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Topic: # of Champs Mutavaults?
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Armitageiii112
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posted April 06, 2011 06:48 AM
      
Hey guys, The real reason I want to ask this question is I was looking over ebay and found some of these. I got some from a seller and was just recently looking for some more on ebay. (I know their history in that there are not that many ever made) I found the same seller selling them and got curious. Look at their sell history:]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=fashi onposse&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true My question is, how on earth did this person get so many? Just wanted to hear some opinions.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Armitageiii112 on April 06, 2011]
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joz
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posted April 06, 2011 07:01 AM
Two is allot? __________________
Bargain is not to powerful for EDH, EDH is to weak for Bargain!
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Armitageiii112
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posted April 06, 2011 07:11 AM
There is 15. lol
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joz
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posted April 06, 2011 07:22 AM
He probably brought/traded for them while they where somewhat cheaper? He was a tournament/FNM cordinator or shop employee with access to extras? Any number of reasons to have (15); which is not that many. __________________
Bargain is not to powerful for EDH, EDH is to weak for Bargain!
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stu55
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posted April 06, 2011 07:28 AM
More than 15, I think some were given away at some event at Nationals in the US or something like that.
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Armitageiii112
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posted April 06, 2011 07:32 AM
I understand that there was more than 15 printed. I thought roughly 1,000. But this single person has 15 + more. I messaged her and she said that her boss just tells her to put them on ebay as he gets them from someone at WoTC.
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Myy
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posted April 06, 2011 07:35 AM
 
this guy has more than 15 or there are more than 15 IN the world.  EDIT: Ok that was answered. 
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Myy on April 06, 2011]
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urza187
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posted April 06, 2011 08:12 AM
Easily over 15. I know I went to a PTQ in Chicago during Lorwyn Block Constructed and they gave one away to each of the top 8 people (I know, I made top 8). They also were going to do another Mutavault tourney a few weeks after that too IIRC. So, that, including the non-U.S. states/champs, there are quite a bit more than 15 floating around. It's probably hard to find because of the collectors :-\
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coolio
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posted April 06, 2011 08:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Two is allot?
what is it with you and idiotic posts spamming up the boards? © __________________
Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.
-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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stu55
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posted April 06, 2011 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by joz:
Two is allot?
Can we bans him yet?
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coasterdude84
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posted April 06, 2011 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Armitageiii112:
I understand that there was more than 15 printed. I thought roughly 1,000. But this single person has 15 + more. I messaged her and she said that her boss just tells her to put them on ebay as he gets them from someone at WoTC.
I have no knowledge as to what the actual print run was for them, but if we assume your numbers are correct, that wouldn't surprise me. It's not at all uncommon for rarer cards to clump up in single collection, especially if it's a dealer.
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Havoc Demon
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posted April 06, 2011 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Armitageiii112:
My question is, how on earth did this person get so many? Just wanted to hear some opinions.
He/she probably tried to grab as many as possible when they first came out. I'm impressed too, as I haven't even seen five of these in person, let alone 10-15+ __________________
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Armitageiii112
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posted April 06, 2011 12:35 PM
I don't understand either. Thanks for replies
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airwalk
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posted April 06, 2011 01:15 PM
I remember someone on here saying ~180 of them were printed but have no idea if that claim is close to true.
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caquaa
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posted April 06, 2011 02:47 PM
They were intended for use at states. I'm sure a whole lot more then that were printed, just not handed out. There is likely some tucked away somewhere.
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MTDetermine
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posted April 06, 2011 11:04 PM
After rotating out of T2, there was a period of a few months where Mutavault were ~$10 each. In that period, I saw a few of this full art foil Mutavault put on sale on MOTL, but not many people were interested then. If you are a dealer/collector out to buy this full art foil Mutavault during that "lull period" for Mutavaults, I am sure you can easily buy 10-20 pieces cheaply (relative to today's price). Problem of MTG is, when a card price is falling or stagnant, on one wants to buy as everyone seems to think they will drop even further. When card prices are increasing, few want to sell as many seem to think prices will go up even further.
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Default User
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posted April 07, 2011 12:55 AM
These Mutavaults were printed as States prizes before the decision that States would be cancelled in US. This suggests that there should be about as many of these printed as there are Niv Mizzets or Dorans. WotC just didn't hand them out, except in Europe and for some premier level TO's as additional prizes for other events. Originally few hundred (~400) were awarded to other countries State top 8's and maybe 100+ as additional prizes in US. So WotC still should have quite a pile of these left.I personally have declined to buy these for my promo collection yet, as I believe these will get the Crystalline Sliver treatment at some point. Of course I might be wrong and need to shell 200$ at some point, but I doubt that. Old promos always surface at some point.
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coolio
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posted April 07, 2011 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by Default User:
These Mutavaults were printed as States prizes before the decision that States would be cancelled in US. This suggests that there should be about as many of these printed as there are Niv Mizzets or Dorans. WotC just didn't hand them out, except in Europe and for some premier level TO's as additional prizes for other events. Originally few hundred (~400) were awarded to other countries State top 8's and maybe 100+ as additional prizes in US. So WotC still should have quite a pile of these left.I personally have declined to buy these for my promo collection yet, as I believe these will get the Crystalline Sliver treatment at some point. Of course I might be wrong and need to shell 200$ at some point, but I doubt that. Old promos always surface at some point.
difference being.. the slivers were an fnm promo, vs mutavaults, which were originally designated as a t8 states promo © __________________
Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong.
-Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
-Seneca the Younger
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Eatatjoes
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posted April 07, 2011 08:21 AM
Not to mention most of the original fnm crystalline slivers were stolen property. That is why wizards decided to reprint them, since people on the secondary market were making 80 to 100 bucks on them at there peek.
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Armitageiii112
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posted April 07, 2011 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Eatatjoes:
Not to mention most of the original fnm crystalline slivers were stolen property. That is why wizards decided to reprint them, since people on the secondary market were making 80 to 100 bucks on them at there peek.
Well someone is making a killing off these mutavaults right now. Someone is getting these from WoTC she said...
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Eatatjoes
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posted April 07, 2011 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Armitageiii112:
Well someone is making a killing off these mutavaults right now. Someone is getting these from WoTC she said...
I could beleive it, not like it hasnt happend before...
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caquaa
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posted April 07, 2011 12:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Eatatjoes:
Not to mention most of the original fnm crystalline slivers were stolen property. That is why wizards decided to reprint them, since people on the secondary market were making 80 to 100 bucks on them at there peek.
but they weren't reprinted...
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Thanos
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posted April 07, 2011 12:55 PM
I bought one off them a few months back, couldn't find them anywhere else.
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stu55
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posted April 07, 2011 01:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Eatatjoes:
Not to mention most of the original fnm crystalline slivers were stolen property. That is why wizards decided to reprint them, since people on the secondary market were making 80 to 100 bucks on them at there peek.
That's actually wrong. I sold several extra copies I had or may not have had at $250 easily.
There were only 40 out there. So, they were pretty rare. Its like the first DCI Disenchant foil going for $1000s
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mm1983
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posted April 07, 2011 05:34 PM
Which US tournaments gave these Mutavault promos out as prizes? I thought these were only given out in Either Japan or England or both.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by mm1983 on April 07, 2011]
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