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Topic: Non-machineable
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 21, 2011 09:42 AM
      
So I do almost all of my shipping from my house, 90% of what I send out is in the US and with DC/bubblemailer so I can just print it out. I'm wondering if there is a way to mark envelopes as non-machineable when mailing from home. For the most part the deals that would need it are pretty small and not worth driving/waiting at the post office.
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MasterWolf
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posted July 21, 2011 10:04 AM
  
I think the postage is more. And I think you can write it on the envelope.
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gcowhsu
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posted July 21, 2011 10:21 AM
I think with a toploaded the machine does not damage the cards. I have sent all mine with the basic stamp and toploaders and have not had a complaint yet.
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 21, 2011 10:24 AM
Yeah, I've never had anything get damaged or lost. Some people only want to pay 1.00 shipping for expensive stuff and while I'm not responsible if something happens, I would like to do everything I can to make sure nothing does happen.@Wolf: I haven't been able to find anywhere that you can write it on and I don't really want to spend more money and nor know if they are even doing it. Have you done this before?
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MasterWolf
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posted July 21, 2011 10:31 AM
The problem with toploaders is occasionally they will catch in the machine and the envelope will rip open. Now, it shouldn't actually damage the card, but it might get lost. Or the package could get lost. Or it could take 3 months to get there. This has happened to me before.I know that if you take the stuff to the post office you can pay a couple cents more and it wont get run through the machine. I dunno if this is true from your house.
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psrex
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posted July 21, 2011 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
The problem with toploaders is occasionally they will catch in the machine and the envelope will rip open.
If you enclose the toploader in a folded up piece of paper I believe that you can eliminate this problem. Fold a sheet of paper in half, place your toploader inside the folded area, and then fold the sheet in thirds. I haven't had problems out of 700+ times.
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coasterdude84
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posted July 21, 2011 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
I think with a toploaded the machine does not damage the cards. I have sent all mine with the basic stamp and toploaders and have not had a complaint yet.
False, see bottom left. Punched right through the toploader and sleeve. Use a bubble mailer or at least write NON-MACHINABLE on the bottom.
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bigbob585
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posted July 21, 2011 10:55 AM
You can fit 7 cards on a toploader in a team bag in a #6 coin envelope without having to pay the fee.I've been experimenting with this for years now and this is about the limit. Not sure about white envelopes though. I even have a letter from USPS consumer affairs so I don't have to deal with all the BS at the retail locations
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 21, 2011 10:55 AM
From what I can tell, most of the time the machine just rips the envelope and the card doesn't make it. Though, it can just be damaged as in coasterdude's case.
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dwiz
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posted July 21, 2011 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by NiceFaceLOL:
From what I can tell, most of the time the machine just rips the envelope and the card doesn't make it. Though, it can just be damaged as in coasterdude's case.
This is BS. "Most of the time" plain white envelopes don't make it? Are you being serious?
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psrex
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posted July 21, 2011 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
This is BS. "Most of the time" plain white envelopes don't make it? Are you being serious?
I think that this is just in reference to the times that the envelope is ripped, not talking about PWEs in general.
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dwiz
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posted July 21, 2011 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by psrex:
I think that this is just in reference to the times that the envelope is ripped, not talking about PWEs in general.
Ah, I can see that. His statement wasn't phrased well.
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gcowhsu
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posted July 21, 2011 11:53 AM
I just do envelop, toploader, sleeve, and I wrap a piece of paper around the toploader with the trade on it. I've had a person tell me that the cards came out of the toploader once, but were not damaged. Most toploaders can take only 3 cards with a penny sleeve so I fill it with random crap or tape the top shut.I'm not sure how bob got 7 in there, but if you put too many in there it is hard to take out without risk of damaging the cards. Concerning your question. It is 20 cents more to send non machinable. It will most likely be returned to you if you do not provide it. 2 toploaders with a single layer paper ripped in half will be sent back to you. It does not fit in their sliding test thing and you will need extra postage for that.
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 21, 2011 11:54 AM
I can see how it would be confusing. I was only talking about the times something goes wrong.
