High Level stuff:
Just the lands itself will cost will cost you $1K

10 Duals - 400-500 (or u can CE Duals, probably 200-250)
10 Fetches 100
10 Shocks 60-70
10x Filter 50
1x Libary 120-150
Good Stuff, Maze, Cradle, Tolarian, Waste, Port, Stronghold, etc.
100-150

Non Lands
CE Power 500
Each Color: 200-300 as a high level guess

etc.

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Originally posted by chapman24:
it can be costly to start but you can make proxies and slowly trade for the cards you need and when its done the cost is super low maybe a few cards a year make the cut and its the most fun you can have playing magic

i started this way and now I have 2 proxies left (library and mana drain) and have upgraded about 75% to foils

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You will find that cards that were once great no longer are any good. For example, you could have gone out and got Morphling. Until they changed the combat rules and printed Sphinx of Jwar Isle.

Don't copy a cube card for card. Especially the ones on forums. Most of them aren't good. Experiment and get feedback from your playgroup (if they're helpful and know how to play Magic well).

If you want nice proxies I'd suggest buying a CE set, but those are still expensive. It gets you demonic tutor, 10x duals, P9, swords, savannah lions, armageddon, wrath of god, black/white knights, uh.. I'm sure theres more but those were the ones off the top of my head that I remember using to start.

A few months ago I set out to build Evan's cube, and slowly traded away the bigger cards in my collection to get the pieces. Eventually, though, I just realized how huge it was and "downgraded" to this smaller one. She also updates hers more often and publishes articles about cube drafting on StarCity.

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Originally posted by Scopes13mtg:

I agree with the other people, though, that building your own and customizing it to your group will be more rewarding... I just haven't done so because I don't use it often enough and only end up doing 2-3 person drafts. :-(

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Originally posted by msmike2:
I've got a question with cube, I'm almost done with mine (maybe 20 cards away), I was thinking of adding Planeswalkers, was wondering if anybody else have added them, I was thinking one for each color. Any thoughts?
Mike

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My cube consists of every planeswalker except for Nissa, and Chadra Ablaze. Probably won't add in new Tezzeret as I don't have a ton of artifacts, the old Tezz is in there because he can fetch up the REALLY good ones...ie Sol Ring, Jitte, SOFI, SOLS, Skullclamp etc etc.

EDIT: My play group hates a single card, Contract from Below, it's been errated to read as following

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Originally posted by daner:
My cube consists of every planeswalker except for Nissa, and Chadra Ablaze. Probably won't add in new Tezzeret as I don't have a ton of artifacts, the old Tezz is in there because he can fetch up the REALLY good ones...ie Sol Ring, Jitte, SOFI, SOLS, Skullclamp etc etc.

EDIT: My play group hates a single card, Contract from Below, it's been errated to read as following

B - Remove the top card of your library from the game, then draw 7 cards. It's the most powerful card in the cube IMO.

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New one would be fun with Artifact Lands, which IMHO should be in, as it would give Trinket Mage more targets.

and making Lands into 5/5's seems fun.

But that's just me.

1) Just shuffle the whole thing together and start counting out 15 cards face down as a pack.

2) Shuffle up each individual color and take 2 cards each from White, Blue, Black, Red, Green, Multi, and 3 from a combined shuffle of Artifacts and Non-basic Lands.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
RE: daner
contract form below wouldn't even be considered in my cube. I don't do house rules on anything. Everything is English and has text, just read what it does. The only exception is oracle wording changes, which is rare. Impulse used to be a good example but I finally got a foil one which doesn't mention shuffling. I also won't play any un-cards with un effects. Currently there are no silver bordered cards, but I might be convinced some day to add a very few that are ridiculous.

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Well I have 2 things then for a response.

1. So what do you do about Chaos Orb? You don't really flip it do you? Or don't you use it at all?

2.I think that's half the fun about a cube, using stuff from the Un-sets or even having to have a house ruling on a card. Personally, I made these up, and had someone make the cards for me seeing as I'm a huge Ghostbusters fan.

Here are my creations

Peter Venkman CC = 1 R/U R/U

Legendary Human - Ghostbuster

Protection from Black and Green

When " " Enters the Battlefield ti deals 4 damage to target non-human creature.

3/3

"Back off man, I'm a scientist" ~ Venkman

Ray Stantz CC 1 G/W G/W

Legendary Human - Ghostbuster

Protection from Black and Enchantments

When " " enters the battlefield exile target non-human creature or enchantment.

2/3

"The Heart of the Ghostbusters" ~ Venkman

Egon Spengler CC 1 U/W U/W

Legendary Human - Ghostbuster

Protection from non-human creatures.

U/W tap: Exile target non-human creature.

