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yakusoku Member	posted September 19, 2011 03:36 AM 5-Card Blind (5CB) is a very unique game. The rules are as follows: * Your deck is composed of 5 cards, all of which start in your hand. * You have no library (technically, the library exists, but starts at 0 cards) and no sideboard (Wishes fetch nothing). * Random effects always go against the owner of the card. * You can see your opponent's hand, so you can always make the best possible play. * You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card. * You will play each opponent twice, once going first, once going second. * For each win, you score 3. * For each draw, you score 1. * For each loss, you get nothing. * A subgame played with the card Shahrazad where neither player has any means to win the subgame will result in an incomplete game and both players will receive ZERO points for that game, since the main game cannot be resumed. Neither player loses or draws, so neither player earns any points. * Other than the aforementioned, EVERYTHING IS HANDLED EXACTLY LIKE A REAL GAME OF MAGIC! Remember, it is important for your deck to include a way to cast your cards! (Lands, artifact mana, pitch cards, etc.) If you want to play PM me or send me an e-mail in this format: Subject should include "Vanishing 5-Card Blind" (Just click on the little PM icon above my post and it should work out that way.) Card #1 Card #2 Card #3 Card #4 Card #5 Be sure you really are happy with your deck before you submit. Once you send in a deck, there is no changing it except in the case of an illegal entry. Please make every effort to spell your card names correctly. It makes it easier for everyone. Thanks. The "Vanishing" part is the twist. To start off with, only Unglued, Unhinged and Ante cards are banned. After each round, the 5 cards in the winning deck plus any cards in more than 1/3 of the decks played will be banned for all future rounds. Any lands that only provide mana are exempted from the banning rules. Exceptions may be made for lands which are deemed too powerful for the environment such as Mishra's Workshop and Tolarian Academy. NO MISE DECKS! Any deck submitted MUST have some win condition. Any deck that can do no better than a draw against any possible deck will be rejected. A deck that can't win any game is mathematically eliminated from winning the round, and thus would just be taking a chance to win away from someone who could actually have a shot. ALL players will assist in judging. The way this will work is that after the submission period is over, After all decks are revealed, judge your own deck against every other deck (going first and going second). Post your findings here in this thread. They will be reviewed by everyone for accuracy. Once a winner is determined the winners deck will be added to the banned list and the next round will begin. Repeated failure to do your own scoring will result in suspensions! --------------Current banned list-------------- All Unglued cards All Unhinged cards All Ante cards All cards not appearing in Gatherer (World Champion, Shichifukujin Dragon, cards from a new set not yet released, etc.) Multicolored: Lightning Helix Meddling Mage Progenitus Tidehollow Sculler Colorless non-artifacts: Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Lands: Dark Depths Gemstone Caverns Ghost Quarter Inkmoth Nexus Karakas Maze of Ith Mishra's Factory Mishra's Workshop Mutavault Shelldock Isle Sheltered Valley Strip Mine Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Tolarian Academy Undiscovered Paradise Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Wasteland Artifacts: Amulet of Vigor Black Lotus Blightsteel Colossus Chalice of the Void Elixir of Immortality Ensnaring Bridge Isochron Scepter Lion's Eye Diamond Lodestone Golem Lotus Petal Mana Crypt Mana Vault Memnite Mox Emerald Mox Jet Mox Pearl Mox Ruby Mox Sapphire Phyrexian Processor Pithing Needle The Rack Scalding Tongs Sol Ring Sphere of Resistance Trinisphere Black: Bitterblossom Blackmail Bloodghast Cabal Therapy Contagion Dark Ritual