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Topic: Shipping Costs on Magic trades
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Link139232
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posted May 03, 2011 02:30 PM
        
This may not be the right place for it, but... How do people selling cards only charge like 2-3 dollars for shipping? I went to the post office to send about 25 cards, and I bought a bubble mailer there, which was about $1.29, then I got the free insurance, and delivery confirmation, and my total was $3.80. Am I doing something wrong? Did they screw me at the post office, or do people just not care about losing a dollar or two on the trade and pay for shipping themselves?
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thror
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posted May 03, 2011 02:36 PM
Buying the bubble mailer there was your biggest mistake. For people that plan to do a lot of trades, buy them in bulk on ebay. It works out to be about 10-20c per bubble mailer. Also, because of the # of cards you sent, the package probably went into the next weight bracket. If you only send 1-6 cards, postage is about $1, and delivery confirmation is 80 cents. About $2 total. __________________
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by thror on May 03, 2011]
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iccarus
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posted May 03, 2011 02:46 PM
Agree with thror. You should be able to send a moderate number of cards for under $3. Buying bubble mailers in bulk is the biggest way to cut costs.For smaller trades you can still use a plain white envelope to cut costs. That still should be sent non-machineable though, but I almost never send that way anymore. I still dislike when I get $10+ cards in a PWE. __________________
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 02:52 PM
For smaller trades and less valuable cards; a regular envelope is fine. Just package the cards in slip-ins and then wrap and tape it up into a piece of thick paper (or two pieces of regular printer paper) this prevents the edges of the slip-ins from tearing the envelope. This is the cost of an envelope + stamp ($.50)For larger trades and more valuable cards; use bubblemailers; you can buy these bulk cheap. Its just more expensive to ship these; but the average cost is $1.40 for that. Spending an extra buck or two just to send cards sometimes is a pain; but its worth it sometimes as well. I personaly skip trades were the combined card value is less then twice the shipping cost. __________________
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Link139232
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posted May 03, 2011 02:56 PM
Oh alright thanks for the help 
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bigbob585
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posted May 03, 2011 02:59 PM
As a shop I use a shipping program that allows me to ship up to about 40 cards in a bubble mailer with DC for $1.75.I also use a 3rd party insurance company that costs less than USPS without having to go through all the hassle. Get coin envelopes and packing tape if you want to ship more without the worry. You can fit about 16-20 cards and a top loader without worrying about it breaking.
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Liq
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posted May 03, 2011 03:01 PM
That was a bit steep for a bubble mailer. Most chain stores like Wal-Mart have them for 60-80 cents apiece. As stated by others if you buy bulk online, you can reduce that to 10 cents.It costs about $1.50 to ship one of these at the USPS. $2.50 if you add DC and its 3/8's of inch policy. You can ship up to about 50 cards in them. At worst, there's nothing cheaper than the 50 cent Plain White Envelope (total cost) which can hold 4 cards (plus toploader) before needing more postage. __________________
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Heresy19
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posted May 03, 2011 03:10 PM
For Canadians, bubble mailers are 5 for a buck at the dollarma.... but D.C. is like 14-15$ 
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Heresy19:
For Canadians, bubble mailers are 5 for a buck at the dollarma.... but D.C. is like 14-15$
...That sounds excessive? I'm not an expert in economy, but last I checked the Canadian Dollar did not equal ten american cents...unless I'm wrong. __________________
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mattw
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posted May 03, 2011 03:55 PM
last i checked the canadian dollar was worth more than the american one. its either ahead or on par, don't be a knob.
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Heresy19
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posted May 03, 2011 03:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by joz:
...That sounds excessive? I'm not an expert in economy, but last I checked the Canadian Dollar did not equal ten american cents...unless I'm wrong.
Believe me, Canada Post = thieves. It costs 14.90$ to send registered mail PLUS you need to pay 1$ per 100$ you want to be covered (insurances). It's totally stupid.
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 04:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Believe me, Canada Post = thieves. It costs 14.90$ to send registered mail PLUS you need to pay 1$ per 100$ you want to be covered (insurances). It's totally stupid.
Do they have some sort of regular mail? __________________
Bargain is not to powerful for EDH, EDH is to weak for Bargain!
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WeedIan
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posted May 03, 2011 04:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Believe me, Canada Post = thieves. It costs 14.90$ to send registered mail PLUS you need to pay 1$ per 100$ you want to be covered (insurances). It's totally stupid.
