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shwin
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posted December 21, 2011 06:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for shwin Click Here to Email shwin Send a private message to shwin Click to send shwin an Instant MessageVisit shwin's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
How does this work for dark confidant at 1 life? Can I just be like nah...not feeling it?

Game Play Error — Missed Trigger
Definition
A game event triggers, but the player controlling the trigger is unaware of its existence and/or forgets to perform the
actions specified by the trigger. For the purposes of this infraction, the card drawn during the Draw Step in a game is
considered to be a non-optional trigger.
Examples
A. A player has Braids, Cabal Minion on the battlefield. After he has declared attackers, he realizes that he has
failed to sacrifice a permanent to Braids' upkeep trigger.
B. A player realizes that she forgot to remove the final counter from a Suspend spell.
C. A player forgets to pay Cumulative Upkeep for a creature.
D. A player forgets to reveal and put a card into his hand from his Dark Confidant trigger during his upkeep.

I dont know if Dark confident is beneficial or not. Put cards in hand match with

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Originally posted by Puts cards from your library, graveyard, or exile zones into your hand or onto the battlefield. This includes drawing cards. :


but lose life/reveal card are not beneficial
 
fluffycow
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Or they can make it easy, by letting the opponent decide the outcome if you forget a trigger.

So for example, if you forgot to trigger dark confidant when you are at 20, your opponent will most likely not let you do it, but if you are at 1, he will most likely force you to flip. So that way you have to be conscious of game state bc anything you forget will work against you.

 
Devonin
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posted December 21, 2011 09:18 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Devonin Click Here to Email Devonin Send a private message to Devonin Click to send Devonin an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Devonin's Have/Want ListView Devonin's Have/Want List
Or the rules as stated in the update just don't include Dark Confidant because of the way the card works, and wondering how it would work is moot. You must do it. Always.
 
Schwingzilla
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posted December 23, 2011 10:47 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Schwingzilla Click Here to Email Schwingzilla Send a private message to Schwingzilla Click to send Schwingzilla an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Schwingzilla's Trade Auction or SaleView Schwingzilla's Trade Auction or Sale
In case anyone stumbles upon this thread in the future:

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28790499/January_2012_IPG_Revisions?sdb=1

Apparently the rule was removed.

I think we can all agree it was because they read my post and the issues my examples raised.

You're welcome.

 
mm1983
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As far as I knew the only way to avoid the howling mine effect is if it was tapped before a draw phase. This would be true for any other artifact with a draw phase or upkeep trigger.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mm1983 on December 23, 2011]
 
thror
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Such a simpler fix. "You are not required to inform your opponent of a missed trigger." That's all we wanted. Thank you Wotc.

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