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mm1983
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 posted November 28, 2011 01:32 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for mm1983 Click Here to Email mm1983 Send a private message to mm1983 Click to send mm1983 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mm1983's Have/Want ListView mm1983's Have/Want List
This question is in terms of selling here on MOTL only, not playing. Are Collector's Edition cards or world champion gold bordered cards considered to be proxy cards or not?
 
psrex
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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
This question is in terms of selling here on MOTL only, not playing. Are Collector's Edition cards or world champion gold bordered cards considered to be proxy cards or not?

Those are all real cards. If it's an official WoTC product then all is good.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
This question is in terms of selling here on MOTL only, not playing. Are Collector's Edition cards or world champion gold bordered cards considered to be proxy cards or not?

You can sell them here. But you have to say what they are. Don't say "Wasteland" and then send gold bordered cards. People will assume you're selling the tournament-legal cards.

 
wayne
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 posted November 30, 2011 02:04 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View wayne's Have/Want ListView wayne's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
This question is in terms of selling here on MOTL only, not playing. Are Collector's Edition cards or world champion gold bordered cards considered to be proxy cards or not?


Depends on how you define proxy because those cards are not tournament legal.

 
mm1983
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I figured anything that was a WOTC official product was legal to sell or trade here on MOTL whether it is tournament legal or not. My next question is are the foil P9 cards a WOTC product or just something that someone made on their own to sell?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

Depends on how you define proxy because those cards are not tournament legal.

For the purposes of being legal to trade/sell them on MOTL, it's anything that infringes on copyrights. Any product produced by WotC is fine. Gaming Etc. P9 are okay, as they were careful to avoid using names, artwork, mana symbols, etc. Most other proxies are not okay.

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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
My next question is are the foil P9 cards a WOTC product or just something that someone made on their own to sell?

Those are illegal copyright infringement and are not produced by Wizards.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Gaming Etc. P9 are okay, as they were careful to avoid using names, artwork, mana symbols, etc. Most other proxies are not okay.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Those are illegal copyright infringement and are not produced by Wizards.

Did I miss something? Because this seems contradictory.

 
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The foil P9 that people make themselves have the following problems:
Original art
Original names
Original text

Gamingetc proxies don't use any of those.

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