Any lands that only provide mana are exempted from the banning rules.

NO MISE DECKS!

Any deck submitted MUST have some win condition. Any deck that can do no better than a draw against any possible deck will be rejected. A deck that can't win any game is mathematically eliminated from winning the round, and thus would just be taking a chance to win away from someone who could actually have a shot.

ALL players will assist in judging. The way this will work is that after the submission period is over, After all decks are revealed, judge your own deck against every other deck (going first and going second). Post your findings here in this thread. They will be reviewed by everyone for accuracy. Once a winner is determined the winners deck will be added to the banned list and the next round will begin. Repeated failure to do your own scoring will result in suspensions!

--------------Current banned list--------------
All Unglued cards
All Unhinged cards
All Ante cards
All cards not appearing in Gatherer (World Champion, Shichifukujin Dragon, cards from a new set not yet released, etc.)

Multicolored:

Lightning Helix
Progenitus

Colorless non-artifacts:

Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre

Lands:

Dark Depths
Ghost Quarter
Inkmoth Nexus
Karakas
Maze of Ith
Mishra's Factory
Mishra's Workshop
Mutavault
Shelldock Isle
Strip Mine
Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Tolarian Academy
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Wasteland

Artifacts:

Black Lotus
Blightsteel Colossus
Elixir of Immortality
Ensnaring Bridge
Isochron Scepter
Lion's Eye Diamond
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Pithing Needle
The Rack
Scalding Tongs
Trinisphere

Black:

Cabal Therapy
Contagion
Dark Ritual
Funeral Charm
Nether Spirit
Oona's Prowler
Reanimate
Thoughtseize
Unmask
Vampire Hexmage

Blue:

Chain of Vapor
Daze
Disrupting Shoal
Foil
Force of Will
Force Spike
Hive Mind
Leyline of Anticipation
Leyline of Singularity
Mental Misstep
Show and Tell
Sphinx of Jwar Isle
Tidal Warrior
Web of Inertia

Green:

Chancellor of the Tangle
Channel
Eureka

Red:

Burning Inquiry
Pact of the Titan
Seething Song
Simian Spirit Guide
Sneak Attack

White:

Balance
Chancellor of the Annex
Leonin Relic-Warder
Path to Exile
Serra Ascendant
Swords to Plowshares

Winning decks that caused cards to be banned (History):

Round 1, eschewing Black Lotus and Force of Will - yakusoku:

Mishra's Workshop
Ensnaring Bridge
Trinisphere
Scalding Tongs
Scalding Tongs

Round 1, played by over 1/3 of players:

Black Lotus
Force of Will

Round 2, from s14sh3r:

Mox Pearl
City of Traitors
Balance
The Rack
The Rack

Round 2, played by over 1/3 of all players:

Leyline of Anticipation

Round 3, uncounterable - yakusoku:

Leyline of Singularity
Karakas
Karakas
Mishra's Factory
Mishra's Factory

Round 3, played by over 1/3rd of all players:

Foil

Round 4, almost perfect - yakusoku:

Mox Emerald
Mox Emerald
Channel
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Pithing Needle

Round 4, played by over 1/3rd of the field (3/7):

Strip Mine
Inkmoth Nexus
Maze of Ith

Round 5, he's in your mind, making you cast spells - LegendaryFerret:

Tolarian Academy
Mana Crypt
Mana Vault
Hive Mind
Pact of the Titan

Round 6, winning with A Rib of Cysts, A Parch of Vino, A Bleach Party, and some other stuff that's all mixed up - coinmagic45:

City of Brass
Chain of Vapor
Cabal Therapy
Burning Inquiry
Nether Spirit

Round 6, played by over 1/3rd of all players:

Mox Sapphire

Round 7, winning with lands and only lands - Magic1264:

Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Wasteland
Ghost Quarter
Mutavault
Mutavault

Round 7, played by over 1/3rd of all players:

Mesmeric Fiend

Round 8, out of the Depths, I cry to you, oh Marit Lage - SageShadows:

