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I guess my Leyline of Anticipation tech wasn't so secret :-P

But if I DO win with maindeck Moonlace, I'm king forever :-)

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Originally posted by coinmagic45:
So many FoW's!!!!!

I guess my Leyline of Anticipation tech wasn't so secret :-P

But if I DO win with maindeck Moonlace, I'm king forever :-)

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Originally posted by Myy:
hey yaku, coinmagic is cheating, he forgot to use the Trainned orgg. !

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I can't use all my tech in the same round! Don't worry, they'll be here soon ;-) (as soon as I come up with a good thing to use them for, that is...)

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17 0 2 6 0 6 6 6 6 2 02 06 02 02 06 00 00 XX 00 06 58

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1. yakusoku - I was afraid of this deck. Chalice does nothing. Bridge shuts down Arbor. Tongs wins. LL

2. Magic1264 - Arbors trade. DD

3. mattw - Chalice stops Lotus and I win. WW

4. SageShadows - Inkmoth Nexus > Arbor. LL

5. Alexisonfyre - Chalice stops Lotus and I win. WW

6. Jtrade77 - If he uses his Leyline, he can't FoW and I counter his Lotus. If he doesn't use it, then I play Chalice and it stops Lotus. WW

7. WCFmo - If he uses his Leyline, he can't FoW and I counter his Lotus. If he doesn't use it, then I play Chalice and it stops Lotus. WW

8. TimeBeing - I counter Lotus and win. WW

9. Carbon - I play Chalice, he FoW's, I FoW, he FoW's. Then Memnite and Arbor trade. DD

10. s14sh3r - Arbors trade. DD

11. LemonMeringue - Chalice stops Lotus and I win. WW

12. Myy - I play Chalice, he FoW's, I FoW, he FoW's. Then Memnite and Arbor trade. DD

13. AGO - I don't play Leyline so I can pitch it to FoW. I can counter his Drifter but then lose my creature to Paralyze. DD

14. thror - Chalice stops Lotus and I win. WW

15. Zakman86 - That's just mean. LL

16. Liq - Strip Mine > Arbor. LL

18. alphastorm - I can't beat Trinisphere. LL

19. ScottyStyles - Chalice stops Lotus. WW

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Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs
Scalding Tongs

2. Magic1264 DD

Force of Will
Force of Will
Force of Will
Force of Will
Dryad Arbor

3. mattw WW

Black Lotus
Forest
Thrun, the Last Troll
Force of Will
Force of Will

4. SageShadows LL

City of Traitors
Inkmoth Nexus
Inkmoth Nexus
Manabond
Pendelhaven

5. Alexisonfyre WW

Black Lotus
Indentured Djinn
Kira, Great Glass Spinner
Force of Will
Force of WIll

6. Jtrade77 WW

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation

7. WCFmo WW

Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation
Black Lotus
Channel
Emrakul, the Aeons TOrn

8. TimeBeing WW

Leyline of Anticipation
Black Lotus
Mox Ruby
Channel
Banefire

9. Carbon DD

Memnite
Misdirection
Misdirection
Force of Will
Force of Will

10. s14sh3r DD

Force of Will
Force of Will
Commandeer
Misdirection
Dryad Arbor

11. LemonMeringue WW

Force of Will
Show and Tell
Gilded Drake
Form of the Dragon
Black Lotus

12. Myy Xx

Force of Will
Misdirection
Force of Will
Misdirection
Memnite

13. AGO WD

Underground Sea
Paralyze
Force Spike
Drifter il-Dal
Inquisition of Kozilek

14. thror WW

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Blightsteel Colossus
Force of Will
Snapback

15. Zakman86 LL

Inkmoth Nexus
Forest
Invigorate
Invigorate
Invigorate

16. Liq DD

Force of Will
Misdirection
Dryad Arbor
The Rack
Strip Mine

17. coinmagic45 DD

Dryad Arbor
Chalice of the Void
Leyline of Anticipation
Force of Will
Moonlace

18. alphastorm DD

Gate to the Reikai
Eater of Days
Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Smokestack

19. ScottyStyles WW

Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Artisan of Kozilek

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
12 0 2 6 0 6 6 6 6 2 02 06 xX 04 06 00 02 02 02 06 64

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
11 6 0 6 3 2 2 2 6 0 0  ?? 0  6  6  0  6  0  0  6  51

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1. yakusoku - WW - I FOW the trinisphere and form of the dragon completely ignores the other cards.

Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs
Scalding Tongs

2. Magic1264 - LL - I get beatdown by arbor

Force of Will
Force of Will
Force of Will
Force of Will
Dryad Arbor

3. mattw - WW - Form beats Thrun

Black Lotus
Forest
Thrun, the Last Troll
Force of Will
Force of Will

4. SageShadows - WL If I go first form wins the race, if I go 2nd I think I lose the race.

City of Traitors
Inkmoth Nexus
Inkmoth Nexus
Manabond
Pendelhaven

5. Alexisonfyre - DD - If you play a creature, then I can get form through your single force that is left. If I try to play lotus, you can double force.

Black Lotus
Kira, Great Glass Spinner
Indentured Djinn
Force of Will
Force of WIll

6. Jtrade77 - DD - Whoever casts show and tell loses.

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation

7. WCFmo - DD - If you hardcast Emrakul, I can take 15, black lotus for gilded drake to steal your emrakul, FOW for 1 life, take 3 damage from the drake (emrakul is tapped) and win with 1 life. If I play show and tell, you win since emrakul has flying.

Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation
Black Lotus
Channel
Emrakul, the Aeons TOrn

8. TimeBeing - WW - FoW black lotus

Leyline of Anticipation
Black Lotus
Mox Ruby
Channel
Banefire

9. Carbon - LL - FOW'd

Memnite
Misdirection
Misdirection
Force of Will
Force of Will

10. s14sh3r - LL - Too much fow

Force of Will
Force of Will
Commandeer
Misdirection
Dryad Arbor

11. LemonMeringue

Force of Will
Show and Tell
Gilded Drake
Form of the Dragon
Black Lotus

12. Myy - LL - Memnite beatdown

Force of Will
Misdirection
Force of Will
Misdirection
Memnite

13. AGO WW - If you go first I can FOW inquisition or FOW Force spike. If I go first Form wins immediately. Daze would have been better than force spike

Underground Sea
Paralyze
Force Spike
Drifter il-Dal
Inquisition of Kozilek

14. thror - WW - Either gilded drake or form of the dragon beats blightsteel, regardless of which of us casts show and tell.

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Blightsteel Colossus
Force of Will
Snapback

15. Zakman86 - LL - Invigorate is ridiculous tech haha I lose

Inkmoth Nexus
Forest
Invigorate
Invigorate
Invigorate

16. Liq - WW - I can force Form through, which wins

Force of Will
Misdirection
Dryad Arbor
The Rack
Strip Mine

17. coinmagic45 - LL - Chalice wins

Dryad Arbor
Chalice of the Void
Leyline of Anticipation
Force of Will
Moonlace

18. alphastorm LL - I can't start anything because show and tell loses. If I FoW trinisphere, he casts Reikei, then eater of days. I can steal it, but lose to smokestack and then the spirit token.

Gate to the Reikai
Eater of Days
Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Smokestack

19. ScottyStyles - WW - I can FOW one black lotus

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    ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
    06 0 0 6 6 2 X 2 6 0 00 _2 00 _6 _6 _6 _6 00 _6 _6 ?Total? = 60

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Anyway:
6. Jtrade77

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation

vs 1 -- yakosoku 0pts can't attack...

vs 2,9,10,12 -- loss, double counter beats me

vs 3,16 -- win, force his force, emrakul beats

vs 4, 15, 19 -- win, Emrakul beats down with instant speed thanks to Leyline!

vs 5 == draw, I force a force, he forces show and tell, stalemate

vs 7 -- If he uses his leyline, he can't force and I draw by forcing his channel, so he must hold it.

Emrakul is a legend, meaning if I Show and Tell, it gets legends ruled and nothing happens. The best I can get is a draw.

On my play, I do nothing.
On his play he uses channel and forces my force, giving him Emrakul and an extra turn. He hits for 15, I have no perms anyway.
Then on my turn, I play Lotus and Show and Tell my own Emrakul, killing both with the legends rule, making it a draw at five life each.

vs 8, I force of will his channel, win both times

vs 11, LemonMeringue

Force of Will
Show and Tell
Gilded Drake -- triggered ability can target Emrakul
Form of the Dragon -- does not matter, Emrakul flies
Black Lotus

Staredown stalemate 2pts.

Oracle Text of Show and Tell (sorcery): Each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card from his or her hand onto the battlefield.

Comp Rule 101.4. If multiple players would make choices and/or take actions at the same time, the active player (the player whose turn it is) makes any choices required, then the next player in turn order (usually the player seated to the active player's left) makes any choices required, followed by the remaining nonactive players in turn order. Then the actions happen simultaneously. This rule is often referred to as the "Active Player, Nonactive Player (APNAP) order" rule.

Since he can only cast Show and Tell as a Sorcery, he must always reveal if he is choosing Drake or Form FIRST. This allows me to ignore the Drake (self-sac if no exchange) or put down Emrakul to beat Form. Thus he cannot cast it.

