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I3Iood
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posted July 26, 2011 02:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for I3Iood Click Here to Email I3Iood Send a private message to I3Iood Click to send I3Iood an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So I quoted someone a shipping price ($5), to another country, and they paid and everything and I went to ship it and it came out to be $15 shipped (which is 3x what they paid). I understand that I quoted him and do not feel he owes me anything because of my mess-up, but what would you do in this situation? Jason
 
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posted July 26, 2011 02:17 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
All you can really do is learn from it and move on. You could mention it to them and they may be nice and give more money, but I wouldn't expect it, and you certainly can't demand it.

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Uthaedeol
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posted July 26, 2011 02:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Uthaedeol Click Here to Email Uthaedeol Send a private message to Uthaedeol Click to send Uthaedeol an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Kinda depends on the size of the deal. If $10 is a fraction of the total value involved I would take the hit. If the total value is $25, I would think twice. If you really don't wanna go through if you have to pay the $10 extra, just say you're sorry explain the situation to him. Perhaps you can split the extra $10 or perhaps the other person doesn't mind paying $10 extra. It is after all the price for shipping in this situation.

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Timmyhill
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Something like this happened to me but it was much more then $15.00, he was nice and did split the shipping with me but was very upset I didnt contact him first to get it oked.

If the person is reasonable like in my example just tell them and maybe they will send you a little extra for the shipping.

If they dont care then like you say its kind of your fault so just be more careful next time?

 
nderdog
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posted July 26, 2011 02:28 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for nderdog Click Here to Email nderdog Send a private message to nderdog Click to send nderdog an Instant MessageVisit nderdog's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View nderdog's Have/Want ListView nderdog's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
If you really don't wanna go through if you have to pay the $10 extra, just say you're sorry explain the situation to him.

Just keep in mind that if the other person doesn't agree to drop the trade, this would be considered backing out of a confirmed trade and could lead to a valid BTA case and karma smack.

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Uthaedeol
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posted July 26, 2011 02:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Uthaedeol Click Here to Email Uthaedeol Send a private message to Uthaedeol Click to send Uthaedeol an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Just keep in mind that if the other person doesn't agree to drop the trade, this would be considered backing out of a confirmed trade and could lead to a valid BTA case and karma smack.


Yeah of course. Hadn't gathered that the deal is on MOTL.

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I3Iood
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posted July 26, 2011 03:59 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for I3Iood Click Here to Email I3Iood Send a private message to I3Iood Click to send I3Iood an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
All you can really do is learn from it and move on. You could mention it to them and they may be nice and give more money, but I wouldn't expect it, and you certainly can't demand it.

Understood. I just wanted to see what everyone else would do in the situation. I pm'd the person and said we are good and this was not about them, just wanted to see what people would say.

quote:
Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
Kinda depends on the size of the deal. If $10 is a fraction of the total value involved I would take the hit. If the total value is $25, I would think twice. If you really don't wanna go through if you have to pay the $10 extra, just say you're sorry explain the situation to him. Perhaps you can split the extra $10 or perhaps the other person doesn't mind paying $10 extra. It is after all the price for shipping in this situation.

It was a $70 transaction, and they were awesome about it and offered $5 more to offset my loss. Great person.

quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Just keep in mind that if the other person doesn't agree to drop the trade, this would be considered backing out of a confirmed trade and could lead to a valid BTA case and karma smack.

I already shipped it knowing the loss. I was in no way backing out or trying to get more money. Just seeing what other people would do in the situation.

Thanks for all the opinions on the matter. I would think it would come up more since alot of people ship all over the world. Jason

 
majicman
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Would suggest in the future that you check your local post office web site for pricing based on options you are offering and the weight of the package.

If you sell/trade a lot, maybe a small scale from Walmart may be something you could pick up in the future.

Good luck...Greg

 
dwiz
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posted July 26, 2011 06:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for dwiz Click Here to Email dwiz Send a private message to dwiz Click to send dwiz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View dwiz's Trade Auction or SaleView dwiz's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by I3Iood:
So I quoted someone a shipping price ($5), to another country, and they paid and everything and I went to ship it and it came out to be $15 shipped (which is 3x what they paid). I understand that I quoted him and do not feel he owes me anything because of my mess-up, but what would you do in this situation? Jason

What did you ship, like 600 cards in a flat rate envelope?

 
nderdog
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quote:
Originally posted by I3Iood:
I already shipped it knowing the loss. I was in no way backing out or trying to get more money. Just seeing what other people would do in the situation.

I figured that you would have known, I was posting the info for the benefit of others who would be reading the thread that might not know any better.

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edsillars
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posted July 26, 2011 07:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for edsillars Click Here to Email edsillars Send a private message to edsillars Click to send edsillars an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Personally, I would absorb the loss, not mention it to the other party, and chalk it up as a valuable lesson that only cost me $10. I've paid much more for lessons.
 
riemann-zeta
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posted July 26, 2011 07:32 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for riemann-zeta Click Here to Email riemann-zeta Send a private message to riemann-zeta Click to send riemann-zeta an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
the first time i shipped more than a couple cards overseas i told the other party to just send payment minus the shipping and they could send a 2nd payment after i returned from the post office..worked out fine.

 
MTDetermine
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posted July 26, 2011 08:08 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MTDetermine Click Here to Email MTDetermine Send a private message to MTDetermine Click to send MTDetermine an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
What did you ship, like 600 cards in a flat rate envelope?


Doubt so. $70 of cards, $15 shipping means he sent ~10 cards via registered mail.

600 cards in Flat-Rate envelope is possible, but that will mean the cards' average price are $0.10-0.15....UC/C or bulk rares

 
dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by MTDetermine:
Doubt so. $70 of cards, $15 shipping means he sent ~10 cards via registered mail.

600 cards in Flat-Rate envelope is possible, but that will mean the cards' average price are $0.10-0.15....UC/C or bulk rares


If he quoted someone $5 on international registered mail, it's his own fault for being clueless about pricing.

 
I3Iood
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posted July 26, 2011 08:41 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for I3Iood Click Here to Email I3Iood Send a private message to I3Iood Click to send I3Iood an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
I figured that you would have known, I was posting the info for the benefit of others who would be reading the thread that might not know any better.


Thanks for keeping the faith!

quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
What did you ship, like 600 cards in a flat rate envelope?



It was a duel deck and about 25 singles to Austria. The funny thing about it is I sent 2 factory sealed sets to Germany last month and it was $18 for the 2 together. I quoted him $5 with the knowledge I would eat a few $ in shipping.

quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
If he quoted someone $5 on international registered mail, it's his own fault for being clueless about pricing.

It was not that and I think you should be careful who you call clueless when you have no idea what you are talking about. I have shipped many many thing overseas, and I am willing with ebay, librarities, and here, I have shipped much much more than you have overseas in the last year. Thanks for the helpful input.

quote:
Originally posted by edsillars:
Personally, I would absorb the loss, not mention it to the other party, and chalk it up as a valuable lesson that only cost me $10. I've paid much more for lessons.

I have also paid much much more that that in lessons.

Also this thread was not about me complaining or asking what to do or even my situation. I just wanted to see what the community would have done. Jason

 
flophaus
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posted July 27, 2011 08:08 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for flophaus Click Here to Email flophaus Send a private message to flophaus Click to send flophaus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
On an international deal, I would have pre-calculated the shipping. (Taken it down to the P.O. and asked "how much to this addy?")
 
dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by flophaus:
On an international deal, I would have pre-calculated the shipping. (Taken it down to the P.O. and asked "how much to this addy?")

You can do that online at usps.com

 

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