Duress Exanguinate Funeral Charm Inquisition of Kozilek Leyline of the Void Mesmeric Fiend Nether Spirit Oona's Prowler Reanimate Smallpox Thoughtseize Unmask Vampire Hexmage Blue: Chain of Vapor Daze Disrupting Shoal Echoing Truth Foil Force of Will Force Spike Hive Mind Leyline of Anticipation Leyline of Singularity Mental Misstep Show and Tell Spell Snare Sphinx of Jwar Isle Tidal Warrior Web of Inertia Green: Berserk Chancellor of the Tangle Channel Elvish Spirit Guide Eureka Fastbond Invigorate Nature's Claim Noxious Revival Red: Blazing Shoal Burning Inquiry Chancellor of the Forge Pact of the Titan Red Sun's Zenith Seething Song Simian Spirit Guide Sneak Attack White: Balance Balancing Act Chancellor of the Annex Decree of Justice Leonin Relic-Warder Leyline of Sanctity Path to Exile Serra Ascendant Swords to Plowshares Winning decks that caused cards to be banned (History): Round 1, eschewing Black Lotus and Force of Will - yakusoku: Mishra's Workshop Ensnaring Bridge Trinisphere Scalding Tongs Scalding Tongs Round 1, played by over 1/3 of players: Black Lotus Force of Will Round 2, from s14sh3r: Mox Pearl City of Traitors Balance The Rack The Rack Round 2, played by over 1/3 of all players: Leyline of Anticipation Round 3, uncounterable - yakusoku: Leyline of Singularity Karakas Karakas Mishra's Factory Mishra's Factory Round 3, played by over 1/3rd of all players: Foil Round 4, almost perfect - yakusoku: Mox Emerald Mox Emerald Channel Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Pithing Needle Round 4, played by over 1/3rd of the field (3/7): Strip Mine Inkmoth Nexus Maze of Ith Round 5, he's in your mind, making you cast spells - LegendaryFerret: Tolarian Academy Mana Crypt Mana Vault Hive Mind Pact of the Titan Round 6, winning with A Rib of Cysts, A Parch of Vino, A Bleach Party, and some other stuff that's all mixed up - coinmagic45: City of Brass Chain of Vapor Cabal Therapy Burning Inquiry Nether Spirit Round 6, played by over 1/3rd of all players: Mox Sapphire Round 7, winning with lands and only lands - Magic1264: Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Wasteland Ghost Quarter Mutavault Mutavault Round 7, played by over 1/3rd of all players: Mesmeric Fiend Round 8, out of the Depths, I cry to you, oh Marit Lage - SageShadows: Dark Depths Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Thoughtseize Vampire Hexmage Vampire Hexmage Round 9, look at what he brought to Show and Tell - joz: Island Simian Spirit Guide Simian Spirit Guide Show and Tell Progenitus Round 9, played by over 1/3 of all players: Mox Jet Round 10, from a sneaky, sneaky guy - Myy: Blightsteel Colossus Sneak Attack Mox Ruby City of Traitors Seething Song Round 11, doing bad, evil things with black mana (like winning) - yakusoku Chancellor of the Annex Swamp Dark Ritual Oona's Prowler Reanimate Round 12, making Lightning strike the same place every turn - Myy: Isochron Scepter Lightning Helix City of Traitors Unmask Contagion Round 13, Dazing and Confusing - yakusoku: Island Tidal Warrior Tidal Warrior Mental Misstep Daze Round 14 - Blue spells for the win, Magic1264: Disrupting Shoal Force Spike Saprazzan Cove Web of Inertia Sphinx of Jwar Isle Round 15 - he may be immortal, but he can be killed, just not by more than one person, Numotflame96: Path to Exile Serra Ascendant Plains Elixir of Imortality City of Traitors Round 16, winning with Ulamog, but not THAT Ulamog deck - Numotflame96 and junichi: Swords to Plowshares Leonin Relic Warder Plains Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Fountain of Cho Lion's Eye Diamond Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Shelldock Isle Underground Sea Funeral Charm Round 16, played by over 1/3rd of all players: Channel Chancellor of the Tangle Eureka Round 17, 2 artifacts that tap 2 add 2 mana allowing 1st turn 4 cost spells are 2 good 4 this round - Magic1264: City of Traitors Sol Ring Sol Ring Lodestone Golem Phyrexian Processor Round 18, Resistance is futile - yakusoku: Ancient Tomb Chalice of the Void Decree of Justice Fountain of Cho Sphere of Resistance Round 