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PortlisX
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posted October 25, 2011 01:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for PortlisX Click Here to Email PortlisX Send a private message to PortlisX Click to send PortlisX an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So I just got this phone call from a dude claiming to be "Daniel Brown".

He calls me, asks me if I'm interested in buying magic cards, and then proceeds to tell me that he usually sells bulk rares for .20 cents each, but he's got 10,000 that he's wanting to sell at .10 cents each and if I buy all of them, he'll throw in an unlimited Black Lotus (lol).

When I tell him sure, I'll pay him as soon as I receive the merchandise, he tells me that he's "not paying the $100 for shipping before getting paid". I of course proceed to tell him that shipping in 2 large flat rate boxes would only cost him 30 bucks, and that I've got the references to back up my request, but he of course refuses saying that he's not going to risk losing out on his shipping money if I scam him (oh... the irony lol).

Apparently he got my phone number from eBay by bidding on one of my items, then requesting seller information (didn't know that could be done... seems like quite a loophole).

Anyway, I'm obviously not following up with this likely scammer because I'm just not stupid enough to fall for stuff like this, but I'm just curious if others have been contacted in a similar fashion before. He spoke English of course, but sounded like an Asian guy (in case he goes by other names too, just trying to be descriptive). The phone number he called me from was 727-748-9770.

Just my curiosity and a public service announcement I suppose....

 
PortlisX
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posted October 25, 2011 01:18 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for PortlisX Click Here to Email PortlisX Send a private message to PortlisX Click to send PortlisX an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Replying to my own post heh...

Danny Cheung perhaps?

 
coasterdude84
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posted October 25, 2011 01:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for coasterdude84 Click Here to Email coasterdude84 Send a private message to coasterdude84 Click to send coasterdude84 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View coasterdude84's Trade Auction or SaleView coasterdude84's Trade Auction or Sale
It is a Florida area code, so it's probably him. He must really be getting desperate.
 
AlmostGrown
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posted October 25, 2011 01:56 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AlmostGrown Click Here to Email AlmostGrown Send a private message to AlmostGrown Click to send AlmostGrown an Instant MessageVisit AlmostGrown's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View AlmostGrown's Have/Want ListView AlmostGrown's Have/Want List
I just tried calling the number and a female voice picked up. After I asked, "Is this the residence of Daniel Brown?" she hung up. It seems to be a mobile phone, because when I called again it rang once, went to voicemail, and it said please leave a message for (phone number).
 
stacker
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posted October 25, 2011 05:55 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for stacker Click Here to Email stacker Send a private message to stacker Click to send stacker an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View stacker's Have/Want ListView stacker's Have/Want List
http://www.sellthisforme.info/

google etc

 
AlmostGrown
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posted October 25, 2011 06:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AlmostGrown Click Here to Email AlmostGrown Send a private message to AlmostGrown Click to send AlmostGrown an Instant MessageVisit AlmostGrown's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View AlmostGrown's Have/Want ListView AlmostGrown's Have/Want List
LOL @ the link for the name at the bottom of the website
 
gaeacradle
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posted October 25, 2011 06:35 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for gaeacradle Click Here to Email gaeacradle Send a private message to gaeacradle Click to send gaeacradle an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View gaeacradle's Have/Want ListView gaeacradle's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
LOL @ the link for the name at the bottom of the website

Hahaha. Seriously though, I hope he gets hit by a bus.

 
Hooskdaddy
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posted October 25, 2011 07:44 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Hooskdaddy Click Here to Email Hooskdaddy Send a private message to Hooskdaddy Click to send Hooskdaddy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Wow this guy is busy. Sadly, if he put as much effort into being a legitimate trader as he did into scamming people, he would probably be making some serious bank.
 
PortlisX
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posted October 25, 2011 08:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for PortlisX Click Here to Email PortlisX Send a private message to PortlisX Click to send PortlisX an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
LOL @ the link for the name at the bottom of the website

ROFL! I clicked on it and up pops this old white guy. I know you can't tell everything with just a phone conversation, but he definitely wasn't an old white guy =P

That link was comedic gold though.

