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Back from Disney World!!

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It was fun seeing it through the eyes of the eight year old. Although, of course, his tastes were not the same as mine.

We enjoyed Hollywood Studios, Epcot, and Magic Kingdom. We were staying at an Animal Kingdom property, with animals just outside our rooms so we could see them from the balcony. As no one was really into the animals, that was enough and we skipped the Animal Kingdom park entirely. The Toy Story ride was awesome, and the 3-D shows were all very good. We were there for Leap Day, when Disney opened the Magic Kingdom for 24 hours (6 AM - 6 AM, normal is about 8 AM-9PM). We made it until midnight, when the eight-year-old's battery just suddenly ran completely dry. Fireworks every night was cool, and the Making Memories show at Magic Kingdom at the end of the day was pretty impressive. And my sister and kids spent a day at Sea World and had a grand time. My wife and I had seen it several times in San Diego, so we passed and relaxed by the pool. Weather was pretty good (mid-80's) and only one 40 minute rain shower.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
Shiny Dude is sending me:

3 Lingering Souls --> 15 each
1 Faithless Looting
1 Diregraf Captain --> 10 each
1 Tracker's Instincts

61 points total.

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I got these cards today.

01 Lawbringer 1 pt.
01 Lightbringer 1 pt.
01 Zealot il-Vec 1 pt.
01 Elvish Guidance 1 pt.
01 Dreamscape Artist 1 pt.

--Evil

01 Lawbringer 1 pt.
01 Lightbringer 1 pt.

New wants:

01 Zealot il-Vec 1 pt.
01 Elvish Guidance 1 pt.
01 Dreamscape Artist 1 pt.

--Evil

M12 Players Guide - Offer of 20 points
Dark Ascension Players Guide - Offer of 20 points
2x Sakura Tribe Elder (1 point each)
9x 0/1 Plant token (Worldwake)
4x 4/4 Angel token (Innistrad)

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It has come to my attention that I have not been spending nearly as much time on MOTL as I used to. And I keep coming here and being surprised at how long it has been since I did an update. I have come to the realization that I am no longer coming here often enough to do a proper job of managing the Card Exchange.

I took on the job because the previous administrator had just - stopped administrating. I don't want to see the position pass on to the next person the same way. So I would like to announce that I am planning to retire from being the MCE administrator, and want to make a clean transition of the position to someone else willing to keep it flowing smoothly.

If you're interested and willing, post here.

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I nominate revenger!

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MeddlingMage being to modest. He wants it. I know he does.

I could be interested, but as the Admin of the MCE, there is something I would love to change. The listing of commons/uncommons/rares equal to a certain amount. Like, I mean, to prevent someone going into the negatives.

Another change I would love to make, more pubilicty.

and another change I would like to see done, assigning a point value to mythic cards (Some I can understand, Jace, TMS would be like 1202389474528 points, but what about, say, Obsidian Fireheart? Quicksilver Gargantuan? Sphinx Ambassador?

I would def have to think it over.

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Originally posted by revenger:
I could be interested, but as the Admin of the MCE, there is something I would love to change. The listing of commons/uncommons/rares equal to a certain amount. Like, I mean, to prevent someone going into the negatives.

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That's how it started out, but it became too limiting. If people can post more cards, it's more likely that someone else will find some to send them. As long as people play fair and make sure that their point totals stay away from the negatives, it's fine. It's rare that we have someone breaking the rules, but honestly, I don't think limiting the number of cards would make a big difference.

Points for mythic cards could work, maybe like 20 points or something.

I wish there was a way to make wants reasonable, but I gave up on that dream long ago. People asking for cards that are actually worth something at the same values as the crap that this exchange was designed for makes me sad.

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Originally posted by Devonin:
Mind you it seems like a self-correcting problem. If I see your list containing actual low value cards, I'll send them to you, and if I see your list as a cavalcade of one-dollar-plus commons, I simply won't. So it's not a huge deal.

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That's why it's never been addressed. I kind of assumed that eventually people would get the hint and put up more reasonable lists, but I've seen some of the stupid wants for far too long. It's not a real problem, just really frustrating when people are looking to give out cards, and finding that a lot of the cards are things that they would never actually consider sending out.

Reasonable lists tend to get taken care of fairly quickly, leaving these, possibly preventing additional people from joining because they have to give out a certain number of cards, but when they look and see largely big wants, they aren't likely to take the time to scan for stuff they'd actually want to give.

