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Topic: USPS issues.. anybody else?
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bigbob585
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posted July 12, 2011 05:47 PM
       
Hey all. i've noticed that since USPS has started pushing for more automated mail sorting I've been having more orders being returned with the yellow "undeliverable, return to sender, unable to forward" stickers.These are mostly envelopes that are all printed but also PC postage too. Has anybody else seen this trend? I've had over a dozen orders get returned in the last few months.
I know some of you here work for the USPS so maybe you could shed some light too.
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hilikuS
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posted July 12, 2011 06:01 PM
 
That and it seems like they raise their rates every 3rd day.
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Soldier Boi
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posted July 12, 2011 06:02 PM
I dont work for UPS but for some odd reason they no longer deliver to my address. Well they do deliver but everything I have order this year has been sent back because my address doesnt exist. So i have to pick everything up from the UPS store.
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MeddlingMage
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posted July 12, 2011 06:14 PM
I have that going on right now, the guy and I are in contact and he was going to check at his local PO. I will post if I get mine "returned to sender"~MM __________________
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Thanos
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posted July 13, 2011 08:03 AM
I seem to have quite a few things that normally would get to me within a few days take weeks to get to me now.
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Vegas10
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posted July 17, 2011 11:03 AM
I work for USPS, without more details hard to say, but it sounds like you may have had either incomplete or improper addresses or you may have written the address down wrong, if you sent me a scan of the envelope I could better answer the question. As for the guy who says we raise our rates every 3 days obviously has no clue what he's talking about USPS has to ask congressional permisson to raise rates and if approved are only allowed to do so once a year, usually in may. Stamps have been $.44 cents for about 3-4 years now. some other rates have gone up since then.
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bigbob585
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posted July 17, 2011 11:08 AM
USPS rate increases greater than normal inflation aren't due to them just doing it to simply make greater profits. It's being forced because of incompetent postmaster general's, the lack of efficiency within the post office functions, and the postal mentality (ever wonder why it takes 30 minutes to get through a ten person line).
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jshields
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posted July 18, 2011 08:45 AM
I have had the problem of orders leaving the country to other places (Germany, Belgium) and not arriving, resulting in my losing about $150.00 in singles or in the other case, taking almost 3 months to get to their destination. This has not been a problem in the past for me. While I could have sent the cards registered mail with insurance, at the time, it was not worth the $13.00 of postage for the two $75.00 orders I sent. This is only been recent, happening to me twice in the past 3 months, despite having legible handwriting and placing sufficient postage on the envelope. At this point, I am not sure what to make of it either.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by jshields on July 18, 2011]
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Bagbokk
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posted July 18, 2011 10:53 AM
Someone who sent something DC to me apparently can't track his dc#. That's the first and only problem I've had since I started selling/buying again, though (and the first problem I've had in forever). Update: I just received the package, 10 days after it was sent; the DC# was untrackable up until today when it was sorted through a GA facility (it was mailed from IN). So, no more problems, but the delay was still there. I'm not really sure of what to make of the undeliverable stuff. Problems with USPS and cost raising are a function of many factors. It'd be ignorant to put the blame solely (or even primarily) on them or the people that work there.
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Bagbokk on July 18, 2011]
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bertie312
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posted July 18, 2011 11:16 AM
Same in Here... Just send A registred shipment delivered by Usps, and they send it back to me (waiting for it at the momernt) as Unclaim.. But i send it to a compagny where my partner work, telling me will be more easy to pick it up 
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caquaa
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posted July 18, 2011 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Someone who sent something DC to me apparently can't track his dc#. That's the first and only problem I've had since I started selling/buying again, though (and the first problem I've had in forever).