Dark Depths
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Thoughtseize
Vampire Hexmage
Vampire Hexmage

Round 9, look at what he brought to Show and Tell - joz:

Island
Simian Spirit Guide
Simian Spirit Guide
Show and Tell
Progenitus

Round 9, played by over 1/3 of all players:

Mox Jet

Round 10, from a sneaky, sneaky guy - Myy:

Blightsteel Colossus
Sneak Attack
Mox Ruby
City of Traitors
Seething Song

Round 11, doing bad, evil things with black mana (like winning) - yakusoku

Chancellor of the Annex
Swamp
Dark Ritual
Oona's Prowler
Reanimate

Round 12, making Lightning strike the same place every turn - Myy:

Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix
City of Traitors
Unmask
Contagion

Round 13, Dazing and Confusing - yakusoku:

Island
Tidal Warrior
Tidal Warrior
Mental Misstep
Daze

Round 14 - Blue spells for the win, Magic1264:

Disrupting Shoal
Force Spike
Saprazzan Cove
Web of Inertia
Sphinx of Jwar Isle

Round 15 - he may be immortal, but he can be killed, just not by more than one person, Numotflame96:

Path to Exile
Serra Ascendant
Plains
Elixir of Imortality
City of Traitors

Round 16, winning with Ulamog, but not *THAT* Ulamog deck - Numotflame96 and junichi:

Swords to Plowshares
Leonin Relic Warder
Plains
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Fountain of Cho

Lion's Eye Diamond
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Shelldock Isle
Underground Sea
Funeral Charm

Round 16, played by over 1/3rd of all players:

Channel
Chancellor of the Tangle
Eureka

Winners List:

5

yakusoku

2

Magic1264
Myy
Numotflame96

1

coinmagic45
joz
junichi
LegendaryFerret
SageShadows
s14sh3r

Decklists:

1. yakusoku

Chrome Mox
Magus of the Moon
City of Traitors
Pyrokinesis
Words of War

2. rainherring

Gaea's Cradle
Memnite
Magus of the vineyard
Omnath, locus of mana
Helix pinnacle

3. SageShadows

Bayou
Memnite
Culling the Weak
Phyrexian Obliterator
Reverent Silence

4. NiceFaceLOL

Innocent Blood
Inquisition of Kozilek
Undiscovered Paradise
Noxious Revival
Tukatongue Thallid

5. Numotflame96

Scrubland
Blackmail
Noxious Revival
Dismember
Student of Warfare

6. Myy

Sheltered Valley
Swamp
Encroach
Mesmeric Fiend
Bitterblossom

7. junichi

City of Traitors
Phyrexian Revoker
Spellskite
Steel Overseer
Trip Noose

8. Magic1264

City of Traitors
Sol Ring
Sol Ring
Lodestone Golem
Phyrexian Processor

9. mattw

You can usually classify most of the decks into one of these categories (although there's lots of overlap):

1) Combo decks. A two, three, or more card combo that will win you the game. For example: Vampire Hexmage + Dark Depths. A 20/20 flying creature on turn two that attacks turn 3 is hard for many decks to deal with. These kinds of decks are easily disrupted by discard and counters, but usually beat other decks with no disruption. Sometimes these decks deal with disruption by running multiple copies or running some disruption themselves. The Vampire Hexmage Dark Depths deck that won was able to force through a win with two Vampire Hexmages, ensuring that even if one got countered or discarded, a second would likely resolve.

2) Control decks. You generally play one, slow win condition and spend the rest of the game trying to stop what your opponent does. You might run a counterspell to stop him from winning, discard to take a card away, or have some other spell or permanent that deals with creatures. Look at Round 14, where a deck that stalled out creature decks with Web of Inertia hoped to win many, many turns later with Sphinx of Jwar Isle. Force Spike and Disrupting Shoal also helped act as a way to stop combo, aggro, or even other control decks.