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10th edition foils(refer to my h/w list)

Who cares if someone wants a desirable card just ignore it and go on to another list.Its just like someones h/w list being
want:
xx fetches
xx p9
xx fow

Im sure those people get lots of trade offers.What really grinds my gears is people hoarding points and having no wants.Spread the wealth.Points are there to be used.Thats why this thread stays at a stalemate at times.Ask for far fetched wants,ask for crap,just ask for something please for the love of god.I mean if you get so many points are you going to get a prize?No.So just post wants.

my 2 cents

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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
Who cares if someone wants a desirable card just ignore it and go on to another list.Its just like someones h/w list being
want:
xx fetches
xx p9
xx fow

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The problem is that the ridiculous lists clutter things up and make most people stop looking. It's easy to ignore people with bad H/W lists. It's not easy to sift through the silly lists to find the reasonable people in an exchange like this. At best, it makes it harder for people to look for cards to give. At worst, it chases off potential new members who have to find cards to give before they can join, and if all they see are expensive cards, they're not going to even think about joining.

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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
What really grinds my gears is people hoarding points and having no wants.Spread the wealth.Points are there to be used.Thats why this thread stays at a stalemate at times.Ask for far fetched wants,ask for crap,just ask for something please for the love of god.I mean if you get so many points are you going to get a prize?No.So just post wants.

my 2 cents

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I don't think people are "hoarding" points just for fun. Personally, I just don't have time right now to sort through everything and figure out what I need. I haven't even touched my H/W list in weeks, so why bother with a list here that will likely just get glossed over in the midst of the more valuable cards?

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I don't mean to sound like I'm lashing out at you personally but every card you have listed has a monetary value connected to it, and that is not the reason why this thread was created.

Again, I don't mean to be pointing the finger but something has to change or this thread is going to the bottom.

Just so Shiny_dude isn't the only one being mentioned, everyone who's a member of the Card Exchange should take a good look at your wants and give them a second thought -especially Karakas Boy with 1 point- and maybe we can do something here.

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Please remove 2x Quirion Ranger from my list, somebody was nice enough to give me those.

Please add: Any common from Torment - c. 1pt. ea.

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Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
Shiny_dude, brother you have officially taken the majority of points in the Card Exchange. If you were to take down your money list and replace it with all commons and uncommons you could build a set in no time. If you did maybe people would follow by example and this thread would come back to life.

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Just to defend myself since you've named me specifically. I've realized that some points were not reasonable and PRIOR to this debate of what's going on, I had already included a disclaimer which said that "(all points negotiable within reason as I have a ton of points and am looking to spend it to finish playsets/decks)". Just once again, I would like to state that this was made PRIOR to this debate. (and if you check my other posts, a lot of the more pricier cards come with the "points negotiable" tag before this new blanket statement.

I have also, at more than one time, given out un/commons that were so called "money cards" ($1+) just to help someone out so I'm not sure why I can't ask for the same in retur. To my knowledge, I don't think anything I'm asking is too over the top as it's not like I'm asking for AEther Vials or Divining Tops or anything. If you don't want to send out, that's fine, no one is forcing you.

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Originally posted by Shiny_dude:
Just to defend myself since you've named me specifically. I've realized that some points were not reasonable and PRIOR to this debate of what's going on, I had already included a disclaimer which said that "(all points negotiable within reason as I have a ton of points and am looking to spend it to finish playsets/decks)". Just once again, I would like to state that this was made PRIOR to this debate. (and if you check my other posts, a lot of the more pricier cards come with the "points negotiable" tag before this new blanket statement.

I have also, at more than one time, given out un/commons that were so called "money cards" ($1+) just to help someone out so I'm not sure why I can't ask for the same in retur. To my knowledge, I don't think anything I'm asking is too over the top as it's not like I'm asking for AEther Vials or Divining Tops or anything. If you don't want to send out, that's fine, no one is forcing you.

I may not be the most active or the most updated with my list but I would say that most of the time that someone has requested a different point total than the default values, if I still needed the card, I have always either agreed or met in the middle somewhere.

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I just though I could tell you something man to man and hopefully you would see things rationally and with that be a leader and set an example for others.

But, unfortunately your in defense mode. WTF dude seriously a disclaimer! You say your not sure why you can't ask for the same in return. I know you might want to get a little bit of the value back from what you've given but the attitude "at least I'm not asking for tops and vials" is what has degenerated the thread to this point.

Hey, your gonna list whatever you want to, nobody can force you to do anything. But I'll tell you one thing for sure, this thread will NEVER pick up if somebody with a bunch of points doesn't change their wants to something that will be offered up. We are only working with a finite amount of points, someone has to give, someone with points.

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Originally posted by Shiny_dude:
I'm sorry but I don't quite get how saying that all my wants are point negotiable is a bad thing?

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