19, NO, you can't cast that, so says - yakusoku: Leyline of Sanctity Meddling Mage Echoing Truth Plains Island Round 20, better than 39 other decks - LemonMeringue: Swamp Inquisition of Kozilek Bloodghast Undiscovered Paradise Smallpox Round 21, Izzet for real? Turn one counter every game - dfitzg88 Spell Pierce Gemstone Caverns Steam Vents Dwarven Hold Red Sun's Zenith Round 22, No Johnny-Combo-Come-Lately; he wins on turn 1 - LemonMeringue: Fastbond Elven Spirit Guide Amulet of Vigor Golgari Rot Farm Exsanguinate Round 23, Fiery, juiced-up Goblins with bear shirts for the win - Sage Shadows: Chancellor of the Forge Forest Invigorate Blazing Shoal Berserk Round 23, played by over 1/3rd of all players: Duress Round 24, if you aren't playing with double Lotus Petal, you just aren't trying - stab107 and Myy: Lotus Petal Lotus Petal Crystal Vein Balancing Act Memnite Swamp Lotus Petal Lotus Petal Blackmail Tideholow Sculler Round 25 - Twist on the ol' yakusoku special, stab107: Bayou Sheltered Valley Nature's Claim Bitterblossom Leyline of the Void Round 25, played by over 1/3rd of all players: Noxious Revival Winners List: 7 yakusoku 3 Magic1264 Myy 2 LemonMeringue Numotflame96 SageShadows stab107 1 coinmagic45 dfitzg88 joz junichi LegendaryFerret s14sh3r Decklists: 1. yakusoku Swamp Swamp Diabolic Edict Nezumi Shortfang Phyrexian Revoker 2. LemonMeringue Chrome Mox City of Traitors Magus of the Moon Manic Vandal Thorn of Amethyst 3. Bugger Plains Remote Farm Isamaru, Hound of Konda Crib Swap Aura of Silence 4. Pringlesman Lotus Bloom Lotus Bloom Pyrite Spellbomb Conjurer's Bauble Second Sunrise 5. dfitzg88 Culling the Weak Ornithopter Phyrexian Obliterator Cry of Contrition Swamp 6. Numotflame96 Flash Woodfall Primus mox diamond blinkmoth nexus island 7. stab107 Swamp One with Nothing Basking Rootwalla Basking Rootwalla Vengevine [Edited 1 times, lastly by yakusoku on September 22, 2011]
WeedIan Member	posted September 19, 2011 04:45 AM Didn't we have a tie in last round? Or does the tie go to the winner of 03/06? 01 X 0 0 0 2 0 6 6 14 02 6 X 0 0 0 0 2 6 14 03 6 6 X 0 0 6 6 6 30 04 6 6 6 X 2 0 0 6 26 05 2 6 6 2 X 6 6 6 34 06 6 6 0 6 0 X 6 6 30 07 0 2 0 6 0 0 0 6 14 08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 x 0
LemonMeringue Member	posted September 19, 2011 06:18 AM 34>30
WeedIan Member	posted September 19, 2011 08:10 AM quote: Originally posted by LemonMeringue: 34>30 I didn't even notice a 34. My bad. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
dfitzg88 Member	posted September 19, 2011 01:41 PM quote: Originally posted by LemonMeringue: 34>30 Things I've learned on MOTL
Numotflame96 Member	posted September 20, 2011 03:10 PM you know today i realized how much the modern bannings remind me of this game a bit. If it "wins" or too many people play it it gets banned...
Myy Member	posted September 20, 2011 06:18 PM quote: Originally posted by Numotflame96: you know today i realized how much the modern bannings remind me of this game a bit. If it "wins" or too many people play it it gets banned... I think we can ALL blame Yaku for giving WotC the idea of banning stuff in constructed. =/
dfitzg88 Member	posted September 20, 2011 07:52 PM quote: Originally posted by Myy: I think we can ALL blame Yaku for giving WotC the idea of banning stuff in constructed. =/ second
yakusoku Member	posted September 21, 2011 06:24 AM If I am that powerful and influential, I will take the blame. Today is the last day to submit a deck.
Bugger Member	posted September 21, 2011 01:04 PM > sees that lotus petal is now banned FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
Myy Member	posted September 21, 2011 02:51 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: > sees that lotus petal is now banned FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU yep, sorry Bugger, it was Menifest Destiny.
stab107 Member	posted September 21, 2011 08:12 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: > sees that lotus petal is now banned FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU Been a busy week so very unlikely I will threepeat.
