 - two people with the right answer and 42 points to win, coinmagic45 and Numotflame96 Badlands Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai Shadow Guildmage Boom/Bust Tolarian Academy Thopter Foundry Sword of the Meek Ancient Den Round 53 - land hate brought to you by Battle_of_Twits and yakusoku: Saprazzan Skerry City of Traitors Annex Sower of Temptation City of Traitors Mountain Blood Moon Chimeric Mass Round 54, with 2% more points than second place, Absurd90: Mox Opal Vault of Whispers Tidehollow Sculler Welding Jar Round 55, all for one mana and one mana for all, from WCFmo: Reef Shaman Stormscape Apprentice Pongify Tundra --------------End of Banning list-------------- I will try and post a new round every Monday, allow submissions through Wednesday, reveal deck lists first thing on Thursday and review results posted over the weekend. NO MISE DECKS! Any deck submitted MUST have some win condition. Any deck that can do no better than a draw against any possible deck will be rejected. A deck that can't win any game is mathematically eliminated from winning the round, and thus would just be taking a chance to win away from someone who could actually have a shot. ALL players will assist in judging. The way this will work is that after the submission period is over, After all decks are revealed, judge your own deck against every other deck (going first and going second). Post your findings here in this thread. They will be reviewed by everyone for accuracy. Once a winner is determined the winners deck will be added to the banned list and the next round will begin. Repeated failure to do your own scoring will result in suspensions! The Winners List (Games won): 14 coinmagic45 12 yakusoku 8 Battle_of_Twits 4 WCFmo 3 Numotflame96 wayne 2 Alexisonfyre Celeborn006 junichi MAB_Rapper MasterWolf Myy ryan2754 Tim Shaffer 1 Absurd90 damnthedoodle Jtrade77 Liq Magic1264 Suspensions for Round 55 (failure to score Round 55): NONE! Decklists: 1. nailbunny7 Subterranean Hangar Chainer's Edict Vebulid Rite of Consumption 2. yakusoku Peat Bog City of Traitors Juzam Djinn Mind Twist 3. MAB_Rapper Dodecapod Dodecapod Remote Farm Subterranean Hangar 4. coinmagic45 Plains City of Traitors Elixir of Immortality Serra Ascendant 5. mattw Hickory Woodlot City of Traitors Mungha Wurm Lightning Greaves 6. Magic1264 Subterranean Hangar Icatian Store Vindicate Angel of Despair 7. Battle_of_Twits Peat Bog City of Traitors Poison the Well Yukora the Prisoner 8. Absurd90 Divert Zealous Guardian Zealous Guardian Tolaria 9. junichi Swamp Vector Asp Blazing Shoal Myojin of Infinite Rage 10. WCFmo Piracy Charm Ostracize Wind Zendikon Underground Sea 11. Myy Oona's Prowler Exhume Akroma, Angel of Wrath Peat Bog [Edited 8 times, lastly by yakusoku on December 30, 2010]
coinmagic45 Member	posted December 27, 2010 06:39 PM I think there were a few incorrect scores from last round giving WCFmo more points... I would have checked these earlier but I was out of town all weekend... ************************************************* yaku versus WCFmo: yaku's play: yaku plays Bog. WCFmo plays land + Shaman. yaku plays Plague Spitter. WCFmo plays nothing. During yaku's next upkeep, WCFmo turns Bog into an Island. The Plague Spitter trigger goes onto the stack. Then WCFmo plays Pongify on Shaman. Plague Spitter trigger resolves and the life totals are 19-19. yaku can't attack or he loses his creature and can't Mind Twist, so he passes the turn. Then WCFmo attacks with his 3/3 on his turn, putting yaku at 16. He then plays Apprentice. On yaku's turn, both players take 1 damage from Spitter, putting the score at 18-15 (WCFmo-yaku). From here, a 3/3 Ape outraces a 2/2 Spitter, if yaku tries attacking. If yaku doesn't attack, he dies to his own Spitter. This should be WW for WCFmo and LL for yaku, not WD... *********************************************** WCFmo versus BoT: WCFmo's play: Race with Pongify: WCFmo plays land + Shaman. BoT plays Hangar. WCFmo attacks to 19 then plays Pongify to race faster. BoT gets 1 counter. WCFmo attacks to 16 and plays Apprentice, BoT 2 counters. Then 12-3, 8-4, 4-5. WCFmo attacks BoT to death. That's a Win for WCFmo. BoT's play: WCFmo's actions determine how this plays out. Option 1 - WCFmo races with Pongify but is 1 turn too slow (see above post). This ends in Win for BoT. Option 2 - WCFmo does nothing until BoT plays stuff. Eventually BoT has infinite mana. On his turn, he plays Nightstalker + Mindslicer. If