If I use my Leyline to get around this rule by using it as instant, he can Force of Will my Show and Tell on his turn. Then he is back not being able to cast his Show and Tell.

I cannot cast Show and Tell, because I will always be choosing Emrakul, allowing him to choose Gilded Drake.

13 -- win. both games lotus, S & T Emrakul via leyline, he can't spike it. It beats drifters and has protection from colored spells (Paralyze is black).

14 -- 6pts my win
Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Blightsteel Colossus
Force of Will
Snapback (not relevant, colored spells cannot target Emrakul)

I hold Leyline and cast show and tell on my turn. I Force his Force. His 12/12 infect is blocked by my 15/15 guy. My guy is 3/3, it attacks with Annihlate, the opponent sacs his 12/12 indestructible. I win.

If he casts show and Tell, I let it resolve, then attack first and make him sac. If he Snaps his own guy, it doesn't hit the table again.

17 coinmagic45
Dryad Arbor
Chalice of the Void
Leyline of Anticipation
Force of Will
Moonlace

His play will always be to Leyline, Chalice for zero. If I lay my own Leyline too, he can Force my Lotus. If I don't, I can't cast my lotus. My loss

18. alphastorm
Gate to the Reikai
Eater of Days
Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Smokestack

13 -- win. both games lotus, S & T Emrakul via leyline, he can't spike it. It beats drifters and has protection from colored spells (Paralyze is black).

He can put paralyze into play as part of show and tell. If an aura just comes into play, it does not target, and is not a spell anymore once it hits the table. Paralyze stops emrakul.

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
08 6 0 0 6 0 0 0 x 0 00 00 00 06 00 06 00 00 06 06 36

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
14 0 0 6 6 2 0 0 6 0 00 00 00 04 xx 06 06 00 00 06 36 -- Did i lose?

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1 vs Yaku
Casting S&T is my only way to win, and if i do he drops ensnaring bridge and i cant attack. LL

2 vs Magic.
Too many fows. LL

3 vs Matt
I show, he fows, I fow back. Colossus >> Thrun. WW

4 vs Sage
He kills in, 4 turns? I kill in 2, max. WW

5 vs Alex
If i show, he fows. i fow back, and he fows again. No win conditions left, Draw. If he plays a dude, i get a blightsteel and crush him. So all he can do is mise. DD

6 vs Jtrade
The cursed emrakul matchup. I cant win unless i cast show, and then i cant beat an emmy. LL

7 vs Wcfmo
Still cant beat an emmy. Especially when hardcast. LL

8 vs Time
I fow the lotus, he cant do anything. WW

9 vs Carbon
Double fow, and i die to a 1/1, years later. LL

10 vs Slasher.
see #9. LL

11 vs Lemon
If i cast Show, he gets a drake, fows my bounce spell, i lose, so i dont do that. If he casts show, i fow, he fows back, he gets form, i lose. LL

12 vs Myy
Same as 9. LL

13 vs Ago
black lotus, show and tell, Colossus vs Il dal. If he inkoz, i snap his guy and kill him, if he paralyzes i fow it. On the draw, he plays Island, inkoz. If i force it, i lose to paralyze, so i let it resolve. he takes Show, then i fow his drifter. Win/draw.

15 vs Zak
If he ever tries to pump his guy, i just bounce it. WW

16 vs Liq
Only 1 fow. WW

17 vs Coin
Cant cast lotus. LL

18 vs alpha
I show, he gets a stack. his stack goes to 1, then i lose my dude. If i wait, he casts trini, which i fow. then i show, he gets a stack, and i lose. LL

19 vs Scotty
I show, you get Iona. You attack (13), make 2nd dude. I attack, you chump. You attack (6), i attack and you die. Or you go first, i fow lotus #3. Then i show, you get 1 dude, i win even faster. WW

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1. yakusoku - LL

Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs
Scalding Tongs

2. Magic1264 - WW

Force of Will
Force of Will
Force of Will
Force of Will
Dryad Arbor

3. mattw - WW

Black Lotus
Forest
Thrun, the Last Troll
Force of Will
Force of Will

4. SageShadows - LL

City of Traitors
Inkmoth Nexus
Inkmoth Nexus
Manabond
Pendelhaven

5. Alexisonfyre - WW

Black Lotus
Indentured Djinn
Kira, Great Glass Spinner
Force of Will
Force of WIll

6. Jtrade77 LL

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation

7. WCFmo - LL

Force of Will
Leyline of Anticipation
Black Lotus
Channel
Emrakul, the Aeons TOrn

8. TimeBeing LL

Leyline of Anticipation
Black Lotus
Mox Ruby
Channel
Banefire

9. Carbon WW

Memnite
Misdirection
Misdirection
Force of Will
Force of Will

10. s14sh3r WW

Force of Will
Force of Will
Commandeer
Misdirection
Dryad Arbor

11. LemonMeringue - WW, I think? He S&Ts Form of the Dragon in, Forces 1 Invigorate, Swing for 9 one turn and 1 the next. He can't bring in Gilded Drake because it sacs itself because I run no creatures.