yakusoku Member	posted September 22, 2011 07:19 AM The decklists have been posted. You may use other formats as well, but this one is a must. Also PLEASE make sure you use the proper deck number for your deck. Replace the '?' on the bottom line with the number next to your name on the decklist. Scoring: Play your deck against each other deck twice, once with you going first, once with them going first. Always remember that each deck is to be played perfectly. For each of the 2 games, score 3 points if your deck wins or 1 point if the game is a draw, with no points for a loss. Some examples: 2 wins (WW) is 6 points. A win and a draw (WD) is 4 points. A win and a loss (WL) is 3 points. 2 draws (DD) is 2 points. A draw and a loss (DL) is 1 point. 2 losses (LL) is 0 points. Plug YOUR deck number into the ? below the ##, and your score against each deck into the other slots. Do not play your deck against itself. Just enter an 'x' in the chart under your deck number. Please copy-and-paste the following code into your Message box in order to assist you with scoring: code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 TOTAL ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
dfitzg88 Member	posted September 22, 2011 10:48 AM 1. yakusoku (Draw-Loss) Swamp Swamp Diabolic Edict Nezumi Shortfang Phyrexian Revoker On the Play: I start with Swamp, Ornithopter, Cry of Contrition. He discards revoker probably. I haunt my Ornithopter. He plays swamp and passes. I play Culling the Weak, making him discard shortfang so he can edict and force a draw. On the Draw: He starts with Swamp. I start with Ornithopter, Cry of Contrition. He discards Revoker. I haunt my ornithopter. He plays Shortfang. I play Obliterator. He pays 2 to flip and races me. 2. LemonMeringue (Win-Loss) Chrome Mox City of Traitors Magus of the Moon Manic Vandal Thorn of Amethyst On the play: I play Swamp, Ornithopter, Culling the Weak, put out Obliterator. He has no way to kill it. I swing for game. On the draw: Thorn just ruins my deck. I lose. 3. Bugger (Win-Win) Plains Remote Farm Isamaru, Hound of Konda Crib Swap Aura of Silence On the play: Swamp, Ornithopter, Cry of Contrition. He discards Aura of Silence. He plays Remote Farm and passes. I Culling the Weak, he discards Isamaru. I put out Obliterator. His turn, he uses Crib Swap and I kill him with a 1/1. On the draw: He starts with Remote Farm. I play Ornithopter, Cry of Contrition. He discards Aura. He plays plains. I Culling the Weak, he discards either Crib Swap or Isamaru. I put out Obliterator. He either makes it a 1/1 OR plays a 2/2. I kill him either way. 4. Pringlesman (win-Win) Lotus Bloom Lotus Bloom Pyrite Spellbomb Conjurer's Bauble Second Sunrise Not really sure about this one. The interactions in this deck are a bit confusing. Let me know if I'm wrong On the play: I put out Ornithopter, Cry of Contrition, haunt ornithopter. I don't know what he discards. He suspends Blooms. I put out Obliterator, making him discard something else. He just loses. On the draw, the same thing happens. 5. dfitzg88 Culling the Weak Ornithopter Phyrexian Obliterator Cry of Contrition Swamp XX 6. Numotflame96 (Win-Draw) Flash Woodfall Primus mox diamond blinkmoth nexus island On the play: Swamp, Ornithopter, Cry of Contrition. He discards Mox Diamond. He plays Island. I play Culling the Weak, and he has to discard a combo piece, and loses to Obliterator. On the draw: He plays Island, Diamond, passes. I play Swamp, Ornithopter, Culling the Weak, Obliterator. He puts out Primus to kill my swamp. Someone blocks and its a draw. 7. stab107 (Draw-Draw) Swamp One with Nothing Basking Rootwalla Basking Rootwalla Vengevine I put out Ornithopter, Culling the Weak, Obliterator. He discards his hand to put out Vengevine and Rootwallas, but no one has good attacks. If I attack, he can race me by leaving back a creature after taking 15 points of damage, and if He attacks, I just block and make him sac stuff. On the draw, it looks the same. We just can't kill each other. code: ## 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 TOTAL 05 01 03 06 06 XX 04 02 22 [Edited 1 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on September 26, 2011]
Bugger Member	posted September 22, 2011 12:21 PM Not gonna lie, cry of contrition + culling the weak is pretty clever tech. Scoring to come later. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
Numotflame96 Member	posted September 22, 2011 07:34 PM 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 total 6 3 2 0 1 X 6 18 1. yakusoku WW Swamp Swamp Diabolic Edict Nezumi Shortfang Phyrexian Revoker he plays swamp, i flash in and kill a swamp. he can't cast anything 2. LemonMeringue WL Chrome Mox City of Traitors Magus of the Moon Manic Vandal Thorn of Amethyst on the draw he gets thorn out and wins. on the play he plays cot. if he plays i cast primus in responce to what ever he casts. i get a 5/5 vs his 2/2 3. Bugger DD Plains Remote Farm Isamaru, Hound of Konda Crib Swap Aura of Silence he plays a plains and isamaru. i cast flash in responce to him attacking or playing another land. if i cast primus before either of those things he crib swamps and i lose. so we stare since i cant attack do to having to tap my lands and not having mana open for flash 4. Pringlesman LL Lotus Bloom Lotus Bloom Pyrite Spellbomb Conjurer's Bauble Second Sunrise i lose to this race again 5. dfitzg88 LD Culling the Weak Ornithopter Phyrexian Obliterator Cry of Contrition Swamp he plays cry. i discard mox. i play land. he flashes back.i lose. when i lead primus trades with obliterator. 6. Numotflame96 XX Flash Woodfall Primus mox diamond blinkmoth nexus island 7. stab107 WW Swamp One with Nothing Basking Rootwalla Basking Rootwalla Vengevine he has a turn 1 4/3 i have a turn 1 5/5. i win. not going to get there.