WCFmo Pongifies the Mindslicer, he loses his Apprentice. If he plays Apprentice on his next turn, it dies to Consume. This ends in Win for BoT. Option 3 - WCFmo plays Shaman and then does nothing. Eventually BoT has infinite mana. At the end of one of WCFmo's turns, he plays Consume and kills Shaman. Then, he untaps and plays both creatures. Apprentice can only stop 1, and Pongify gives another creature to attack with. This ends in Win for BoT. Option 4 - WCFmo plays Shaman then Apprentice. He loses to Consume. This is a Win for BoT. Option 5 - WCFmo plays Apprentice first. This does nothing and he loses to Nightstalker. This is a Win for BoT. I think this is WL for both, not DD... ************************************************* WCFmo versus Numotflame96: Numot's play: Numot plays turn 1 Assassin. WCFmo plays Shaman. Numot plays Wistful Thinking and empties Numot's hand. Numot does not attack. If WCFmo attacks, then Numot can level up his guy. So WCFmo has to tap to deactivate the Sea during Numot's upkeep. This leaves him open to the 1/1 attacking him to death. If he lets the creature level, then it eventually kills the Shaman and wins. This should be WL for both, not WD for WCFmo and LD for Numot... That's how I see it, at least :-P Thoughts? __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in Kentucky Blackborder.com Grading Guide [Edited 1 times, lastly by coinmagic45 on December 27, 2010]
nailbunny7 Member	posted December 27, 2010 08:19 PM pm'd u
yakusoku Member	posted December 27, 2010 08:50 PM coinmagic, Those all seem correct. I've made adjustments accordingly.
Battle_of_Twits Member	posted December 28, 2010 11:56 AM Thank you coinmagic for your work on my score; I was so far from contention I decided not to give it too much thought. __________________ Stages of Death: Anger, Denial, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, Burial, Decay, Haunting, Revenge, Evil Laugh Originally posted by pyr0ma5ta: When in doubt, always go with the mom joke. It's classy, and you always win. There can be no comeback.
WCFmo Member	posted December 28, 2010 11:58 AM quote: Originally posted by Battle_of_Twits: Thank you coinmagic for your work on my score; I was so far from contention I decided not to give it too much thought. Coinmagic is going down this week, LL :P Thanks coinmagic __________________ Neal: He says we're going the wrong way... Del: Oh, he's drunk. How would he know where we're going?
coinmagic45 Member	posted December 28, 2010 01:01 PM quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: Coinmagic is going down this week, LL :P Thanks coinmagic :-) Oh come on, I gave you the win this week and you still want to WW against me? How greedy :-P __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in Kentucky Blackborder.com Grading Guide
coinmagic45 Member	posted December 29, 2010 06:07 AM Should Ancient Den be banned? It's just a land that taps for mana. It's also an artifact, but storage lands also add counters and they aren't banned. I've got a deck idea that needs it not to be banned :-P
Myy Member	posted December 29, 2010 07:33 AM Eveybody's going down this round. Even me. We'll have a 7 way tie.
yakusoku Member	posted December 29, 2010 01:13 PM Today is the LAST day to submit a deck. I've updated the list of people who have given me a deck, so if you don't see your name there, but want to play, PM me ASAP! coinmagic45: Ancient Den (and Vault of Whispers) are both banned. Although they may be right there on the cusp of what's legal regarding lands, I'm going to follow the spirit of the rule on this one. The rule was intended to allow BIG spells to continue to be played, even if someone wins with storage lands. Otherwise, eventually the format would eventually degenerate into an unfun metagame where only basic lands are legal. While the artifact lands only tap for one mana of one color (except Darksteel Citadel), they ARE artifacts and sets them apart. Ancient Den allowed for unusual plays that required an artifact that aren't present when replacing it with a plains.
Myy Member	posted December 29, 2010 01:28 PM I dunno what to play with anymore. I'll have to think about it tonight.
ElvesFTW Member	posted December 29, 2010 02:12 PM Last round I used vault of whispers though...
yakusoku Member	posted December 29, 2010 02:36 PM quote: Originally posted by ElvesFTW: Last round I used vault of whispers though... I forgot to ban it when it did win. I won't punish anyone retroactively.
