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Topic: To hoard or not to hoard
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fluffycow
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posted March 02, 2011 12:47 PM
        
So I am one of those people that if I like a card, I will hoard a large number of it. I am sure a lot of you are the same way. This unfortunately creates a problem because since I want an unlimited number of something, at a certain point, I no longer value the card at its current price yet I will not trade away my inventory unless I receive a premium. It is a warped logic but one that is not uncommon. I bring this up because it has brought to my attention that this hoarding is preventing me from getting cards that I might need.Even though I don't play much Legacy, I know that the general consensus is that it's better to have 4x FoW and another 12x FoW worth of Legacy staples than 16x FoW. The logic is simple, you can't build a deck with 16x FoW, but 4x FoW, some wasteland, tops, fetchs and goys, you got about half the deck already. However, I can't get myself to trade away the extras for the stuff I need. For example, I have been looking my last chalice of the void for like 2 years now and I know I can trade one of my 10x something extra sol rings for one without any effort, but I just can't get myself to do it. Can anyone give me a bulletproof logic so my brain can untangle itself and actually go get cards that I can play with rather than hoarding garbage that just collect dust?
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AlmostGrown
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posted March 02, 2011 12:52 PM
I have no answer for your problem, but I collect Serra Angels and Nightmares. Check my sig to see how many I have as of right now!
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Havoc Demon
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posted March 02, 2011 01:00 PM
If you really need something and you have enough spare resources to obtain it within reason, you might as well do it. I don't think there's much of a technical explanation to it other than that.You might have to make your friends drag you to the store and get the cards you need.
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helpmehelpyou
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posted March 02, 2011 01:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXbi_5J-XE8idk lol
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fluffycow
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posted March 02, 2011 01:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by helpmehelpyou:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXbi_5J-XE8idk lol
I am not that crazy, but damn...
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JensK
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posted March 02, 2011 02:39 PM
two years to get a Chalice of the Void? Just buy it then.
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Timmyhill
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posted March 02, 2011 02:52 PM
fluffy it all depends on how much your going to play with the cards you could trade for... I myself have a problem hoarding all the commons I can get, then after tripping over the boxes dump them on ebay every so often and the last time I got $1,100 which is more then enough reason to clear out the closet now and then.
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ScottyStyles
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posted March 02, 2011 03:07 PM
I hoard CoP's, Frogmites, and Ben-Ben Akki Hermits. I don't binder the CoP's anymore, but I still keep the Ben-Bens and Frogmites in my trade binder. The expressions on people's faces going through 20 pages, front to back, of Frogmites is priceless.However, I never let my Frogs get in the way of actually playing. Luckily for me, I do collect cheap cards, not $10 Sol Rings, or $50 dual lands or anything along those lines. I play the game because it's fun. Hoarding adds a component of fun for me, but a bigger component of fun is winning. It is a competitive game, after all.
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AlmostGrown
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posted March 02, 2011 03:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ScottyStyles:
However, I never let my Frogs get in the way of actually playing. Luckily for me, I do collect cheap cards, not $10 Sol Rings, or $50 dual lands or anything along those lines. I play the game because it's fun. Hoarding adds a component of fun for me, but a bigger component of fun is winning. It is a competitive game, after all.
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Volcanon
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posted March 02, 2011 03:49 PM
I hoard Earthquakes and Three Dreams. If you're going to hoard, hoard something cool and cheap. I'd recommend darksteel axes. Much easier to hoard commons than even junky junk rares. One note in general: Those junk rares that are basically worthless to bulk off? If just one out of a thousand ends up a EDH/T1/legacy/EX/T2 hit, you've made profit. Food for thought. (This is exactly why dealers have told me they hate buying my bulk).
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Volcanon on March 02, 2011]
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coolio
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posted March 02, 2011 06:43 PM
hoarding is for amusement.. and wow.. that video was.. unimpressive.. © __________________
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Thanos
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posted March 02, 2011 06:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by coolio:
hoarding is for amusement.. and wow.. that video was.. unimpressive.. ©
I liked it, stop being grumpy  Not everyone can afford to hoard Mana Drains...
