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bawitheba
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posted December 09, 2011 02:46 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for bawitheba Click Here to Email bawitheba Send a private message to bawitheba Click to send bawitheba an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View bawitheba's Have/Want ListView bawitheba's Have/Want List
I have looked I think it is. I am not a expert though.
It passes the bend and water test.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260912124056&ssPageName=ADME:B:ONA:US:1120#ht_1959wt_922

 
Mr. Ruboonia
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posted December 09, 2011 04:49 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Ruboonia Click Here to Email Mr. Ruboonia Send a private message to Mr. Ruboonia Click to send Mr. Ruboonia an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want ListView Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want List
Probably a fake given his language in the auction. It would be a lot easier to tell if he posted a high resolution scan.
 
AGO
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posted December 09, 2011 05:09 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for AGO Click Here to Email AGO Send a private message to AGO Click to send AGO an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View AGO's Trade Auction or SaleView AGO's Trade Auction or Sale
70% sure it was real
it is a little pixely
NO REFUNDS
This card is being sold as a proxy
1x Scrubland (Proxy or Beta??)

With the way he has worded the auction it seems like a scam.

 
Mr. Ruboonia
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posted December 09, 2011 06:19 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Ruboonia Click Here to Email Mr. Ruboonia Send a private message to Mr. Ruboonia Click to send Mr. Ruboonia an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want ListView Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
70% sure it was real
it is a little pixely
NO REFUNDS
This card is being sold as a proxy
1x Scrubland (Proxy or Beta??)

With the way he has worded the auction it seems like a scam.


To summarize, it would behoove you to pass on this auction.

 
Tha Gunslinga
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posted December 09, 2011 07:11 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tha Gunslinga Click Here to Email Tha Gunslinga Send a private message to Tha Gunslinga Click to send Tha Gunslinga an Instant MessageVisit Tha Gunslinga's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or SaleView Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or Sale
Looks real to me from the scans, but it could be fake. The thing is, a fake Beta Scrubland is likely to be Dark Beta, and it doesn't look like Dark Beta in the picture. The other possibility is rebacked CE, but he did bend-test it, and rebacked CE wouldn't look "a little pixelly."

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Mr. Ruboonia
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posted December 09, 2011 07:16 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. Ruboonia Click Here to Email Mr. Ruboonia Send a private message to Mr. Ruboonia Click to send Mr. Ruboonia an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want ListView Mr. Ruboonia's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Looks real to me from the scans, but it could be fake. The thing is, a fake Beta Scrubland is likely to be Dark Beta, and it doesn't look like Dark Beta in the picture. The other possibility is rebacked CE, but he did bend-test it, and rebacked CE wouldn't look "a little pixelly."


I assume dark beta cards will pass the bend test, too?

 
caquaa
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posted December 09, 2011 08:17 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
or he could shoot a few pics of his real scrubland and mail you the fake. Theres a reason why people pay premiums to buy in person. besides, its just a scrubland.
 
lickaneye
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posted December 09, 2011 11:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for lickaneye Click Here to Email lickaneye Send a private message to lickaneye Click to send lickaneye an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I came across something similar to this about 6 years ago and I wouldn't be suprised if this card came from the same batch. The seller at the time had a bunch of different beta for sale and I had made an agreement with him to buy a Beta Sea for $25 to test its authenticity. It turned out to be a proxy...
The two major red flags I noticed were:

1. The roset pattern was blurry under under a 10x loupe.
With the nake eye, this blurriness created a smearing
look up close. Think of a really high quality Xerox...
This alludes to the pixilation the seller refers to in
my mind.


2. Although the card passed the bend test. I could tell
the thickness of the card was slightly off, thinner.
It seemed that someone had printed on the front and
back of a piece cardboard instead of sticking two
pieces of cardboard together. (Please note, I typically
don't do bend tests on cards. Flex test to 45 degrees
is sufficient for me. And water test is just a no no)

It's defintely a possiblity that these two issues apply to this particular card in the auction. All the signs are there. The picture that draws the most attention to me is the picture of the back of the two cards. Next to a normal printed Magic card, it is easier to notice smearing, light and dark spots (like a Xerox).

 
coasterdude84
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posted December 09, 2011 11:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for coasterdude84 Click Here to Email coasterdude84 Send a private message to coasterdude84 Click to send coasterdude84 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View coasterdude84's Trade Auction or SaleView coasterdude84's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by lickaneye:
I came across something similar to this about 6 years ago and I wouldn't be suprised if this card came from the same batch. The seller at the time had a bunch of different beta for sale and I had made an agreement with him to buy a Beta Sea for $25 to test its authenticity. It turned out to be a proxy...
The two major red flags I noticed were:

1. The roset pattern was blurry under under a 10x loupe.
With the nake eye, this blurriness created a smearing
look up close. Think of a really high quality Xerox...
This alludes to the pixilation the seller refers to in
my mind.


2. Although the card passed the bend test. I could tell
the thickness of the card was slightly off, thinner.
It seemed that someone had printed on the front and
back of a piece cardboard instead of sticking two
pieces of cardboard together. (Please note, I typically
don't do bend tests on cards. Flex test to 45 degrees
is sufficient for me. And water test is just a no no)

It's defintely a possiblity that these two issues apply to this particular card in the auction. All the signs are there. The picture that draws the most attention to me is the picture of the back of the two cards. Next to a normal printed Magic card, it is easier to notice smearing, light and dark spots (like a Xerox).


This sounds like Dark Beta to me.

As for the card in the auction, he goes a little too far to prove its authenticity for me to trust it. Had he just posted a good scan of the front and back and called it beta, I probably wouldn't have questioned it. Overall, it seems fishy, and I'd pass if I were you.

 
simbayu
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posted December 09, 2011 12:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for simbayu Send a private message to simbayu Click to send simbayu an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
If thats fake its the best fake I've ever seen. Looks very authentic to me in the pic.
 
dwiz
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The auction won't last, either way. It'll be pulled just because he said it may be fake.
 
TimeBeing
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posted December 09, 2011 03:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for TimeBeing Click Here to Email TimeBeing Send a private message to TimeBeing Click to send TimeBeing an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by simbayu:
If thats fake its the best fake I've ever seen. Looks very authentic to me in the pic.

My guess is the card you will get isn't the card you see being tested.

 

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