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Topic: Josh Sherman's Build My Deck Contest
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JoshSherman Member
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posted January 31, 2011 09:50 AM
Light turnout this time. I should have considered that for a weekend. Oh well. Necropede wins round two.Necropede- 4 Black Sun's Zenith- 2 Phyrexian Crusader- 1 So right now the deck looks like this: 4 Ichor Rats 4 Throne of Geth 4 Contagion Clasp 4 Everflowing Chalice 4 Duress 4 Necropede I need more removal now, so this round is going to be removal only. I'll count votes until I post on Thursday. I think I'll take a four of and a three of from this round, so vote early and often! Well, maybe not often, but you can vote for two if you want. Doom Blade Virulent Wound Spread the Sickness Go For The Throat Black Sun's Zenith __________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on January 31, 2011]
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Myy Member
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posted January 31, 2011 09:53 AM
Virulent Wound .- It's awesome. won some games with this. although needs some more playtesting Black Sun's Zenith .- It wins games.
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Liq Member
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posted January 31, 2011 11:58 AM
Spread the Sickness: Too Expensive. Virulent Wound: Not effective enough. Black Sun's Zenith: Not as a 4x or 3x of. Doom Blade: NonBlack - My vote for 3x Go for the Throat: NonArtifact - My vote for 4x__________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned
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AGO Member
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posted January 31, 2011 07:58 PM
Go For The Throat Your best answer for removal in standard.Virulent Wound x3 Good for getting that suprise damage in and those extra counters
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Myy Member
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posted February 01, 2011 07:05 AM
I say Virulent wound x3 and Go for the throat x4
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yakusoku Member
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posted February 01, 2011 12:32 PM
4x Go for the Throat 3x Doom BladeBlack Sun's Zenith isn't very good in this deck - when have aggro decks run Wrath effects? (Cataclysm doesn't count, because it was the pseudo-Armageddon effect that was backbreaking) Spread the Sickness is too expensive/sorcery that doesn't hit man-lands or creatures that get equipped from Quest decks; Doom Blade and GftT can make help make sure Argentum Armor won't be destroying your stuff. Virulent Wound just isn't good enough in an environment where you can expect to see Titans from Ramp decks, and lots of X/2 creatures in aggro decks. It kills Lotus Cobra by itself and can take down a creature in conjunction with Infect, but why not just kill the creature BEFORE they block?
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revenger Member
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posted February 01, 2011 01:02 PM
Doom Blade Virulent Wound Spread the Sickness Go For The Throat Black Sun's ZenithI'd add: doom blade x3 spread the sickness, to expensive for my taste go for the throat x3 Black sun's zenith, x2 possibly 3 (It's a nice sweeper of weenies in the early game, and possibly board sweeper late in the game when you have lots of mana hanging around. ~Revenger __________________ Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in. Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner!
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Volcanon Member
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posted February 02, 2011 09:01 AM
So, lands?There's the 4/2 guy from RoE. And Bojuka Bog for the zero reanimate strategies so prevalent in T2 now. And that land from worldwake that gives you black equal to dead stuff in your yard. I guess the poison dragon is pretty good. And the poison lord.
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Myy Member
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posted February 02, 2011 09:41 AM
I'm gonna change my coices, as I just re-read virulent wound. I thought it gave the opponent the counter no matter when the creature died, but it's actually the turn you cast it, so I'll change that to the doom blade/ GftT
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EuroRunner Member
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posted February 02, 2011 10:01 AM
Doom Blade- x3 id prefer disfigure here, but this is fine Virulent Wound- has great synergies with the deck, but giving a creature one counter isnt as good as giving a lot of creatures a lot of counters Spread the Sickness- if im spending 5 mana to kill something id like to cascade...or kill a lot of creatures with a lot of counters Go For The Throat- x4 Hits almost everything in standard Black Sun's Zenith- Has some nice synergy with Necropede(glad to see he was voted in anyway) and should you end up with a mimic vat in play, could be bananas. My problem with this card is i feel like aggro builds will be on the decline as knowledge of it's existence is a deterrent from playing the archetype. That being said, id still want 2 main and maybe a 3rd in the board for elves and weenie strategies where ever they may be. 4x Go for the Throat 3x Doom Blade-Necropede isn't a better fit than duress but is better than a first strike infect?
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farsk8dutch Member
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posted February 02, 2011 06:28 PM
Wut up yo.4x BSZ 4x GFtT Probably need more CC though. [Edit:] Do I have to PM you Josh, for my vote to count.