Force of Will
Show and Tell
Gilded Drake
Form of the Dragon
Black Lotus

12. Myy WW

Force of Will
Misdirection
Force of Will
Misdirection
Memnite

13. AGO WW

Underground Sea
Paralyze
Force Spike
Drifter il-Dal
Inquisition of Kozilek

14. thror LL

Black Lotus
Show and Tell
Blightsteel Colossus
Force of Will
Snapback

15. Zakman86 XX

Inkmoth Nexus
Forest
Invigorate
Invigorate
Invigorate

16. Liq - LL

Force of Will
Misdirection
Dryad Arbor
The Rack
Strip Mine

17. coinmagic45 - WW

Dryad Arbor
Chalice of the Void
Leyline of Anticipation
Force of Will
Moonlace

18. alphastorm - LL

Gate to the Reikai
Eater of Days
Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Smokestack

19. ScottyStyles - LL

Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Artisan of Kozilek

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Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
Hey thror, you made the same mistake as I pointed out above, against ago if you show and tell a creature, he puts paralyze into play and taps it down forever, so you can't play show and tell.

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Misread paralyze. Thought it said 'pay four life', not 'pay (4)'.

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[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for?
[16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted

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Originally posted by TimeBeing:

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
08 6 0 0 6 0 0 0 x 0 00 00 00 06 00 06 00 00 06 00 36

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Mine is easy. If you have FoW I lose if you don't I win. (from what I can tell)

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5 wins, at 6 points each, is only 30 points. Check again?

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
01 X 6 6 6 6 6 0 0 6 06 00 06 04 06 06 00 06 00 06 76

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1. yakusoku XX

Mishra's Workshop
Trinisphere
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs
Scalding Tongs

2. Magic1264 WW

I play Trinisphere which he must counter or else all his non-land spells can't be played. After that, I can resolve any two of the other three spells and win either by racing with two Tongs or by stopping the Arbor with Ensnaring Bridge.

3. mattw WW

He was to Force Trinisphere, then I can resolve Ensnaring Bridge and Scalding Tongs to win.

4. SageShadows WW.

On the play, I have first turn Trinisphere, second turn Scalding Tongs, third turn Scalding Tongs, fourth turn Bridge and he can't give me 10 poison counters before then. On the play:

SS: Pendelhaven, Manabond, put three other lands onto the battlefield
yak: Shop, Tongs
SS: attack for 3
yak: Tongs
SS: attack for 3
yak: Bridge
SS: attack for 3
yak: Trinisphere

I survive at 9 poison counters!

5. Alexisonfyre WW

If he plays a creature, I lead off with Trinisphere, which he must counter, then I play Bridge and two Tongs and win. If he doesn't play a creature, I lead off with Trinisphere, which he counters, Tongs which he counters, then second Tongs, at which point, he's left with just Lotus, so I win.

6. Jtrade77 WW. If he plays Show and Tell, I put Bridge into play, then I can lead with Trinisphere and play two Tongs. If he doesn't play Show and Tell, I still lead with Trinisphere, which he has to Force, then I play two Tongs to win.

7. WCFmo LL. On the play, he holds back Force for either Trinisphere or Bridge, then on his turn, he plays Black Lotus, Channel, and casts Emrakul, which lets him win.

8. TimeBeing LL. I don't have Force of Will,so I lose to this deck. He kills me before I can play anything both games.

9. Carbon WW. This plays out like #2. Trinisphere eats a counter and he allows either two Tongs or a Tongs and a Bridge to resolve and loses.

10. s14sh3r WW. This is slightly different, but still plays out the same. I lead off with Trinisphere, which he has to Force. If he Commandeers, I can still play everything in my hand just fine. From there, two Tongs or a Tong and a Bridge is enough to win.

11. LemonMeringue LL. I can't stop Form, which deals non-combat damage to me to kill me.

12. Myy WW. Trinisphere gets countered, then I win with two Tongs or a Tongs and a Bridge.

13. AGO WD. On the play, I play first turn Trinisphere and he can't do anything but play a land. On the draw, we both stare and do nothing. If he plays Inquisition first (taking Trinisphere), I resolve Bridge and one of two Tongs to win. If he plays Drifter first, I resolve Trinisphere, then Bridge, then both Tongs to win. If he plays nothing, I also play nothing, waiting for him. If I play Trinisphere or Bridge, he can Force Spike it, Inquisition the other and race Drifter and survive at 1, so neither of us do anything.

