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MagixDK
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posted January 02, 2011 01:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So..

Im possible looking for someone to altered a set of rev duals.

I want fullart/textless altering.

I have seen several good alterations, but do not know many good and reliable artists(afterall i will be shipping them 40 duals).

So who is known on motl, aside from yawg, to do great alterations at a reasonable price?

 
JesusChristMD
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posted January 02, 2011 02:43 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JesusChristMD Click Here to Email JesusChristMD Send a private message to JesusChristMD Click to send JesusChristMD an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Get Poxy from Salvation.

earlgrantdeleon@yahoo.com is his address, he does unreal things with cards, but duals especially.

"for he alter charges it'll be like on the ranges of 20 to 30..
he only thing that would reach the 30range would somthing like of thebazzaar, by the way its 35..being full art with additional details..the willenskraft cost 25each, new look deltas and the duals are on 25"

Was from us talking about prices, and his are VERY reasonable and just look incredible.

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posted January 02, 2011 02:54 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Harmless Click Here to Email Harmless Send a private message to Harmless Click to send Harmless an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Get Poxy from Salvation.

earlgrantdeleon@yahoo.com is his address, he does unreal things with cards, but duals especially.

"for he alter charges it'll be like on the ranges of 20 to 30..
he only thing that would reach the 30range would somthing like of thebazzaar, by the way its 35..being full art with additional details..the willenskraft cost 25each, new look deltas and the duals are on 25"

Was from us talking about prices, and his are VERY reasonable and just look incredible.


Wow, I always loved poxy's work but never contacted him because I assumed I wouldn't be able to afford it. But $25 is very reasonable for such nice looking duals.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Harmless on January 02, 2011]

 
MagixDK
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posted January 02, 2011 03:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
thnx im checking his stuff out right now.

other recommendations welcome (especially to artists in europe)


edit: holy freaking mother of god:
Taiga:http://s671.photobucket.com/albums/vv78/poxy14/?action=view¤t=taiga_alps.jpg

[Edited 1 times, lastly by MagixDK on January 02, 2011]

 
flophaus
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posted January 02, 2011 04:00 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for flophaus Click Here to Email flophaus Send a private message to flophaus Click to send flophaus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So you're sayin' that guy will charge $25x40?

That's a lot of $!

 
Timmyhill
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i'm all for altering cards but why would you want to ruin your duals?
 
Harmless
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posted January 02, 2011 08:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Harmless Click Here to Email Harmless Send a private message to Harmless Click to send Harmless an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Timmyhill:
i'm all for altering cards but why would you want to ruin your duals?

Let's face it, WB duals are ugly and the original art is pretty bland on most of them.

 
MagixDK
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posted January 03, 2011 01:51 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
indeed, the duals are boring to look at, and im looking to add a little sass.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Harmless:
Let's face it, WB duals are ugly and the original art is pretty bland on most of them.

But Scrublands aren't that bad. And the art is the same on them all! What do you mean "most of them"? In all seriousness, why are you in a rush to "fix" them? Depending on how the artist does their work, wouldn't it endanger them of not being tourney legal?

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flophaus
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posted January 03, 2011 08:23 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for flophaus Click Here to Email flophaus Send a private message to flophaus Click to send flophaus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
End result... The world is left with 40 more poor condition dual lands. Sad.
 
Thanos
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posted January 03, 2011 08:28 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
End result... The world is left with 40 more poor condition dual lands. Sad.

+1

I wish this monstrosity of a fad would end already

 
Uthaedeol
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posted January 03, 2011 08:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Uthaedeol Click Here to Email Uthaedeol Send a private message to Uthaedeol Click to send Uthaedeol an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
End result... The world is left with 40 more poor condition dual lands. Sad.

Poor, maybe, but if done well, they're still worth a bit more to a substantial amount of people.

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JesusChristMD
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posted January 03, 2011 10:07 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JesusChristMD Click Here to Email JesusChristMD Send a private message to JesusChristMD Click to send JesusChristMD an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
Poor, maybe, but if done well, they're still worth a bit more to a substantial amount of people.


Usually more than a "bit"

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MagixDK
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posted January 03, 2011 11:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
also the ones ill be sending in are obviously the worst condition ones i have. no NM will be altered, I think its a clever way to "fix" worn cards.
 
flophaus
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posted January 03, 2011 11:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for flophaus Click Here to Email flophaus Send a private message to flophaus Click to send flophaus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:
also the ones ill be sending in are obviously the worst condition ones i have. no NM will be altered, I think its a clever way to "fix" worn cards.

By this thinking, I'd be "fixing" crappy condition cards by inking their black borders?

 
Thanos
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posted January 03, 2011 11:36 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
By this thinking, I'd be "fixing" crappy condition cards by inking their black borders?

Amen.