 
MagixDK
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posted October 26, 2011 01:49 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Remember, you always keep 50% or half of what the item sells for

ooh tough choice... should i go for 50% or half?

 
Drexus
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posted October 26, 2011 06:57 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Drexus Click Here to Email Drexus Send a private message to Drexus Click to send Drexus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
How does he make money off that scam?? seems like the risk to the guy falling for the scam is neg feedback/s?
 
Ovinomancer
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posted October 26, 2011 07:03 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Ovinomancer Click Here to Email Ovinomancer Send a private message to Ovinomancer Click to send Ovinomancer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Drexus:
How does he make money off that scam?? seems like the risk to the guy falling for the scam is neg feedback/s?

You list the fake stuff and sell it on your ebay account. You send him half the money. He never sends the buyer anything. Buyer files claim against you and gets all their money back. He still has half the money...

 
keywacat
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posted October 26, 2011 07:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for keywacat Click Here to Email keywacat Send a private message to keywacat Click to send keywacat an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View keywacat's Have/Want ListView keywacat's Have/Want List
But if you follow ths:

quote:
(You do not have to pay me until I have shipped the mtg beta booster boxes to the buyer. You do not pay me until they have the item in hand.)

How will he get the money? If you stay with it and send him nothing until you have positive feedback or confirmation the buyer received it sounds like he would get nothing, you would get a refund request. :-/

 
baldr7
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posted October 26, 2011 07:20 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for baldr7 Click Here to Email baldr7 Send a private message to baldr7 Click to send baldr7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ovinomancer:
You list the fake stuff and sell it on your ebay account. You send him half the money. He never sends the buyer anything. Buyer files claim against you and gets all their money back. He still has half the money...

Actually it says you only pay him when tey receive, so it does confuse me how he profits off of this. Unless he has an ebay account where he could buy it himself, say he received, and then recant and file a claim?

 
Drexus
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posted October 26, 2011 07:36 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Drexus Click Here to Email Drexus Send a private message to Drexus Click to send Drexus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
That's what I'm getting at. If you follow his instructions the only scenario which I can think of where you are at risk is the one posted by baldr but even in that case I think you could take measures to protect yourself and possibly come out winning.

edit: spelling

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Drexus on October 26, 2011]

 
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Is it really even worth the risk? The guy is indisputably a dishonest scamming crapweasel. I suspect that the scam involves shipping to himself, then after he receives payment, he'll file a claim that the contents were wrong or something along those lines. Since you're not the one doing the shipping, there is no way for you to properly protect yourself to ensure that you won't be hosed.

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Meddling Pimp
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posted October 26, 2011 08:39 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Meddling Pimp Click Here to Email Meddling Pimp Send a private message to Meddling Pimp Click to send Meddling Pimp an Instant MessageVisit Meddling Pimp's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by stacker:
http://www.sellthisforme.info/

google etc


Whois on the domain:

Registrant ID:CR69474197
Registrant Name:Mike Chen
Registrant Organization:ebay
Registrant Street1:Po box 6034
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Tallahassee
Registrant State/Province:Florida
Registrant Postal Code:32314
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8503297096
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:mike.chen111@yahoo.com


[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on October 26, 2011]

 
Hooskdaddy
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posted October 26, 2011 08:49 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Hooskdaddy Click Here to Email Hooskdaddy Send a private message to Hooskdaddy Click to send Hooskdaddy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
That's the same information except for the name of the guy who was trying to scam me.

