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Topic: High Tide - Candelabra of Tawnos Combo
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Joe Planeswalker Member
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posted April 13, 2011 08:44 AM

Hey guys Im a bit of a noob to magic and especially in legacy/vintage cards. Can someone explain how using these two cards + one or two others gives you infinite mana in this new high tide deck thats been owning everyone lately. I cant remember the other necessary cards for this combo but im hoping someone can shed some light on this for me. Thanks for the help.
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joz Banned
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posted April 13, 2011 08:49 AM

Theres a few different ways:Palinchron that one wizard artifact guy that has 2u: untap target artifact. etc.. I'm not sure what the actual legacy decks are using, I don't pay attention to those that much. But googling it could bring your answer. __________________ Bargain is not to powerful for EDH, EDH is to weak for Bargain!
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AGO Member
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posted April 13, 2011 08:53 AM
  
This deck dosen't make infinite mana just a lot of it. You win with either a Brain Freeze, Stroke of Genius or hard casting Emrakul. You definatly don't need to go infinite to win. If you have never played this deck then you should probably try the pauper version as it is less money intensive. Also the deck dosen't even need candelabra. It's all just hype. It works fine without. Candelabra is just another untap effect to produce more mana.
One more thing I keep forgeting is that Stroke has now been replaced by Blue Sun's Zenith so that it gets shuffled back in. A minor improvement but none the less an improvement.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by AGO on April 13, 2011]
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PortlisX Member
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posted April 13, 2011 08:54 AM

I don't even play Magic much any more, but this combo is about as straight forward as any in Magic. What do you not understand about it?High Tide gives you 2 mana instead of 1 when tapping your islands for a turn. Candelabra allows you to untap your islands on that turn for the cost of 1 mana. Edit: See, you learn something new every day. Combo is still pretty easy to understand though. Just produces a metric butt ton of mana instead of infinite =P
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PortlisX on April 13, 2011]
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James_Hetfield2 Member
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posted April 13, 2011 08:55 AM
  
Candelabra is a mono artifcat, so taps when used.AGO has it right.
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AGO Member
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posted April 13, 2011 09:01 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by PortlisX: I don't even play Magic much any more, but this combo is about as straight forward as any in Magic. What do you not understand about it?High Tide gives you 2 mana instead of 1 when tapping your islands for a turn. Candelabra allows you to untap your islands indefinitely on that turn for the cost of 1 mana. Rinse, repeat.
One candelabra dosen't allow you to untap indefinatly. I think people misunderstand this card. You have to tap Candelabra to use it. It's not that great of a card. It's just that one guy plays it in a deck that tops 8 and eveyone screams SUPER SECRET TECH GOTTA HAVE THAT NETDECK CANDELABRA WON THE GAME.
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mchainmail Member
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posted April 13, 2011 09:58 AM

Capsize can combo infinitely with it.
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted April 13, 2011 10:13 AM

It's worth noting that the version of Solidarity that runs Candelabra, Blue Sun's Zenith, and Timetwister is much more consistent than older versions of the deck. For one thing, it doesn't fizzle out nearly as much--in fact, I've yet to encounter one that fizzled out, whereas you can often count on the older version of Solidarity to beat itself. On the other hand, given the cost of the cards (Candelabra and Timetwister), it may well be a tradeoff you're willing to make.__________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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Volcanon Member
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posted April 13, 2011 10:28 AM

Candelabra can untap itself if it's a land yo. All you have to do is animate it with March of the Machines, then have Imagecrafter tap to make it a Saproling. Then cast Life and Limb, making it a 1/1 Artifact Creature Land - Saproling Forest. Then play high tide and infy your way to victory.
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Havoc Demon Member
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posted April 13, 2011 11:07 AM

quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: Candelabra can untap itself if it's a land yo. All you have to do is animate it with March of the Machines, then have Imagecrafter tap to make it a Saproling. Then cast Life and Limb, making it a 1/1 Artifact Creature Land - Saproling Forest. Then play high tide and infy your way to victory.
Ha, now March of the Machines and Life and Limb will jump to $10 each. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 85th All-timeSupport my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
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thror Member
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posted April 13, 2011 12:24 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen: It's worth noting that the version of Solidarity that runs Candelabra, Blue Sun's Zenith, and Timetwister is much more consistent
Timetwister is banned in Legacy still. You mean Time Spiral? __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted April 13, 2011 12:30 PM

quote: Originally posted by thror: Timetwister is banned in Legacy still. You mean Time Spiral?
Yup, thanks for correcting me. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted April 13, 2011 01:01 PM

it makes a ton of mana in conjunction with mind over matter and all the card draw the deck has with cards like time-spiral.
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Joe Planeswalker Member
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posted April 13, 2011 01:50 PM

Well that makes it much easier to understand, now that i realize that it doesnt go infinite. Thanks to everyone that responded (minus portlisX, that wasnt helpful what so ever). My confusion was with that fact that I knew Candelabra tapped so I couldn't figure out what I was missing. Thanks again everyone.
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Bugger Member
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posted April 13, 2011 02:16 PM

quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: Candelabra can untap itself if it's a land yo. All you have to do is animate it with March of the Machines, then have Imagecrafter tap to make it a Saproling. Then cast Life and Limb, making it a 1/1 Artifact Creature Land - Saproling Forest. Then play high tide and infy your way to victory.
Psh, what a scrub. Use Magus of the Candelabra, thus rendering March of the Machines unnecessary and freeing up 4 more slots in your deck for countermagic or tutors. Super secret tech!1!11!!!1! __________________ "Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost." -- Ronald Reagan
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