3) Aggro decks. You play out early threats and hope to win quickly, although often aggro decks incorporate some elements of control or combo to win, since an early creature may not get there on its own. Look at Round 13's winning deck:

Island
Tidal Warrior
Tidal Warrior
Mental Misstep
Daze

The deck played Tidal Warrior ASAP and hoped to stop opponents with Mental Misstep or Daze if they were fast decks and use Tidal Warrior to make a non-basic an island if it's a slow deck.

There's not an absolute divide and often an aggro-control, aggro-combo, or combo-control deck is really what wins, since you need a way to play a victory condition and stop your opponent from winning as well.

So, how do you choose a deck?

You can figure out a combo of two cards you want to play and some way to play those cards, or you can try to make your best guess as what will be popular and play a deck that looks good against those decks, or if you are so inclined, there have been previous rounds of V3CB and V4CB and many of those decks can be "upgraded" for five cards now.

Right now, Mesmeric Fiend and Nezumi Shortfang are still unbanned and ready to win a round, and there are still plenty of non-basic land hate cards like Magus of the Moon or Dwarven Miner, which can stop slower decks or some combo decks that don't win early. Rite of Flame still is legal, so you can play a deck with two or three of these and generate lots of red mana on turn 1 or 2 and win with something like Goblin Warrens. Sarcomancy and Tel-Jilad Stylus can make lots of Zombies for you. Bitterblossom and Sheltered Valley work well together.

Lodestone Golem by itself, if you can get it out turn one or two can be brutal to many decks that have exactly the amount of mana to play their spells.

Barbed Shocker or Shocker played Early can strip your opponent's entire hand.

Find a way to abuse Time Vault and Voltaic Key.

Two turns with Eater of Days is meaningless if your opponent still will die before you kill them with a huge creature.

Phyrexian Dreadnaught's downside can be negated in a few ways (Stife, Torpor Orb) and a turn 1 or 2 12/12 trampler can end the game very quickly.

Get a fatty into your graveyard and get it back with Exhume.

Play a nearly unkillable creature like Eternal Dragon (if you can stop your opponent cold, they aren't drawing new cards, so if it takes you five or fifty turns to kill them, you can sitll win)

Shah of Naar Isle's downside is pretty meaningless, so attack away with a huge creature.

Play land destruction.

Play lots of creatures.

Play one big creature.

Play a two-card combo.

Play discard.

Or play something none of us will see coming.

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you have to pm or e-mail yaku your deck, not just post it on here.

You may use other formats as well, but this one is a must. Also PLEASE make sure you use the proper deck number for your deck. Replace the '?' on the bottom line with the number next to your name on the decklist.

Scoring:

Play your deck against each other deck twice, once with you going first, once with them going first.

Always remember that each deck is to be played perfectly.

For each of the 2 games, score 3 points if your deck wins or 1 point if the game is a draw, with no

points for a loss.

Some examples:
2 wins (WW) is 6 points.
A win and a draw (WD) is 4 points.
A win and a loss (WL) is 3 points.
2 draws (DD) is 2 points.
A draw and a loss (DL) is 1 point.
2 losses (LL) is 0 points.

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I never did the math against myy but i think i can tap the crafter to kill him before the faeries get me.

agaisnt magic, on the play i first turn lackey.
if he first turns the processor then he's gotta pay at least five i would guess
20-15
i hit for one and drop the crafter
20-14
he puts in a token
i tap and hit him for three
20-11
hits me for five, puts in another token
15-11
i hit for 3
15-8
he hits for ten, puts in a token
5-8
i poke for three and burn for 4, then cry.
on the draw a first turn lodestone seals it.

At least i came back in a big way. and Myy prolly beat me too.