coinmagic45 Member	posted December 29, 2010 09:26 PM quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: Today is the LAST day to submit a deck. I've updated the list of people who have given me a deck, so if you don't see your name there, but want to play, PM me ASAP! coinmagic45: Ancient Den (and Vault of Whispers) are both banned. Although they may be right there on the cusp of what's legal regarding lands, I'm going to follow the spirit of the rule on this one. The rule was intended to allow BIG spells to continue to be played, even if someone wins with storage lands. Otherwise, eventually the format would eventually degenerate into an unfun metagame where only basic lands are legal. While the artifact lands only tap for one mana of one color (except Darksteel Citadel), they ARE artifacts and sets them apart. Ancient Den allowed for unusual plays that required an artifact that aren't present when replacing it with a plains. Fair enough. Good bye, Glint Hawk.dec __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in Kentucky Blackborder.com Grading Guide
mattw Member	posted December 30, 2010 05:35 AM goodbye glint hawk? to quote barney stinson... Challenge Accepted! next week though, I already submitted a losing deck for this week
coinmagic45 Member	posted December 30, 2010 05:44 AM quote: Originally posted by mattw: goodbye glint hawk? to quote barney stinson... Challenge Accepted! next week though, I already submitted a losing deck for this week hahaha I look forward to seeing what you come up with! And don't worry, even if you lose, you'll still be a winner in my book :-) __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in Kentucky Blackborder.com Grading Guide
WCFmo Member	posted December 30, 2010 11:55 AM Wonder if yak is ok. __________________ Liq> you just can't expect a sig worthy line to appear out of nowhere on demand
yakusoku Member	posted December 30, 2010 12:12 PM The decklists have been posted. You may use other formats as well, but this one is a must. Also PLEASE make sure you use the proper deck number for your deck. Replace the '?' on the bottom line with the number next to your name on the decklist. Scoring: Play your deck against each other deck twice, once with you going first, once with them going first. Always remember that each deck is to be played perfectly. For each of the 2 games, score 3 points if your deck wins or 1 point if the game is a draw, with no points for a loss. Some examples: 2 wins (WW) is 6 points. A win and a draw (WD) is 4 points. A win and a loss (WL) is 3 points. 2 draws (DD) is 2 points. A draw and a loss (DL) is 1 point. 2 losses (LL) is 0 points. Plug YOUR deck number into the ? below the ##, and your score against each deck into the other slots. Do not play your deck against itself. Just enter an 'x' in the chart under your deck number. Please copy-and-paste the following code into your Message box in order to assist you with scoring: code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?? ??
coinmagic45 Member	posted December 30, 2010 12:35 PM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL 04 6 6 6 X 6 6 6 6 2 06 00 50 1. nailbunny7 - I gain life faster than he can build his Vebulid. Edict stops Ascendant temporarily but it comes back. WW 2. yakusoku - I don't care about Mind Twist. I gain as much life per turn as Djinn can deal, and it eventually kills yaku. WW 3. MAB_Rapper - Ascendant > Dodecapod. WW 5. mattw - I gain 6 life per turn with a small Ascendant. mattw can deal a max of 6 per turn. Eventually my pecks deal 20 damage. WW 6. Magic1264 - Vindicate and Angel don't matter when I can get back whatever dies. WW 7. Battle_of_Twits - Poison just slows me down a bit with having to shuffle my land back. I gain 6 per turn and Yukora can only deal 5. WW 8. Absurd90 - Divert doesn't do anything. My 1/1 is better than his. WW 9. junichi - My turn 1 Ascendant blocks his Asp, but I can't attack or else he will kill me back, so we stare. DD 10. WCFmo - On the draw, he plays turn 1 Ostracize. I play City + Elixir. If he plays Zendikon, then I pop Elixir during my upkeep and shuffle. Worst-case for me is to draw Ascendant. If I play Ascendant, then he makes me discard my Elixir next turn after I have drawn it but before I can play it. Therefore, I play nothing but keep Ascendant and Plains in hand. He does nothing. I draw Elixir. I float mana from City, then play Plains, lose the City, then play Elixir and pop it to reshuffle. He keeps doing nothing and just waiting until he can hopefully catch me with Piracy Charm. I just have Ascendant in hand. Next turn I draw Elixir. I play it. Next turn I draw City and play it. Now I can continue to cycle Elixir until I have a million life, always keeping Ascendant in hand to make sure I can keep the Elixir trick going. Then, when I'm satisfied I have enough life, I play Ascendant, which is bigger than Zendikon. Now it doesn't matter that I lose Elixir next upkeep because I have gained enough life to have a big 1-cc creature. WW 11. Myy - No matter what I do, he ends up with a 6/6 first striker that can always block my 6/6 without me gaining life (first strike). I only gain 5 per turn with Elixir, so I slowly die. LL __________________ 3rd most references in Kentucky; 3rd most posts in Kentucky Blackborder.com Grading Guide