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dwiz
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posted July 21, 2011 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
I just do envelop, toploader, sleeve, and I wrap a piece of paper around the toploader with the trade on it. I've had a person tell me that the cards came out of the toploader once, but were not damaged. Most toploaders can take only 3 cards with a penny sleeve so I fill it with random crap or tape the top shut.I'm not sure how bob got 7 in there, but if you put too many in there it is hard to take out without risk of damaging the cards. Concerning your question. It is 20 cents more to send non machinable. It will most likely be returned to you if you do not provide it. 2 toploaders with a single layer paper ripped in half will be sent back to you. It does not fit in their sliding test thing and you will need extra postage for that.
Bob doesn't put them in the toploader, they are just next to it (I'm assuming, seen it done this way). It's use is just like a piece of cardboard, except thinner.
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nderdog
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posted July 21, 2011 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
False, see bottom left. Punched right through the toploader and sleeve. Use a bubble mailer or at least write NON-MACHINABLE on the bottom.
I've received packages where the card had a hole the size of a dime worn clean through the middle, with a matching hole in the toploader that it was in. I've received enough damaged or lost cards from plain envelopes that I refuse to ever use them again. It's worth the extra little bit to use bubble mailers for everything and keep my trading partners happy. __________________
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WCFmo
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posted July 21, 2011 12:59 PM
I put the card in a toploader then fold a piece of thin cardboard and place the toploader in between. Haven't had a problem yet. I ask the post office to mark it "Do Not Bend." Costs around $.88. I still prefer sending in a bubble mailer, however.__________________
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bigbob585
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posted July 21, 2011 01:36 PM
4 or less cards generally go in the toploader. 5-7 get taped to the top loader in a penny sleeve or with a team bag.
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NoblePurpose
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posted July 21, 2011 06:33 PM
I purchased a bulk order of 250 4x6 bubble mailers off Ebay a few years ago. They cost me like $28 delivered, which is $.112 per bubble mailer. It might seem like a lot of bubble mailers, but you don't realize how many you go through over a couple years.. I still have a bunch, but I have gone through more than enough for it to be worth the $28. Considering it costs $.50-$.70 per bubble mailer at the store, buying in bulk is the way to go. For $.11, go with the bubble mailers and stop sending in white envelopes. I have received damaged cards in white envelopes before, including good cards, yet I have never heard a complaint from my end, which is mainly because I use top loaders and bubble mailers for every trade, no matter what the cost is. I do understand that it costs more for shipping a bubble mailer (About a dollar more, maybe slightly more depending on the size of the package), but I don't mind spending the extra money to make sure I never have a problem arise. Just remember, you might save a dollar here and there, but as soon as a $100 card gets damaged, you just lost all your savings. Not worth it in my opinion. That is my opinion on the subject.
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Timmyhill
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posted July 21, 2011 07:12 PM
You can also re use a bubble mailer if you open it carefully, just tape it back up, paste a new addy lable over the old adress and is usually good to go. I view bubble mailers as just the cost of doing trades by mail... Also I adapted the "Golden Rule" to apply to bubble mailers... I expect others to send cards to me using them so I just always use them when I ship.
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mm1983
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posted July 22, 2011 03:45 AM
It screws up the machine from what I am told because I was sending out 50 of those a day and one day a bunch of them got caught in the machine and they all got sent back to me to reship and restamp. It costs .20 more per envelope to ship non machinable. To send 1 toploader in a white envelope passes for the weight to be machinable but the toploader is too rigid for the machine I am told is why it's considered non machinable.
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bigbob585
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posted July 22, 2011 03:52 AM
a normal sized top loader is considered semi-rigid and therefore not the same. in the many 1000s of orders shipped in envelopes, I've only had 1 eaten by the machines and maybe 5 sent back due to insufficient postage. It's a risk you take but they don't know their own policies that well. If you want to take the risk, simply drop them in the box.
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Heresy19
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posted July 22, 2011 05:17 AM
I bought a package of 100 big yellow enveloppes and a roll of bubble wrap... cost me 7$. Now I can make 100 trades with custom made bubble mailer. You should try it, it's cheap and it works 
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 22, 2011 09:52 AM
The mailers aren't the problem, I have hundreds of them. Some people just don't want to pay the extra money to ship with DC and bubble mailer. I actually caught my mailman today and asked him about this. He said that I can write it in red and add the postage and it will be marked correctly, but the norm is stamping it in red.
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wakeupwithastory
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posted July 22, 2011 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Heresy19:
I bought a package of 100 big yellow enveloppes and a roll of bubble wrap... cost me 7$. Now I can make 100 trades with custom made bubble mailer. You should try it, it's cheap and it works
Came here to say this.
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