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JoshSherman Member
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posted February 03, 2011 06:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: Black Sun's Zenith isn't very good in this deck - when have aggro decks run Wrath effects? (Cataclysm doesn't count, because it was the pseudo-Armageddon effect that was backbreaking)
This isn't an aggro deck. At best it's midrange. The goal isn't to win through damage, it's to win through proliferation. quote: Originally posted by farsk8dutch: [Edit:] Do I have to PM you Josh, for my vote to count.
Well, the rules say PM. But you didn't PM me, and I counted your vote. I also tried to count votes which didn't fit the scheme this time. It'd be super cool if everyone who wants to vote follows the rules exactly though. This round was a landslide. More voter turnout than last round, too. I think I'm going to post the next one(for sideboard) on Tuesday rather than Monday to facilitate that. The only unanswered land question is can I get Inkmoth Nexuses, or do I stick with Tectonic Edge (which was way better with Grim Discovery anyway). Without Further Adieu: Go For The Throat: 7 Doom Blade: 5 Virulent Wound: 1 Black Sun's Zenith: 1 Go For The Throat X 4 Doom Blade X 3 It was pretty obvious what was going on, so I didn't really need to separate the votes into a 4-of pile and a 3-of pile. So, for reference, here's what my 31-card deck looks like: 4 Ichor Rats 4 Throne of Geth 4 Contagion Clasp 4 Everflowing Chalice 4 Duress 4 Necropede 4 Go For the Throat 3 Doom Blade Interesting... five slots to go. For this vote, I want everyone to vote for two cards again. I'm not going to guarantee a number of slots to any winners this time. Just tell me what you would like to see in the deck. There's almost no chance I'm going to run four of any of these cards. Maybe I'll go 3/2, or maybe -1/3/3, or perhaps even -1/3/2/1. We'll see. Liquimetal Coating- good synergy, can stop GFTT. Mimic Vat- I kill dudes, then beat face (or block my own face) Grim Discovery- so good with Tec Edge Contagion Engine- would be a 1-of, like a fifth Clasp Phyrexian Crusader- he's gross, but he still gets girls. Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas- definitely splashable, but then I'm susceptible to Tec Edge. These last slots are where the problem is for me, I think. I have too many potential options, and I don't know which is best. I'm low on artifacts for Throne of Geth right now, so Coating would be good (as would just about any artifact). I'm low on dudes, so Crusader may be helpful. Although, if I'm low on dudes and artifacts, the best way to cure that is with an artifact dude, except there are none on the list. Tezzeret is a possible alternate kill if we're just staring at each other (but do I want to splash for it?) Oh, and I've spent half an hour putting this list together, cutting fanboy favorites like Ichor Wellspring and Spine of Ish Sah. I may need Spine in the side (or Lux Cannon) since I can't deal with noncreature permanents. ARGH! Voting for this round will be closed when I post results on Tuesday. __________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
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JoshSherman Member
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posted February 07, 2011 09:47 AM
haha, I tricked you! You thought there were results in here, but this is just a reminder that I'm doing results tomorrow, so you still have time to vote.__________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
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JoshSherman Member
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posted February 08, 2011 07:09 PM
Boo, guys! We were almost done with the main deck and you crapped out on me! Here are the votes I received:Phyrexian Crusader- 4 Mimic Vat- 3 Contagion Engine- 1 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas- 1 I have to be honest, I just don't want to splash blue, so Contagion Engine gets the nod over Tezzeret. I will be adding the following: 3 Phyrexian Crusader 2 Mimic Vat 1 Contagion Engine For the next week, I want to discuss land and sideboard. I'm pretty sure I don't want tmy mana base looking like this: 15 Swamp 4 Tectonic Edge 4 Inkmoth Nexus I think I can get away with cutting a land because I have the Chalices, but I need black mana so I can't do a full complement of both Edge and Nexus. 17/2/4 may work, especially if I use my sideboard slots wisely to be able to beat Valakut. Some sideboard thoughts: Fume Spitter- great against weenie decks Mind Sludge- against control matchups (another reason I want as much B as I can get) Sadistic Sacrament- against Valakut/ other combo Memoricide- I know this gets played over Sacrament, but it can't name Valakut Next Tuesday, I will post the absolute final deck list which I will play at our Standard FNM that Friday. Until then, discuss and vote! __________________ *MafiaBass*Joshweek*Letter Bombs!*Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
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