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Topic: Concerns with Arabian Nights boosters
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MTDetermine Member
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posted November 22, 2011 01:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hypnotic Spector: Thanks guys. Thanks a ton. This is exactly the type of feedback I was looking to get. As it stands I'm a little more skeptical about purchasing a pack now. And the people who say it's for the experience are right on the money. The thrill of opening one, heck even just having the pack is awesome.
I have a SEALED Revised booster pack that is in real LOUSY condition. No doubt it was searched before (have never seen a booster pack in even worse condition). I tried to search it (its not that easy) and identified the rare inside (nothing great). Got it as a gift and I really like it so much that I still keep it (sealed). If you want to spend money to buy an old pack for the experience, why not openly advertise for a "Searched Pack"? Its much cheaper, and you still get the experience of opening a Rare old booster pack.
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nderdog Moderator
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posted November 22, 2011 07:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hypnotic Spector: Thanks guys. Thanks a ton. This is exactly the type of feedback I was looking to get. As it stands I'm a little more skeptical about purchasing a pack now.
The only question you really have to answer is do you think it's worth spending $150+ just to have the fun of opening an old pack. You aren't likely to get nearly $50 of value, so as long as you're comfortable losing that much money to have that experience, go for it! __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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valorale Member
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posted November 25, 2011 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Samite Healer: Anyone that is telling the original poster to not buy the sealed pack because of dollar value reasons is wrong. He is puchasing the pack for the EXPERIENCE of opening the pack, so that he can say "hey, I opened an AN pack!" and be in the fewer than 1% to have ever done so.
So the reason he is asking about the probability of the pack being searched is because he is concerned with the 'experience'?
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Bagbokk Member
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posted November 25, 2011 01:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by valorale: So the reason he is asking about the probability of the pack being searched is because he is concerned with the 'experience'?
There's a difference between "don't buy a pack to open unless you can make sure it hasn't been searched because you're guaranteed junk" and "don't buy a pack to open even if it's unsearched because you aren't going to make your money back." I don't agree with opening a $200 pack for the "experience" of doing so even when it's unsearched, but hey, it's not my place to question how someone wants to spend their money as long as it doesn't affect me.
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flophaus Member
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posted November 25, 2011 02:04 PM
I love opening boosters too... but when I do so, the thrill of it arises from the fact that I can have the possibility of getting something worth way more than the pack cost... (ie. A Snappy foil from INN) Not just to feel the "thrill" of shifting cellophane into an opened state.
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aws New Member
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posted August 19, 2012 04:28 AM
I just picked up a couple of packs of Arabian Nights and I have some concerns. The packs show some wear, and from reading this it is likely they have been searched. I guess it's to be expected that 20 year old packs would be worn a bit. I'm wondering if the wear is consistent with what would happen when someone does search them. I attached some pictures, hopefully it will be possibly to make out what I am seeing. There is wear along the edges of the back, both in the middle and near the bottom. Maybe from people holding them while sliding one card at a time around? One also has a piece of tape the runs across the back of the pack. It doesn't look like it's been resealed or that the tape is even covering anything relevant, but it's still strange. Edge Back Back 2 It probably doesn't matter too much since I didn't buy them with the intention of opening them, but I'd like to at least know what I am dealing with in case I ever sell them later. With all the talk of how easy to was to search them I tried holding the packs up to various bright lights but I couldn't see anything but a shadow. Even if I saw a Bazaar or something I wouldn't open it, but I'd just like to know, especially if others have already seen what's inside.
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pugowar Member
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posted August 19, 2012 04:54 AM
As far as T&T selling searched packs... About 2 years ago I bought 40 packs of future sight from them. Got 0 Tarmogoyfs and only 2 foils. Also got multiples of about 8 rares. (including 3 copies of 2 of them). Statistically possible but highly unlikely.It was my fault for buying loose boosters, but I wouldn't say they are above selling searched items. Just my thoughts.
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airwalk Member
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posted August 19, 2012 12:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by aws: I just picked up a couple of packs of Arabian Nights and I have some concerns. The packs show some wear, and from reading this it is likely they have been searched. I guess it's to be expected that 20 year old packs would be worn a bit. I'm wondering if the wear is consistent with what would happen when someone does search them. I attached some pictures, hopefully it will be possibly to make out what I am seeing. There is wear along the edges of the back, both in the middle and near the bottom. Maybe from people holding them while sliding one card at a time around? One also has a piece of tape the runs across the back of the pack. It doesn't look like it's been resealed or that the tape is even covering anything relevant, but it's still strange. Edge Back Back 2 It probably doesn't matter too much since I didn't buy them with the intention of opening them, but I'd like to at least know what I am dealing with in case I ever sell them later. With all the talk of how easy to was to search them I tried holding the packs up to various bright lights but I couldn't see anything but a shadow. Even if I saw a Bazaar or something I wouldn't open it, but I'd just like to know, especially if others have already seen what's inside.
Assume they are searched.
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dwiz Member
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posted August 19, 2012 03:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by aws: I just picked up a couple of packs of Arabian Nights and I have some concerns. The packs show some wear, and from reading this it is likely they have been searched. I guess it's to be expected that 20 year old packs would be worn a bit. I'm wondering if the wear is consistent with what would happen when someone does search them. I attached some pictures, hopefully it will be possibly to make out what I am seeing. There is wear along the edges of the back, both in the middle and near the bottom. Maybe from people holding them while sliding one card at a time around? One also has a piece of tape the runs across the back of the pack. It doesn't look like it's been resealed or that the tape is even covering anything relevant, but it's still strange. Edge Back Back 2 It probably doesn't matter too much since I didn't buy them with the intention of opening them, but I'd like to at least know what I am dealing with in case I ever sell them later. With all the talk of how easy to was to search them I tried holding the packs up to various bright lights but I couldn't see anything but a shadow. Even if I saw a Bazaar or something I wouldn't open it, but I'd just like to know, especially if others have already seen what's inside.