 
Timmyhill
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I dont mind it on basic lands or random junk, it just doesnt seem to make sense that people do it to money cards... I've seen some nice looking beta power that someone altered and after they were done it was just awful looking.
 
airwalk
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posted January 03, 2011 11:58 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for airwalk Send a private message to airwalk Click to send airwalk an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Yeah, yeah. We get it, some people don't like alterations. These same people are MTG Communists, they think all cards belong to the general magic playing populus and that by doing whatever you feel like with your cards you're hurting 'the game'. Enough QQ, buy your own duals, vacuum-seal them and store them in a Deep Underground Military Base so they will be protected for the rest of time. Oh ye defenders of the Duals, so it is proclaimed.

That said, Poxy's work is very good and apparently very affordable! Get that ish done up.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by airwalk on January 03, 2011]

 
flophaus
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posted January 03, 2011 01:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for flophaus Click Here to Email flophaus Send a private message to flophaus Click to send flophaus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by airwalk:
Yeah, yeah. We get it, some people don't like alterations. These same people are MTG Communists, they think all cards belong to the general magic playing populus and that by doing whatever you feel like with your cards you're hurting 'the game'. Enough QQ, buy your own duals, vacuum-seal them and store them in a Deep Underground Military Base so they will be protected for the rest of time. Oh ye defenders of the Duals, so it is proclaimed.

That said, Poxy's work is very good and apparently very affordable! Get that ish done up.


A bit dramatic, but I understand your point. However, I don't think it's hurting the game what-so-ever. In fact, perhaps it draws more people in?

 
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posted January 03, 2011 06:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'll alter your cards. But I'm a bit unorthodox. I use only very thick felt markers, melted butter, paint thinner and gasoline.

Your cards will be very unique.

More seriously, alters are fine even if I dont care for them. If they are done well. BUT - please don't use "textless" alters of cards that you dont know what they do. It's almost as bad as the textless cryptic command they printed a while ago, because explaining that to every single player who didn't know what it did was so much fun.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Volcanon on January 03, 2011]

 
MagixDK
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posted January 04, 2011 02:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
I'll alter your cards. But I'm a bit unorthodox. I use only very thick felt markers, melted butter, paint thinner and gasoline.

Your cards will be very unique.

More seriously, alters are fine even if I dont care for them. If they are done well. BUT - please don't use "textless" alters of cards that you dont know what they do. It's almost as bad as the textless cryptic command they printed a while ago, because explaining that to every single player who didn't know what it did was so much fun.


im sticking to duals, expecting most people to be familiar with them

 
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posted January 04, 2011 07:36 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for masuli Send a private message to masuli Click to send masuli an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
If you want to get all 40 duals altered, ask the head judge of the legacy events you attend first. Since it's entirely in his/her discretion on what to allow, it'd suck to get all 40 full-altered only to discover later that s/he doesn't allow them. Of course, if you intend to use them for casual only, never mind all that.

Also, it's easier (and probably cheaper) to get them commissioned one at the time, altering playsets is mindbogglingly dull work, if you want all four look the same.

 
MagixDK
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posted January 04, 2011 11:17 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
its no problem. the smaller local tourneys are organized by friends of mine.

and i can just replace them with non altered for other events.

but ur right. if i had exactly 40 duals, and had them all altered, and still couldnt play in any events. that would suck.


edit: i dont want all 4 to look the same. but id want each 4 in a set to look familiar. and all 40 to clearly look like they belong together. (could just be by a clear style by the artist)

[Edited 1 times, lastly by MagixDK on January 04, 2011]

 
yakusoku
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posted January 04, 2011 12:42 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for yakusoku Click Here to Email yakusoku Send a private message to yakusoku Click to send yakusoku an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
BUT - please don't use "textless" alters of cards that you dont know what they do. It's almost as bad as the textless cryptic command they printed a while ago, because explaining that to every single player who didn't know what it did was so much fun.

I'd be wary even if you DO know what they do.

I learned this the hard way when I first started building my cube and used both textless and foreign cards. BIG mistake. Every time I played, I had to explain what some cards did. I also had a foil textless Cryptic Command that got replaced after many incidents like these:

"What's Harmonize do? Besides cost 2GG?"
"It lets you draw three cards."
"Oh, that seems really good for green."

"I Swords to Plowshares your Wild Mongrel."
"In response, I discard a card and give it protection from white."
"That's not what it does."
"Last time you drafted Wild Mongrel, you did that to me."
"No, I discarded a card to turn Wild Mongrel black so Terror wouldn't kill it. Once the ability resolves, it's a black creature and an illegal target for Terror, so Terror is countered. It doesn't give it protection from black."
"Oh. It's in Japanese; I couldn't read it."

And I've lost track of how many times I've had to explain whether it's toughness or power that Swords to Plowshares and Condemn use.

The most frustrating moment was when someone was drafting with my cube and passed a really good artifact.

"Why didn't you draft that?"
"I don't know what it does."
"And you couldn't ask?"
"Eh. Whatever."

So now, I only play with cards with the full English text, so this never happens again.

 
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I for truely hate painted and foreign cards. To me they are worth less than the regular version. Only way I would be interested in foreign is if the foreign translation was funny or neat.
 

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