Its likely due to the fact that Canada post doesn't want to compete. Even at $2 to add delivery confirmation I would happy. __________________
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Heresy19
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posted May 03, 2011 04:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Do they have some sort of regular mail?
Yeah but without DC it shrinks down the amount of people who wants to trade with Canadians :/ Regular mail is like 1.15$ for regular enveloppe or 2.25$ for bubble mailer (because it's considered oversize).
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WeedIan
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posted May 03, 2011 04:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Yeah but without DC it shrinks down the amount of people who wants to trade with Canadians :/Regular mail is like 1.15$ for regular enveloppe or 2.25$ for bubble mailer (because it's considered oversize).
But due to the number of reverse rippers why do i even bother using regular mail. Alot of dishonest people have no problem going "Nope never got them" while staring at the cards they just recieved in hopes of getting some more money out of you. __________________
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
But due to the number of reverse rippers why do i even bother using regular mail.Alot of dishonest people have no problem going "Nope never got them" while staring at the cards they just recieved in hopes of getting some more money out of you.
I suppose that is a valid point. Sucks I guess. I personally have never required anyone to DC/SC/track anything they send me. But dishonest people do exist and they should be shot (me thinks.)
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Heresy19
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posted May 03, 2011 04:53 PM
That's why I have my rule #10. I am a honest trader with enough refs to prove it. I've been ripped several times by traders who claimmed that they never got my cards but added them on their lists a couple of days later. Funny that since I added this rule, I never had any problems 
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 05:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
That's why I have my rule #10. I am a honest trader with enough refs to prove it. I've been ripped several times by traders who claimmed that they never got my cards but added them on their lists a couple of days later. Funny that since I added this rule, I never had any problems
That is a good rule, may I use it?
But it should be "hold me" not "held me" because I will not hold you, unless you are a woman. __________________
Bargain is not too powerful for EDH, EDH is too weak for Bargain!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by joz on May 03, 2011]
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bigbob585
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posted May 03, 2011 05:14 PM
as great as that option is.. It's not exactly enforceable depending on payment method. Just because you say that doesn't mean paypal or merchant companies will adhere to it if something actually happens.It's an unfortunately shift from buyer beware to seller beware that's caused an increase in internet fraud.
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 05:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bigbob585:
as great as that option is.. It's not exactly enforceable depending on payment method. Just because you say that doesn't mean paypal or merchant companies will adhere to it if something actually happens.It's an unfortunately shift from buyer beware to seller beware that's caused an increase in internet fraud.
Easily amendable:
#10. You have to write in a e-mail that you will not held me responsible for lost, stolen or damaged mail unless you agree to pay the Xx.xx$ to send with DC, cause I don't have that money to spend. You must send the Xx.xx$ after both parties agree; but before either parties send. If it not received you agree to cancel the trade without repercussion and any cards received will be sent back at your expense. ( in the cheapest safe format.)__________________
Bargain is not too powerful for EDH, EDH is too weak for Bargain!
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Heresy19
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posted May 03, 2011 05:40 PM
It's my TRADING rule ;PI rarely sell here (Kijiji is WAY better since I can charge close to SCG and will sell anything in less than 3 days lol) but my issues were when I was trading with people. Btw Joz, I'm a french Canadian (nobody's perfect :P) so I appologize for my bad english grammar :/
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joz
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posted May 03, 2011 05:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
It's my TRADING rule ;PI rarely sell here (Kijiji is WAY better since I can charge close to SCG and will sell anything in less than 3 days lol) but my issues were when I was trading with people. Btw Joz, I'm a french Canadian (nobody's perfect :P) so I appologize for my bad english grammar :/
I wuz jus tring 2 help __________________
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caquaa
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posted May 04, 2011 01:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
For smaller trades you can still use a plain white envelope to cut costs. That still should be sent non-machineable though, but I almost never send that way anymore. I still dislike when I get $10+ cards in a PWE.
if you send something as non-machinable then there is an additional charge for doing so. You might as well just buy a bubble envelope and call it good. I buy them in lots of 25-50 on ebay for fairly cheap and go through them eventually.
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mm1983
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posted May 08, 2011 07:13 PM
Earlier in the year I bought 500 size 000 bubble mailers from a mailing supply company for under $50 shipped to my house. Compared to the size 0 bubble mailers I was using and still use from time to time I save .17 per bubble mailer for shipping the same item in the smaller bubble mailer.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by mm1983 on May 08, 2011]
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