1. yakusoku

Draw: Magus shuts down my city.
Play: Revoker shuts down his chrome mox.
LW

2. rainherring
Draw: Revoker shuts down his pinnacle. I tap his Omnath every turn to prevent him from attacking, while my steel overseer and the rest go to town.
Play: Same as above.
WW

3. SageShadows
Draw: I tap his Obliterator every turn, and go to town with the rest of my metal friends.
Play: Same as above.
WW

4. NiceFaceLOL
Draw: He can kill or discard any 3 of my stuff, but his 1/1 can't get pass whatever that is left.
Play: Same as above.
DD

5. Numotflame96
Draw: Trip Noose forces a draw.
Play: Same as above.
DD

6. Myy
Draw: Encroach wrecks me.
Play: I assume I lose this one as well. I haven't done the math for this one, so I will come back for this later if the result is different.
LL

7. junichi
Draw: Zzz
Play: Zzz
XX

8. Magic1264
Draw: Revoker shuts down his sol ring. I drop turn 2 overseer, turn 3 spellskite, with 10 life left.
Play: Same as above.
WW

9. mattw
Draw: I play turn 1 spellskite, which forces him to pyro it if he ever wants to go off. My revoker will then shutdown his Lightning Crafter. If he doesn't pyro my spellskite, then I drop a turn 2 overseer and he will have to kill it eventually. Trip Noose makes sure he can't block.
Play: Same as above.
WW

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I doubt that is enough to win.

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MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 Champion

1. yakusoku WL

Chrome Mox
Magus of the Moon
City of Traitors
Pyrokinesis
Words of War

on the play i cast blackmail and he has to show me his nonmana cards or he cant cast anything. i pick Words. he casts magus and i dismember it. he loses. on the draw h T1's words and i lose

2. rainherring WW

Gaea's Cradle
Memnite
Magus of the vineyard
Omnath, locus of mana
Helix pinnacle

he goes T1 memnite, cradle, magus. i hav 3 mana and cast blackmail taking omnath, and dismember his magus then cast revival for dismember. he attacks me with mmnite. i cast student and rac memnit easily(also can dismembr it)

3. SageShadows WW

Bayou
Memnite
Culling the Weak
Phyrexian Obliterator
Reverent Silence

i dismember obliterator and win.

4. NiceFaceLOL DD

Innocent Blood
Inquisition of Kozilek
Undiscovered Paradise
Noxious Revival
Tukatongue Thallid

i blackmail him taking him and what ver i do h takes it back with revival. th sam thing happens when he ioks me. i can't play my creature till after his thallid comes down. if he plays it its a draw anyway.

5. Numotflame96 XX

Scrubland
Blackmail
Noxious Revival
Dismember
Student of Warfare

6. Myy WW

Sheltered Valley
Swamp
Encroach
Mesmeric Fiend
Bitterblossom

he casts encroach and taks my land. i revive it and take 2. i play my land and play black mail and take his 2nd land. h can't play andything else. based on that he has to keep encroach in hand even on the play. i cast black mail and he has to keep his lands so i take bitterblossom. he encroach nothing so i just play student next turn and race feind

7. junichi DD

City of Traitors
Phyrexian Revoker
Spellskite
Steel Overseer
Trip Noose

he casts trip noose t1 or looses it. i take ovrseer with blackmail. he plays revokr. i dismember it then reviviv the dismamber to kill spellskit(or other order) trip noose taps down my creature over and ovr again.

8. Magic1264 LL

City of Traitors
Sol Ring
Sol Ring
Lodestone Golem
Phyrexian Processor

on the play i hit a sol ring with blackmail. he casts golem next turn.i can't cast anyhting else when he has lodestone down. if i take processor, golem comes down. if i take golem, he casts processor pays 10 life and kills me.

9. mattw WW

Mountain
Goblin Lackey
Lightning Crafter
Pyrokinesis
Warp World

2. rainherring DD
Reverent Silence locks him out of the Helix win. On the play: Play obliterator. He casts his Magus of the Vineyard. I swing for 5. He casts Omnath with 1 floating (2/2) and swings in for 2. I swing for another 5. Omnath is up to 6 floating (7/7) and he pokes in for 2. (Me: 16, Him: 10). I swing for another 5 (Me: 16, Him 5). Omnath is a (12/12) now and he can only swing in for 14, so that means he needs to use Omnath to protect himself. In the end, it turns out to be a tie.
Same on the draw.