Magic1264 Member	posted December 30, 2010 12:43 PM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL 06 6 0 6 0 0 X 0 6 0 00 00 18
WCFmo Member	posted December 30, 2010 12:53 PM 1. nailbunny7 DD Subterranean Hangar Chainer's Edict Vebulid Rite of Consumption 2. yakusoku WD Peat Bog City of Traitors Juzam Djinn Mind Twist 3. MAB_Rapper LL - don't think i'm quick enough Dodecapod Dodecapod Remote Farm Subterranean Hangars M Island zen H Sub M 18 H Sub1 RF M 16 H Sub2 M 14 H Dodecapod M 12 H attack17 Sub 1 M 10 H attack 14 sub 2 M 8 H attack 11 dodecapod M 6 H attack 6 M 4. coinmagic45 LL Plains City of Traitors Elixir of Immortality Serra Ascendant 5. mattw WW Hickory Woodlot City of Traitors Mungha Wurm Lightning Greaves 6. Magic1264 WD Subterranean Hangar Icatian Store Vindicate Angel of Despair 7. Battle_of_Twits WD Peat Bog City of Traitors Poison the Well Yukora the Prisoner 8. Absurd90 WW Divert Zealous Guardian Zealous Guardian Tolaria 9. junichi WW Swamp Vector Asp Blazing Shoal Myojin of Infinite Rage 10. WCFmo XX Piracy Charm Ostracize Wind Zendikon Underground Sea 11. Myy WW Oona's Prowler Exhume Akroma, Angel of Wrath Peat Bog This is prelim, be back later code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL 10 2 4 0 0 6 4 4 6 6 XX 06 38 __________________ Liq> you just can't expect a sig worthy line to appear out of nowhere on demand [Edited 1 times, lastly by WCFmo on December 31, 2010]
yakusoku Member	posted December 30, 2010 01:21 PM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL 02 6 X 3 0 3 6 3 6 0 01 06 34 1. nailbunny7 WW. I can make him discard three cards on turn two, which is too fast for him to play anything but Hangar. 2. yakusoku XX 3. MAB_Rapper WL. On the play, I can deal 20 damage before he can play both creatures. On the draw, I can get him down to 5 before he plays both. I either lose to my own creature or he double blocks and he has a 3/3 to kill me. 4. coinmagic45 LL. I can't stop him from playing turn 1 Elixir 5. mattw WL. On the play, I make him lose Wurm. On the draw, he can play Mungha Wurm and race Juzam. 6. Magic1264 WW. I can Mind Twist before he can Vindicate. 7. Battle_of_Twits WL. Mind Twist wins on the play, Poison the Well wins on the draw. 8. Absurd90 WW. I play Juzam Djinn and race. I can also play Mind Twist for 1. 9. junichi LL. He kills me on turn 2 on the draw, and sits back and waits for my own creature to kill me on the play. 10. WCFmo DL. On the play, I lose Juzam to either Piracy Charm or Ostracize and Mind Twist for the draw. On the draw, he plays Ostracize first, making me lose Juzam, then plays Zendikon while I'm tapped out. 11. Myy WW I Mind Twist on turn two and go down to 1, but race him.
MAB_Rapper Member	posted December 30, 2010 04:52 PM Decklists: 1. nailbunny7 DD 2 - Eventually, he has to block or lose, but my lone Dodecapod will die also. Subterranean Hangar Chainer's Edict Vebulid Rite of Consumption 2. yakusoku WL 3 - What he said. Peat Bog City of Traitors Juzam Djinn Mind Twist 3. MAB_Rapper XX X Dodecapod Dodecapod Remote Farm Subterranean Hangar 4. coinmagic45 LL 0 - Eh... Plains City of Traitors Elixir of Immortality Serra Ascendant 5. mattw LL 0 Hickory Woodlot City of Traitors Mungha Wurm Lightning Greaves 6. Magic1264 LL 0 - Ew... Subterranean Hangar Icatian Store Vindicate Angel of Despair 7. Battle_of_Twits LL 0 Peat Bog City of Traitors Poison the Well Yukora the Prisoner 8. Absurd90 WW 6 Divert Zealous Guardian Zealous Guardian Tolaria 9. junichi LL 0 - Ew... Swamp Vector Asp Blazing Shoal Myojin of Infinite Rage 10. WCFmo WW 6 - What he said. Piracy Charm Ostracize Wind Zendikon Underground Sea 11. Myy LL 0 Oona's Prowler Exhume Akroma, Angel of Wrath Peat Bog code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL 03 2 3 X 0 0 0 0 6 0 06 00 17 [/B][/QUOTE] I don't know why I was worried about LD. And where's the discard? __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - Three Years Running for 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My Nationals) Cracking the Top 100 Ref Count - 4/1/10 (Currently #79 - #6 in new York)
junichi Moderator	posted December 30, 2010 07:20 PM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 TOTAL 09 6 3 6 2 4 6 4 0 x 00 03 34 __________________ 40 Eye of Ugin and 4 foil Eye of Ugin for Black Lotus!? "lol you'll see when these go for 50 bucks a piece in a couple months, you're just jealous. !" - Marciano 315 03/17/2010
mattw Member	posted December 31, 2010 05:13 AM geez coinmagic, i know you are more original than that. lol

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