keep in mind DC is Delivery Confirmation, not tracking. Its sometimes scanned through facilities and updated, other times you get an update when its delivered. I did mail a package w/ DC once that never showed anything another then my post office accepting it. I lost out a lot for that one. Happens =/
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joz
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posted July 18, 2011 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
keep in mind DC is Delivery Confirmation, not tracking. Its sometimes scanned through facilities and updated, other times you get an update when its delivered.I did mail a package w/ DC once that never showed anything another then my post office accepting it. I lost out a lot for that one. Happens =/
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Bagbokk
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posted July 18, 2011 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
keep in mind DC is Delivery Confirmation, not tracking. Its sometimes scanned through facilities and updated, other times you get an update when its delivered.I did mail a package w/ DC once that never showed anything another then my post office accepting it. I lost out a lot for that one. Happens =/
USPS has gotten quite a bit better at using DC as tracking than they used to. They're SUPPOSED to scan it when it's accepted, when it goes through facilities and when it's delivered. I'd say probably 95% of the time they do. The other 4.9% they don't update it but it gets to its destination anyway. Delivery confirmation stuff getting lost is generally really rare. On international mail, I've never had the customs form actually be trackable. You get an acceptance notice and that's it.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on July 18, 2011]
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Vegas10
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posted July 18, 2011 09:41 PM
I am a USPS mail carrier and can shed some light on some issues and clear up some misinformation as well. As far as sending to countries outside the US you must realize that once an item leaves the U.S. it goes to that countries postal system, not the U.S.A., which is why you usually can't track items. As far as domestic mailing, some of the reasons why one first class letter can take 3 days to get accross country, and some longer, can depend on alot of factors, between machines and people, occasionaly items can accidently be sent to the wrong plant and or local Post office where it will need to be put back on the proper path, and if the machines are making the error a person must catch it and black out the code the machine uses to read the address otherwise it will keep directing it improperly. In otherwords the machine is reading the address wrong. Other problems include, address is hand written sloppy and is misread by machine or person, the address is insufficent, or incorrect (happens more than you think) I actually have gotten letters with just a street name on it no numbers or name, obviously that's a return to sender. As far as DC goes our system isn't the same as UPS, when we deliver the package even when it is scanned properly, it won't show up in our system until after the carrier has returned to the office and the scanner is downloaded. As far as Bigbob's comments about raising rates for profit, he obvously doesn't read news about USPS, we are about to go into our 3rd straight year of 5 Billion dollar net loss each year 2009, 2010, and current physical year, yet stamps havn't gone up since 2008,form 2001 - 2011 the stamp went up a total of $.10 compared to things like gas, milk, eggs and other things that's nothing. And as far as the "postal attitude" that's insulting yes just like in every large organization there are bad seeds, but most people that I work with care about the customers on there routes and that come in the office and do a good job. I deliver about 1600 - 2000 pieces a day on average yet my managers may get a complaint about a misdelivery or issue maybe once a month, and many veterens also work at USPS who served our country proud.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Vegas10 on July 18, 2011]
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bigbob585
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posted July 18, 2011 09:49 PM
Hey Vegas. I just wanted to clarify because i wasn't trying to be insulting. The postal attitude was explained to me by a USPS payrolled psychologist. While it doesn't include everybody, it's mostly inclusive of people working inside and not delivery drivers who have had to do over 30% more work in the same amount of time as they have had to do compared to 10 years ago.As for the rates, while they haven't always gone up, in the last 10 or so years, the rates have gone up faster than inflation and the last postmaster general did an absolutely horrible job.
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Swift2210
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posted July 19, 2011 02:18 AM
Hey Vegas, I appreciate the work the USPS does. But I do have a question for you. What is the average misdelivery rate for a mail parcel, domestic?
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Vegas10
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posted July 19, 2011 04:57 AM
Big bob your right about delivery drivers my route is about 130 deliveries longer than it was just 3 years ago by the way a walking route not a curbside driving route, yet when I put in for overtime the bosses get mad. I tell them I didn't make my rout 1 hr and 30 mins longer than it was that was there decision so don't get mad at me. Your right about not just the PMG (Postmaster General) but most upper management in the post office is clueless, partially because many of them never held regualar USPS jobs including lower level management jobs, yet seem to think they know how it all runs. Example just a few months ago the USPS appointed a new assisstant PMG, he has never worked in shipping at all USPS or otherwise yet he is now the second highest ranking official in Usps. As for a stat on misdelivered parcels, I'm not sure there is one but I'd wager over 98% are delivered to proper address, most mistakes for parcels are like this correct address 183 ball st, misdeliever to 183 hall st. in same town, similar names and numbers tend to be the most common mistakes when made, and are most often made by fill in carriers but regualrs make em to.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Vegas10 on July 19, 2011]
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