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Dancam1
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posted March 10, 2012 09:39 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Dancam1 Click Here to Email Dancam1 Send a private message to Dancam1 Click to send Dancam1 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hey fellow MOTLers,
I have a question about foreign magic cards. I see everyone looking for foreign cards and they seem to carry a "premium" or even a multiplier effect in cases, sometimes, they sell for more even on ebay. And sometimes, they sell for less.

My question is this: IN general, what is the rule of thumb for buying/trading foreign cards? Are they more /less valuable? I'm not talking about italian legends, or FBB, I'm talking like russian shards of alara, or german conflux etc. I know many on here like them and was considering getting a box, but, if it is a terrible investment, then why would i? For ex, boxes of Future sight go for an insane 300, but, I saw an Italian box on ebay for about 200. Why is it so much lower? Is it that some foreign languages are good to buy, others are bad? I'd love some insight.

I got my tax refund and am itching to buy something, and don't mind buying something to trade off here for other stuff that I need, but, at the same time, don't want to spend 200 on something and pull the goyf, and no one wants it.
thanx in advance for reading my question and getting back to me.
Dan

 
thror
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posted March 10, 2012 10:11 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for thror Send a private message to thror Click to send thror an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View thror's Trade Auction or SaleView thror's Trade Auction or Sale
Foriegn bulk is nearly worthless. So when you crack a box, you'll have a pile of unsellables, and hope that the rares/foils/really sought after stuff is amazing. But generally, buying a foreign box is just like buying an english box - you will lose money just opening it.

Japanese, Korean, Russian are languages that are generally worth more than english. German is close to the same as english, Italian, french, spanish, portuguese, and chinese are generally less.

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Volcanon
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posted March 10, 2012 04:15 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Biggest consideration here is that all of those cheap casual cards that go for smaller money? If they aren't English you'll have a much harder time moving them because casual players like cards they can read.
 
Lord Crovax
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posted March 10, 2012 04:27 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Biggest consideration here is that all of those cheap casual cards that go for smaller money? If they aren't English you'll have a much harder time moving them because casual players like cards they can read.

EDIT: New players like cards they can read, EDH is very much casual and very much a format where people like to Pimp out decks including foreign.

Hate towards foreign is geared towards New Players these days, as casual players are evolving.

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Mr.C
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posted March 10, 2012 06:38 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.C Click Here to Email Mr.C Send a private message to Mr.C Click to send Mr.C an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Mr.C's Have/Want ListView Mr.C's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
EDIT: New players like cards they can read, EDH is very much casual and very much a format where people like to Pimp out decks including foreign.

Hate towards foreign is geared towards New Players these days, as casual players are evolving.


My foreign EDH staples are nigh untradeable. Sometimes I can move Japanese/Russian, but other languages? Forget it.

 
Lord Crovax
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posted March 10, 2012 09:00 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
My foreign EDH staples are nigh untradeable. Sometimes I can move Japanese/Russian, but other languages? Forget it.

Japanese, Korean, Russian are whats in demand.

Occasionally you can find someone who likes French or German or whatever, but that's just valued lower, always has been always probably will be.

Nothing new there, so don't see how it applies to what you quoted me saying in any way shape or form...

Also I've noticed lately a higher demand for non-foil of the big three languages...I remember when people only gave premium to foil...*nods*

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Speed Demon
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posted March 11, 2012 01:15 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Speed Demon Click Here to Email Speed Demon Send a private message to Speed Demon Click to send Speed Demon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Speaking of foreign cards...

Chaff is chaff I have assumed just from the general people in this thread (and the T/V thread I made)..

However, how much of a premium is there for playable cards (obviously depends on language, but I mean the rare, hard to find ones, like russian/jap/korean)?

 
caquaa
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posted March 11, 2012 01:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
Chaff is chaff

nah, bulk rares are typically desired to be english. Same usually goes for other bulk. Finding a buyer that wants non-English is rough.

 
choco man
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I've noticed that the print quality is very different for non-English cards for new in-print sets.

Has the difference been always as remarked?

What is the allure of getting unreadable cards when they literally are unreadable?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on March 11, 2012]

 
Lord Crovax
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posted March 11, 2012 03:30 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
Speaking of foreign cards...

However, how much of a premium is there for playable cards (obviously depends on language, but I mean the rare, hard to find ones, like russian/jap/korean)?


Depends on the Card, and how many formats it sees play in...also foil vs nonfoil...

Lately I've been seening a good 5-10+ increase on eternal playable nonfoils...more on older chase cards like jace TMS...

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