I'm actually a bit surprised that he's not had this behaviour beaten out of him yet. Seems that's he's taken enough people that odds say he would've met a violent sucker already. Or at the very least been arrested.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Hooskdaddy on October 26, 2011]

 
baldr7
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posted October 26, 2011 08:57 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for baldr7 Click Here to Email baldr7 Send a private message to baldr7 Click to send baldr7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Has he actually taken anyone for a significant amount though?
 
anklbreka20
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posted October 27, 2011 06:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for anklbreka20 Click Here to Email anklbreka20 Send a private message to anklbreka20 Click to send anklbreka20 an Instant MessageVisit anklbreka20's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View anklbreka20's Trade Auction or SaleView anklbreka20's Trade Auction or Sale
So this?

http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220882228915

 
Hooskdaddy
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posted October 27, 2011 06:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Hooskdaddy Click Here to Email Hooskdaddy Send a private message to Hooskdaddy Click to send Hooskdaddy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by anklbreka20:
So this?

http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220882228915


yeah most likely

 
Keyser Soze
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posted January 02, 2012 12:22 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Keyser Soze Send a private message to Keyser Soze Click to send Keyser Soze an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I just had some fun with this nutball scammer. He's getting real desperate to even agree to meet but of course not show up. He calls me one morning and asks to do the job you're all familiar with. Little does he know I have a vast network of associates all over the country that could meet him and verify if he's legit and has the goods. He said he owns Fallout Comics store in Tallahassee FL and he can meet me there. He of course doesn't show up and goes on this broken record thing about just providing me his own pictures. I say no of course, we need to take pictures ourselves but to humor him, I say send me pics with our business name for ebay seller so can post it. I was surprised when he sent it to me. This moron probably thinks he's dealing with another moron like himself and sends me an Innistad Booster Box picture; not even close to the value of a Beta Booster Box. He kept insisting that it's legit and just to post it NOW. I said he can send it to me and I will pay when it gets here. He disagrees and said why would he send it without getting paid first? Well, there goes the flaw in his thinking because it would have been the same thing: His instruction in his website is to sell it in ebay, buyer pays and I don't have to send him any money until I receive positive feeback which is indication of receipt. Now correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that the same thing as him sending it to me and I pay him once I verify the goods? At first I thought this guy is a criminal genius if he's been able to pull this off. Now after giving him the run around for the past two days and evaluating his frame of thought, this guy is an idiot. I was giving him too much credit initially. He counters saying he'll do it for $400. I mean $400 for a Beta Booster Box? Holy crap, I'll buy the whole lot (he says he has 3). Needless to say, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because part of me was wishing this was real so I can make some good money reselling. I have buyers wiling to fly from New York to pick it up as well. Well, I offered to meet in person with a couple of buyers, cash in hand, including myself and he balked. Like anybody's surprised right. Anyways, here's his IP address if anybody wants to do anything with it: 98.138.90.252
His other phone number is 850-559-7194. Heck, I can even start another thread with just that phone number's history. Oh by the way, either he did it himself of found a sucker but I found an ebay auction with the same exact words he wanted me to use. It was taken down right after I called him out on his scam. I regret not taking a screenshot at first but total rookie work. User had zero reviews (scam alert 1), priced too low (scam alert 2), ebay ID was only made yesterday (scam alert 3), had no actual pictures, only generic stock pics (scam alert 4). And what is it with calling himself "Dr". That right there raised some flags with me. I have a lot of friends who are either medical doctors or has a doctorate degree and none of them introduces themselves as Dr. so-and-so. Well, just wanted to put info out there so I can assist in exposing this moron of a scam artist. Tags: dr.danielbrown.yahoo.com 727-748-9770, 850-559-7194, Fallout Comics, MTG Beta Booster Box, sellitforme1.com, www.listitforme.info, daniel cheng chang
 
JasonX-NL
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posted January 02, 2012 10:55 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JasonX-NL Click Here to Email JasonX-NL Send a private message to JasonX-NL Click to send JasonX-NL an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well, I guess his booster boxes sold out. He's on to Rolex Watches now! ($20,000)

http://sellitforme1.com/

 
Scared of Nature
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I may have pranked him.
 
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posted January 03, 2012 10:18 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Keyser Soze Send a private message to Keyser Soze Click to send Keyser Soze an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Do tell!
 

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