14. thror WW. If he plays Show and Tell, I have Bridge, then I can lead off with Trinisphere, which he Forces, then resolve Tongs. If he doesn't play Show and Tell, I still lead off with Trinisphere, which he forces, then resovle Bridge and Tongs.

15. Zakman86 WW. I play Trinisphere, which stops Invigorate, then I play two Tongs, getting poisoned, but not lethal before I play Bridge with 0 cards in hand to stop the attacks.

16. Liq LL. Strip Mine + Force of Will is bad news for me. Whatever I play first, he Forces, then plays Strip Mine on my land. Dryad Arbor comes out and wins after that.

17. coinmagic45 WW. Chalice does nothing, Moon lace does nothing, Leyline does nothing. Force of Will stops Trinisphere, then I play out the rest of my hand and win.

18. alphastorm LL. Trinispheres on both sides do nothing but act as fodder for Smokestack, which eventually kills me. Eater of Days means it really doesn't matter if I'm going first or second, except that I get a few more points in before Smokestack makes me lose. He'll keep Smokestack back until I play Bridge to stop his Eater of Days.

He can let Smokestack sit 1 counter and win:

alphastorm: Workshop, Trinisphere
yak: Workshop, Trinisphere
alphastorm: Gate, Eater of Days
yak: Bridge
alphastorm: Smokestack
yak: Tongs
alphastorm: 1 counter
yak: lose Trinisphere, Tongs
alphastorm: lose Trinisphere
yak: lose Shop
alphastorm: lose Shop
yak: lose Tongs
alphastorm: lose Eater
yak: lose Bridge
alphastorm: lose Gate
yak: lose Tongs
alphastorm: lose Stack, attack for 1; he wins.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
Awesome prediction of the meta...

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quote:

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Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
Hey thror, you made the same mistake as I pointed out above, against ago if you show and tell a creature, he puts paralyze into play and taps it down forever, so you can't play show and tell.

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That's not a legal play. Both enter the battlefield simultaneously, but you need to choose a creature for an Aura as it comes into play, at which time the creature chosen for Show and Tell is NOT something the Aura can enchant.

As for my deck, I figured there would be a bajillion Force of Will and Black Lotus decks out there, so I wanted something that was better than a coin flip or a DD against such decks. I figured this was the best deck to do that with. I almost played the same thing, but with a Chalice of the Void instead of a second Scalding Tongs, but figured I wanted to be sure to be able to beat double Force of Will decks, by having Trinisphere, Tongs, and second Tongs to force at least one spell through.

coinmagic45 brought it up, but no one has mentioned it since - is there any other support for only banning cards in the winning decks or should we stick with banning cards that are present in over 1/3rd of all decks, regardless of whether it wins or not. It's possible this round that a deck with neither Black Lotus nor Force of Will will win, yet both of those cards are played in such quantities that they would be banned on the 1/3rd rule. I am not in favor of changing the current rule, but I will certainly listen to what the majority say and give great weight to the general consensus. In the past, I've changed how things work with Mishra's Workshop because of what most people thought.

quote:

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Originally posted by thror:

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## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOTAL
08 6 0 0 6 0 0 0 x 0 00 00 00 06 00 06 00 00 06 00 36

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Mine is easy. If you have FoW I lose if you don't I win. (from what I can tell) </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

5 wins, at 6 points each, is only 30 points. Check again?

Missed a win vs 19 so it right at 36. And i fixed it. Thanks for the catch. What i get for doing it on my ipad

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I am down with the current ban suggestions, FoW and black lotus can go as far as I'm concerned.

quote:

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Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
FoW and black lotus can go as far as I'm concerned.

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+1 .

quote:

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Originally posted by Myy:
+1 .

You only get 1 chance to break something. next round we should see a new variety of decks.

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I'm fine with that. I don't like FoW, but I think having Black Lotus legal could lead to some really interesting decks! That's okay, though - I'll come up with some other way to abuse Moonlace :-)

yaku, nice meta call! I tried the same with Leyline + Chalice. I figured most decks would Lotus into something huge. I didn't expect so many FoW + Memnite/Arbor decks that I DD against. I was hoping to beat all big Lotus decks and lose to Workshop, but then the big Lotus decks would WL against the Workshop decks, and I'd still come out on top! Oh well, at least I played Moonlace ;-)

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