3. SageShadows XX

4. NiceFaceLOL LL
I can’t beat Innocent Blood and Inquisition.

5. Numotflame96 LL
A Dismember is game.

6. Myy WL
On the play, I get my stuff out fast enough. He just doesn’t have enough resources to take the Phyrexian Obliterator hits.
On the draw, Encroach is a blowout.

7. junichi LL
Trip Noose trips up Phyrexian Obliterator.

8. Magic1264 LL
On the play, I get my Phyrexian Obliterator out fast enough to avoid Lodestone disaster. He casts the Loadstone. I swing in for 5. He swings in for 5, plays the Phyrexian Processor for an arbitrary low number and wins despite my Obliterator.

9. mattw DD
On the play, Obliterator can block the Lackey and his board will be nuked. On the draw, the same thing happens. Since he can pyrokinesis away the Obliterator, it’s a draw.

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1. yakusoku WW
On the play, I bring out my Phyrexian Obliterator. There’s no way he can deal 5 damage to my Obliterator at once, so I win the game
On the draw, it’s the same thing. Chrome Mox and Pyrokinesis just don’t work well together.

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How do you play Phyrexian Obliterator on the draw? I play Magus of the Moon and you can't cast Phyrexian Obliterator off of Memnite and a Mountain.

1. yakusoku XX

Chrome Mox
Magus of the Moon
City of Traitors
Pyrokinesis
Words of War

2. rainherring WL On the play, Magus of the Moon makes Gaea's Cradle into a Mountain and my 2/2 beats his 1/1. On the draw, he can play Magus and I have to use Pyrokinesis, then he plays Memnite and I lose.

3. SageShadows WL On the play, Magus of the Moon turns Bayou into a Mountain, so he can't play Culling the Weak or Phyrexian Obliterator.

4. NiceFaceLOL WL On the play, his Undiscovered Paradise is a mountain and he can't play anything. On the draw, he plays Inquisition and takes my Chrome Mox.

5. Numotflame96 WL On the play, I resolve Words of War. On the draw, I lose Words of War to Blackmail and Magus ot Dismember (or he uses Noxious Revival to recover from Pyrokinesis)

6. Myy WL. On the play, I play Words of War, then Magus of the Moon and win. On the draw, he Encroaches my land and wins with Bitterblossom.

7. junichi WL On the play, he can't play anything. On the draw, Phyrexian Revoker names Chrome Mox.

8. Magic1264 LL. He can play Phyrexian Processor and race me.

9. mattw WD. On the play, I play Words of War and shoot his Lackey and then him. On the draw, I can't use Magus to block or Words to shoot the Lackey, so I use Pyro to kill his Lackey and we both can't do anything.

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2. rainherring WL On the play, Magus of the Moon makes Gaea's Cradle into a Mountain and my 2/2 beats his 1/1. On the draw, he can play Magus and I have to use Pyrokinesis, then he plays Memnite and I lose.

i think you win here. he has to cast memnite in order to cast magus he needs to already have out memnite already.

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Chrome Mox
Magus of the Moon
City of Traitors
Pyrokinesis
Words of War

2. rainherring WW

Gaea's Cradle
Memnite
Magus of the vineyard
Omnath, locus of mana
Helix pinnacle

3. SageShadows WL

Bayou
Memnite
Culling the Weak
Phyrexian Obliterator
Reverent Silence

4. NiceFaceLOL DD

Innocent Blood
Inquisition of Kozilek
Undiscovered Paradise
Noxious Revival
Tukatongue Thallid

5. Numotflame96 LL

Scrubland
Blackmail
Noxious Revival
Dismember
Student of Warfare

6. Myy Xx

Sheltered Valley
Swamp
Encroach
Mesmeric Fiend
Bitterblossom

7. junichi WW

City of Traitors
Phyrexian Revoker
Spellskite
Steel Overseer
Trip Noose

8. Magic1264 WL

City of Traitors
Sol Ring
Sol Ring
Lodestone Golem
Phyrexian Processor

9. mattw WL

Mountain
Goblin Lackey
Lightning Crafter
Pyrokinesis
Warp World

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