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Originally posted by rats60:
Wayne Gretzky is a little girl. Michael Jordan is the man.

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Did Wayne Gretzky bully you when you were in school?

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Originally posted by rats60:
You didn't miss anything on Wayne Gretzky. No one cares about him. Wayne Gretzky is a little girl. Michael Jordan is the man. You missed out big time not buying his cards. The right Jordan cards are worth a lot of money (thousands of dollars) and still rising in value.

I just laugh whenever an ignorant MTG player tries to comment on Sports Cards. MTG has replaced Sports Cards in popularity, but they are penny stocks compared to Sports Cards S&P 500.

If you had been smart enought to buy Jeremy Lin rookie cards at the beginning of the year, they were 20-30 dollars. Today they are $2000.00. When has a brand new magic card every sold for that kind of money? Sports Cards still are and will always be solid investments.

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Originally posted by jshields:
I guess this is funny history lessons of how each of us got schooled one way or another in Magic.... Well - I learned to play magic around the end of 1999 // start of 2000 and my very favorite decks back in the day were red//green aggro decks. A friend of mine brought his collection out to trade // sell cards from one day and I remember being pumped to see a thallid. Yes --- A THALLID!!! I thought you could add infinite counters to the (now piece of junk) common and it was an instant win, so I had to get it from him for the low low price of $5.00 (What a deal, I thought!). However, after a few months of learning how to play and that upkeep triggers only happen once, did I learn the lesson of just how junky thallids have been over the years. Talk about getting schooled and an unforgettable history lesson!

About 3 years ago, during the end of the Time Spiral block, I posted this same story on mtgsalvation and it ended up winning a top place prize for the scrubbiest trade ever done. My prize for my $5 history lesson ended up being around a sealed booster box of Future Sight, which significantly became a silver lining on my dark cloud, as I opened 1 foil Akroma's Memorial, 5 magus of the moon, 3 horizon canopy, and 1 tarmogoyf in the box. I guess stupidity sometimes does pay - in this case, about $200.00 in trading cards for a story and $5 bill!

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That's a great story. Hey, isn't there a way now to actually do that? Get infinite counters on the Thallid? I think there is with Proliferate. So, 10 years after the trade, YOU BREAK THE GAME!! cool.

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Originally posted by Dancam1:

First off, You should watch what you say. Not every MTG player is ignorant of sports cards. I happen to be very smart and savvy.

I say yes, there are very few post 90 RC's worth that kind of cash. I think u can list them on one hand.

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Your last statement disproves your original claim. There are too many to list one one hand. Just like you being upset over not saving Gretzky cards when you should be upset about not saving Jordan cards. It's not just RCs that have value, do you really have a clue about how many different Jordan cards have 4 or 5 digit price tags?

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Originally posted by rats60:
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How long is MTG going to survive? Will it still be going 100 years from now? At the point that it dies, your investment turns bad.[B]

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You're really worried about what your cards are going to be worth when youre 130 years old?

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Originally posted by rats60:
Your last statement disproves your original claim. There are too many to list one one hand. Just like you being upset over not saving Gretzky cards when you should be upset about not saving Jordan cards. It's not just RCs that have value, do you really have a clue about how many different Jordan cards have 4 or 5 digit price tags?

As far as if you should you sell Lin cards, it depends upon if you think he will be a good player in the future. Michael Jordan was the #1 athlete of the 20th century. That is never going to change. As far as MTG and your Black Lotus. It depends upon what you paid for it. There certainly are new Sports Cards that sell for more raw and I'm sure that if they were PSA/BGS 10 also. How long is MTG going to survive? Will it still be going 100 years from now? At the point that it dies, your investment turns bad. It is much more likely that MTG dies before MLB, NFL or NBA.

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I am less convinced that you really know the craft the way you say you do. There are very few cards post 93 that SELL for more then a thousand. Sure, they might be worth it, but, the actual market is much lower. You say more then just RC's are worth cash, but, that isn't entirely true. You love Jordan, so, lets use him. The only card that will appreciate at an exponential rate is his rookie card. The ONLY rc worth having is the Fleer 86. Yes, you have the Star 84 and a special set here and there, but, they were more of a promo and some collectors don't actually recognize it as his true RC. His true RC was in Fleer. That is the one you want if u want the big money.

Also, any real collector knows that only one grading company is worth paying the massive fee to send your card in, and the same is true for magic cards too. That company is BGS. There is no other company worthy of the huge price to get your card graded. For ex, a regular Jordan Fleer RC is worth around 600, however, if you get it graded by PSA, or BCCG or any other company other then BGS and it is not worth nearly as much. GAI 9.5 isn't worth as much as PSA and that isn't worth as much as BGS. Unless you have unlimited funds, why would anyone buy a second year Jordan card BGS 850.00 when they could get his rookie card, BGS 9 for 1700? What is the better investment for your kids? It is clearly his RC.

I have made folks a lot of cash on sports cards, got my friend 2k for sending his Walter Peyton RC in to be graded and it came back 9.5. Sure, u might get more cash going to a private auction house, but, then again, you might not.
So, I'd love to see a list of post 93 sports cards that SELL for over 1k. I'm not talking some 1/1 or 1/3 subset crap that never holds its value. Those types of cards are really Jekyll- Hyde. I've seen those set rare cards sell for 800.00 one day, and then, no one wants it and it drops to 250.00. Sets of super rare subset cards are very hard to move. If you pack it, great, but, to actually buy it and save it, that is not a good investment.

Lastly, you do bring up a good point. What about MTG? Well, I am shocked the P9 keep going up year after year. You say when it dies out, well, when will that be? Next year, magic turns 20. Sales are still very strong world wide. When will magic die and when will the market flood with cards? I have no clue at this point. No one does. The same is true for pokemon and Yugioh to a much lesser extent.