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Heresy19
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posted March 02, 2011 06:54 PM
I don't see a problem hoarding cards that will not drop in value and that are easily tradable/sellable... I was hoarding Mox Diamonds and Underground Seas back then... but now, I just keep a playset of everything I need/could use in tournys.So, keep hoarding, but trade some once in a while to get the goods you need to complete a competitive deck. That way, you get a bit of both 
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fluffycow
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posted March 02, 2011 06:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
I hoard Earthquakes and Three Dreams. If you're going to hoard, hoard something cool and cheap. I'd recommend darksteel axes. Much easier to hoard commons than even junky junk rares. One note in general: Those junk rares that are basically worthless to bulk off? If just one out of a thousand ends up a EDH/T1/legacy/EX/T2 hit, you've made profit. Food for thought. (This is exactly why dealers have told me they hate buying my bulk).
I collected pridemages, o ring and ponders, but when a card sees multiple printings, it no longer amuses me, and collecting a crap load of commons/uncommons is just annoying because 100 lightning bolts isn't as impressive as 100 pale moons. I also definitely agree with you on the fact that having the possibility that if the crap rare that you are hoarding takes off then it's like a miini lottery and that also pushes collecting crap rares over collecting crap common/uncommon.
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Originally posted by coolio:
hoarding is for amusement.. and wow.. that video was.. unimpressive.. ©
I was impressed. You gotta have a lot of love before you do something like that (unless you plan on dealing or something)
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Skwirlnutz
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posted March 02, 2011 07:47 PM
I hoard random stupid stuff like cool foil commons/uncommons. Basically if it looks cool foil I will collect it.*EDIT*: I also have every Squirrel card in foil that I can get in foil. I also have over 30 Unglued Squirrel Tokens and about 40 Oddysey Squirrel Tokens.
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nailbunny7
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posted March 02, 2011 07:52 PM
There was this one guy I met once who used to hoard glimpse of nature a couple years ago, back when it was a junk rare. He was sure happy when it took off.
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coolio
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posted March 02, 2011 07:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
*EDIT*: I also have every Squirrel card in foil that I can get in foil. I also have over 30 Unglued Squirrel Tokens and about 40 Oddysey Squirrel Tokens.
got one of these? http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/morganchang/foil_squirrel.jpg © __________________
Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.
-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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stu55
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posted March 02, 2011 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by coolio:
got one of these?http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/morganchang/foil_squirrel.jpg ©
unlikely
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fluffycow
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posted March 02, 2011 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by coolio:
got one of these?http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/morganchang/foil_squirrel.jpg ©
What is that? I can make my own foils too you know
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Thanos
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posted March 02, 2011 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by fluffycow:
What is that? I can make my own foils too you know
Um, I don't think he made that... FYI: http://www.magiclibrarities.net/rarities-crazy-clowns.html Two special token cards, a foil Minion Token and a foil Squirrel Token, were produced in very small quantities and were handed to friends of Arai Jin as a gift.
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joz
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posted March 02, 2011 08:26 PM
I don't exactly "horde" certian cards, but I collect them to a small degree.Hymn to Tourach - two play sets of each art.
Counterspell - several playsets of each set before MM; exluding A/B (cant afford)
Dark Ritual - several playsets of each set before MM; exluding a/b (cant afford)
Ihsan's Shade - 8 homelands; 1 WB (duno where this one comes from.)
Diabolic Edict - lots of them, all of them in my black decks.
Elder Dragon Legends and Legends legends. but thats about it.
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coolio
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posted March 02, 2011 08:27 PM
I didnt make that, thanos posted the link to the story behind them, good luck finding one of those, I only know of that one, that I owned, which I later sold to another collector on this site.enjoy © __________________
Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.
-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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Volcanon
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posted March 02, 2011 08:40 PM
I have 120 Lu Bu Pre-release promos (All the "Japan" version).Maybe I should make a video that nobody will watch about it.
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Skwirlnutz
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posted March 02, 2011 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by coolio:
got one of these?http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/morganchang/foil_squirrel.jpg ©
Nope, what I meant was I have all the foils I could obtain from sets. How much are these tokens?
quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
unlikely
Don't answer for me. You don't know me or what I own.
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coolio
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posted March 02, 2011 08:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Nope, what I meant was I have all the foils I could obtain from sets. How much are these tokens?
the foil one minagishi? you dont wanna know quote:
Don't answer for me. You don't know me or what I own.
in this case, stu'd right, I'd be surprised if anyone else had one of these on this site, so, yes, it'd be very unlikely for you to have one. © __________________
Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.
-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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