1/4

"I collect spores, mold, and Fungus." ~ Spengler

Winston Zeddmore CC 1 G/R G/R

Legendary Human - Ghostbuster

Protection from Black and Blue

Haste, Trample, Persist

When " " enters the battlefield put a Twinkie token into play.

Sacrifice a Twinkie: Regenerate " "

4/2

"That's a big twinkie." ~ Winston

Proton Pack CC 2

Lgendary Artifact - Unlicensed Nuclear Excelerator

Target creature gets +2+2 and protection from black. When equipped creature deals combat damage to a player you may exile target non-human creature.

Equip 2(0 on any Ghostbuster)

"Why worry? Each on of us is wearing a unlicenced nuclear exceleator on his back." ~ Venkman

Ecto-1 CC 3

Legendary Artifact - 1959 Cadillac Ambulance

Equipped creature gets +1+0, Haste, Trample, and Shroud.

Equip 1(0 on any Ghostbuster)

"We're ready to believe you."

Ghost Trap CC 1

Legendary Artifact - Ghost Trap

1 Tap: Exile Ghost Trap and target non-land permanent.

Re planeswalkers: I just include anything I find strong enough. Currently that's all except Bolas, Chandra Ablaze, Nissa, Venser, Sarkhan the Mad. Although Lilliana and Sarkhan Vol may be on their way out.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
A handful of the silverbordered cards are pretty good in Cube. Tainted Monkey, Magical Hacker and Blast from the Past come to mind. Most un-cards aren't strong enough to really warrant being in a cube anyway - or they are hideously busted like Blacker Lotus or Chaos Confetti.

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I'm currently building a common/uncommon Cube that will be more geared toward multiplayer.* A few Silver bordered cards are likely to make the cut, the biggest one being Booster Tutor. Think about that in a powered Cube: Take any 15 cards that are leftover from the original draft (only works if you have more cards than players, obviously) and consider that a Booster...then have fun! In a c/uc Cube it's a little less insane but I still think it's worth a slot for the fun factor.

*If anyone has any advice they would like to share on how to draft for multiplayer (larger packs, an extra pack, larger decks etc.), feel free to drop them on me. At first this Cube will be tested one on one but the goal is to have a fun multiplayer alternative to EDH (you know, the other singleton format where most of the stuff you play is rare). Thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by Montague:
What was errata'd on dauthi horror?

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A lot of Errata has to do with Creature type. For example, Khabal Ghoul is now a Zombie and not a Ghoul. Similarly, Dauthi Horror is no longer a Beast, it's a Dauthi Horror (which id kind of interesting). Hope that helps clarify things!

15 Fetches (yup the mirage ones are still in)
10 Duals
10 Shocks
10 Filters
10 Karu Lands

I think I based my list Original after the one about but have gone from there.. I need to go through my cube and re-list it out.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
Slightly related question...how do you guys make or prefer to make the packs for your cube? The two ways I've heard about are to:

1) Just shuffle the whole thing together and start counting out 15 cards face down as a pack.

2) Shuffle up each individual color and take 2 cards each from White, Blue, Black, Red, Green, Multi, and 3 from a combined shuffle of Artifacts and Non-basic Lands.

The only problem with the 2nd option is that after the first pick you know exactly what color was drafted out of the pack so an alternative would be to shuffle up your pack of 15 and randomly select 2 cards from it and pass them to the drafter who won't get your pack. ie if you're passing the pack left then pass the two randoms to the right.

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My cube is 66 cards of each colour, 60 artifacts and 60 non-basic lands. I make up 30 packs by carelessly laying out 30 white cards, 30 red cards on that, 30 green on that, and so on until I have a stack of 5.

Once I have 30 stacks of colour I cover each with 1 artifact and 1 non-basic land, then another stack of 5, artifact and non-basic land as above.

The remaining 30 (6 of each colour) cards are lain face down randomly on each stack, finalizing each pack of 15 cards. I sleeve the packs in mylar envelopes I purchased from a confectioner. Tough enough for repeated use and a perfect size for 15 sleeved cards.

This method probably makes experienced drafters groan, but it works well for the people I play with.

My cube gets drafted maybe once a month, and I want my friends to be able to see what colour was kept, (usually they don't even pay attention) though that extra random colour throws a wrench in the works.

As an aside, has anyone ever had Chandra Ablaze work out in thier cube? I don't play enough to see her prove herself, just read a lot of comments that she isn't quite good enough for most cubes.

If anyone is curious (or is willing to give me some suggestions ) I have my cube on an excel sheet. Email / PM me and I'll send it over.

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Originally posted by keywacat:
As an aside, has anyone ever had Chandra Ablaze work out in thier cube? I don't play enough to see her prove herself, just read a lot of comments that she isn't quite good enough for most cubes.

Cheers;
keywacat

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