You have to assume every pack is searched. But you search from the top, on the front.
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Havoc Demon Member
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posted August 19, 2012 08:32 PM
If I were you, I would actually keep the pack intact, since I think it would be cooler to actually have an Arabian Nights pack than open one. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 80th All-timeSupport my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
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ryan2754 Member
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posted August 19, 2012 08:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Havoc Demon: If I were you, I would actually keep the pack intact, since I think it would be cooler to actually have an Arabian Nights pack than open one.
+1
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aws New Member
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posted August 19, 2012 09:58 PM
Yeah I have no interest in opening them no matter what they contain. I'd just like to be able to tell people what is inside if I ever sell it, since they will presume I have searched it even if I haven't.Now I just have to figure out a good way to do see inside. All I can see right now is the silhouette of the card. Do I backlight the pack or shine a light straight on the front? Neither seem to be working for me.
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MTDetermine Member
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posted August 20, 2012 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by pugowar: As far as T&T selling searched packs... About 2 years ago I bought 40 packs of future sight from them. Got 0 Tarmogoyfs and only 2 foils. Also got multiples of about 8 rares. (including 3 copies of 2 of them). Statistically possible but highly unlikely.It was my fault for buying loose boosters, but I wouldn't say they are above selling searched items. Just my thoughts.
I doubt one can search newer booster packs. But there are some shops that take a booster box, open packs until they got some nice money rares, and set the rest of the packs aside to sell as loose packs. Much easier for Future Sight where basically 1 Goyf is worth like all other rares add up together.
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caquaa Member
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posted August 20, 2012 01:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by MTDetermine: I doubt one can search newer booster packs.
I personally opened a box of zendikar and picked out 8 packs and opened 8 foils. Drafted the rest of the box and there were no foils. I know its doable to easily pull the foils out of a box. The pattern to the rares has proven to be solved for some sets. It can be done, it just takes more effort then it is worth.
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Drexus Member
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posted August 20, 2012 03:52 AM
mapping i think is doable, but taking out the foils is not worth the effort. if you do it for fun then by all means go ahead but from being able to pick out foils myself I doubt it's considered good time management from a stores perspective
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southparker2002 Member
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posted August 20, 2012 04:02 AM
So what was the first set that came out that stopped the searching of packs ability?
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mnDiff Member
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posted August 20, 2012 04:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by southparker2002: So what was the first set that came out that stopped the searching of packs ability?
- it was the Foreign Black Bordered REVISED edition for German + French language ... as Italian FBB still has the searchable type of wrapper - then the first foiled wrappers were the Foreign White Bordered REVISED edition for GERMAN + FRENCH language ... as Italian FWB also still has the searchable type of wrapper - and the first edition to have ALL languages in non searchable wrappers were : 4th edition, Ice Age then every other set In other words "searchable" sets are: - Alpha - Beta - Unlimited - Arabian Nights - Antiquities - Legends - The Dark - Fallen Empire - Revised/Summer (english) - Italian Revised FBB - Italian FWB Revised now if we talk about "mappable" editions ... that's totally different
[Edited 2 times, lastly by mnDiff on August 20, 2012]
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Drexus Member
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posted August 20, 2012 04:54 AM
anyone have a list of mappable editions? and to extend on the question, if it's got the wizards shrink-wrap on would you consider it "safe"?
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Link139232 Member
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posted August 24, 2012 10:19 AM
I bought a box of Onslaught from Super Games in Georgia for $100 back in 2008. Zero fetches. It was shrink wrapped, but I didn't know at the time that it wasn't actually the wizards wrap, just some other method.Being uneducated sucks, but at least I had fun drafting the 36 boosters.
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D'Shay Member
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posted August 30, 2012 07:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by aws: I just picked up a couple of packs of Arabian Nights and I have some concerns. The packs show some wear, and from reading this it is likely they have been searched. I guess it's to be expected that 20 year old packs would be worn a bit. I'm wondering if the wear is consistent with what would happen when someone does search them. I attached some pictures, hopefully it will be possibly to make out what I am seeing. There is wear along the edges of the back, both in the middle and near the bottom. Maybe from people holding them while sliding one card at a time around? One also has a piece of tape the runs across the back of the pack. It doesn't look like it's been resealed or that the tape is even covering anything relevant, but it's still strange. Edge Back Back 2 It probably doesn't matter too much since I didn't buy them with the intention of opening them, but I'd like to at least know what I am dealing with in case I ever sell them later. With all the talk of how easy to was to search them I tried holding the packs up to various bright lights but I couldn't see anything but a shadow. Even if I saw a Bazaar or something I wouldn't open it, but I'd just like to know, especially if others have already seen what's inside.
can you give me more info about the crimp on the pack that runs vertically? it is very difficult to search it if that is still connected/crimped to the pack, let us know please
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aws New Member
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posted August 30, 2012 07:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by D'Shay: can you give me more info about the crimp on the pack that runs vertically? it is very difficult to search it if that is still connected/crimped to the pack, let us know please
The vertical flap or crimp or whatever you call is still connected to the pack and has not been pulled up like you would do when opening the pack. I didn't think this had anything to do with be able to search them though.
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D'Shay Member
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posted August 30, 2012 12:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by aws: The vertical flap or crimp or whatever you call is still connected to the pack and has not been pulled up like you would do when opening the pack. I didn't think this had anything to do with be able to search them though.
I personally think it does as they try and shuffle cards to see thru the pack, and this "crimp flap" becomes separated due to the shuffling, even if it is slight just my .02 *edit* Spelling
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