dfitzg88 Member	posted September 22, 2011 11:57 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Not gonna lie, cry of contrition + culling the weak is pretty clever tech. Scoring to come later. I was trying to get it to work for a while but the decks were too fast. Too much discard/insta-kills. Now seemed like a good time... unfortunately, not stellar results.
LemonMeringue Member	posted September 24, 2011 05:54 PM 1. yakusoku - LL Swamp Swamp Diabolic Edict Nezumi Shortfang Phyrexian Revoker 2. LemonMeringue Chrome Mox City of Traitors Magus of the Moon Manic Vandal Thorn of Amethyst 3. Bugger - DD Plains Remote Farm Isamaru, Hound of Konda Crib Swap Aura of Silence 4. Pringlesman - WW Lotus Bloom Lotus Bloom Pyrite Spellbomb Conjurer's Bauble Second Sunrise 5. dfitzg88 - WL Culling the Weak Ornithopter Phyrexian Obliterator Cry of Contrition Swamp 6. Numotflame96 - WL Flash Woodfall Primus mox diamond blinkmoth nexus island 7. stab107 - WL Swamp One with Nothing Basking Rootwalla Basking Rootwalla Vengevine
stab107 Member	posted September 24, 2011 08:47 PM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 TOTAL 07 2 3 2 0 2 2 X 11 quote: Originally posted by Numotflame96: 7. stab107 WW Swamp One with Nothing Basking Rootwalla Basking Rootwalla Vengevine he has a turn 1 4/3 i have a turn 1 5/5. i win. I actually have two 1/1s and a 4/3. Primus's ETB trigger does nothing and unless you want to sacrifice the Primus on the offensive he's staying home. However, if you disacrd island to the mox and use your blinkmoth you can win eventually, so it really doesn't matter much in the end. [Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on September 25, 2011]
yakusoku Member	posted September 25, 2011 12:14 AM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 TOTAL 01 X 6 2 6 4 0 0 18
dfitzg88 Member	posted September 25, 2011 09:09 AM quote: Originally posted by stab107: code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 TOTAL 07 2 3 2 6 2 0 X 15 I actually have two 1/1s and a 4/3. Primus's ETB trigger does nothing and unless you want to sacrifice the Primus on the offensive he's staying home. However, if you disacrd island to the mox and use your blinkmoth you can win eventually, so it really doesn't matter much in the end. I'm pretty sure primus's trigger would force him to blow up one of his own permanents since you only have 1. he wont be able to activate blinkmoth.
Pringlesman Member	posted September 25, 2011 10:03 AM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Total 04 0 0 0 X 0 6 6 12 1 LL Phyrexian Revoker shuts down my win condition 2 LL Thorn of Amethyst ruins me. 3 LL Aura of Silence is really good against me. What is with the cost more cards this time around. 4 Null 5 LL Discard makes me sad 6 This combo does nothing to distrupt me, and I'm faster than it. 7 Stab107 I win the turn before he can kill me Went from getting 30 points to getting 12, sadface.
Bugger Member	posted September 25, 2011 02:55 PM code: ## 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 TOTAL 03 0 2 x 6 0 2 0 10 woooo double digits __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
dfitzg88 Member	posted September 25, 2011 08:13 PM If my horrible score is good enough, I'm going to throw a party lol
stab107 Member	posted September 25, 2011 09:22 PM quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: I'm pretty sure primus's trigger would force him to blow up one of his own permanents since you only have 1. he wont be able to activate blinkmoth. In that case the games go to DD, do they not? Thanks for poitning that out, sometimes ETB triggers that must target get by me. quote: Originally posted by Pringlesman: 7 Stab107 I win the turn before he can kill me You are absolutely right. For some reason I assumed the Blooms came back suspended, which doesn't make any sense at all. I should probably stop scoring when I'm exhausted...

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