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mnDiff
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posted May 22, 2012 08:02 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mnDiff Click Here to Email mnDiff Send a private message to mnDiff Click to send mnDiff an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Just a simple question ...

Immagine that you start collecting MTG as an Investment purpose ...
which type of collection do you think will gain the most value in the next couple years (MTG 20th birthday, + more and more people into MTG) :

- 1. Sealed Booster & Starter OLD Displays
(from Beta days passing trough FBB and all Revised then Alternate & Korean 4th, Japanese old editions, Russian since 9th, and Korean back since 2012)

- 2. Misprints singles which are Unique cards
(Summer edition & Misprints)

- 3. Strictly OLD singles High Value Cards
(P9, Duals, FoW,..)

- 4. Strictly NEW editions Sealed Boxes
(as you can get them at their regular price and some will gain in value with the years but its rare to see sealed items loose value with years )

- 5. A Mix of a bit everything
(as some sealed boxes might loose value and some other gain in value and some Singles might drop as well while some might gain value too)

... which one would you go for ??


[Edited 1 times, lastly by mnDiff on May 22, 2012]

 
B14ckM4g3
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posted May 22, 2012 09:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3 Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3 Send a private message to B14ckM4g3 Click to send B14ckM4g3 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Definately 2 for me.
 
rats60
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posted May 22, 2012 09:14 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for rats60 Click Here to Email rats60 Send a private message to rats60 Click to send rats60 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View rats60's Have/Want ListView rats60's Have/Want List
4 English only boxes.
 
southparker2002
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#2
 
CoupDeGrace
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2. Period.
 
hilikuS
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posted May 22, 2012 09:56 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
5
 
sigfig8
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For investment purposes, I'd go with 3 but only highly graded cards. Also 5.
 
GenghisTom
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posted May 22, 2012 11:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for GenghisTom Click Here to Email GenghisTom Send a private message to GenghisTom Click to send GenghisTom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
3 for sure,

There's a very small market for unique cards and they tend to remain fairly stagnant.

Legacy playables have increased several times over in the last five years due to an increasing number of competitive players in the format over the world.
Every time someone says duals have peeked, they increase another 10 dollars each.

 
lordofthepit23
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posted May 22, 2012 01:45 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for lordofthepit23 Click Here to Email lordofthepit23 Send a private message to lordofthepit23 Click to send lordofthepit23 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
#3 for sure.

I wouldn't touch the other stuff. That certainly isn't to say there isn't a market (often a strong market) for the others, but no other option combines the appreciation potential and the easy liquidity.

 
Volcanon
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posted May 22, 2012 02:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
English boxes can be reasonably expected to appreciate. But if it's a bad set then it won't. And you'll have to wait 5+ years to maybe see any real return.

I suppose I should give the usual caution here that magic is a very poor investment if you want big returns and something like low-risk bonds would be a much better idea. Yes I realize this is a bit silly coming from somebody who made a killing off portal 3 cards.

 
mm1983
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posted May 22, 2012 02:31 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for mm1983 Click Here to Email mm1983 Send a private message to mm1983 Click to send mm1983 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mm1983's Have/Want ListView mm1983's Have/Want List
1 because I like buying old booster boxes of certain sets to crack open the hard to find singles and to guarantee NM condition on the cards I want to have for personal play sets

3 because I am a long time player and more so a collector now but the old high dollar singles almost never lose value.

 
valorale
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posted May 23, 2012 06:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for valorale Click Here to Email valorale Send a private message to valorale Click to send valorale an Instant MessageVisit valorale's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Dont really like anything specific that you listed but I guess #2 is the closes thing as I would target Summer and Alpha cards.
 
wayne
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3 for me.
 
MagicPatty
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posted May 24, 2012 03:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagicPatty Click Here to Email MagicPatty Send a private message to MagicPatty Click to send MagicPatty an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View MagicPatty's Have/Want ListView MagicPatty's Have/Want List
As an investment? ...you'd have to go with 5. Diversify your portfolio!
 
hilikuS
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posted May 24, 2012 07:59 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by MagicPatty:
As an investment? ...you'd have to go with 5. Diversify your portfolio!

My reasoning as well. With number 3, you're probably going to pay close to what everything is worth even though you're buying as a collection. There'll be room for profit, but not as much as the 5th option IMO.

Basically, everybody is up on the prices for FoW, P9 etc. The diverse collection always has the less obviously valuable stuff, and thus more money money.

If you're buying to play with the stuff, go with the goodies of course . Although for EDH I still prefer the diverse pile. Lots of crappy rares are amazing in EDH.

 
Jtrade77
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posted May 24, 2012 11:06 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Jtrade77 Send a private message to Jtrade77 Click to send Jtrade77 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Depends on the amount of capitalization and the desired rate of return.

If you have hundreds of thousands, then 2, specifically Summer Edition dual lands.

If you have tens of thousands, then 3, specifically dual lands and other legacy playables on the reserved list.

If you have thousands a combo of 3 and 4 is best, with the ratio dependent on how much non-liquidity you can stand as 4 will likely be very illiquid for at least five years.

If you only have a few hundred here and there, then NONE OF THE ABOVE... get yourself an MTGO account, and start redeeming and reselling sets.

Note, this is my opinion and I'm not investing in MTG currently.

 
rats60
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posted May 24, 2012 11:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for rats60 Click Here to Email rats60 Send a private message to rats60 Click to send rats60 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View rats60's Have/Want ListView rats60's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Jtrade77:
If you have thousands a combo of 3 and 4 is best, with the ratio dependent on how much non-liquidity you can stand as 4 will likely be very illiquid for at least five years.

This is not true. Rise of the Eldrazi is 2 years old and been out of print for about a year and is worth about double what it cost. Who wouldn't want a 100% profit in about a year?

Mirrodin Besieged has only been out of print for about 6 months and you could make a 40-50% profit. New Phyrexia has been out of print even less time and would return you a profit of about 70% today.

 
hilikuS
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I guess maybe a good investment is just a good investment lol.
 
Jtrade77
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posted May 24, 2012 12:48 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Jtrade77 Send a private message to Jtrade77 Click to send Jtrade77 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
This is not true. Rise of the Eldrazi is 2 years old and been out of print for about a year and is worth about double what it cost. Who wouldn't want a 100% profit in about a year?

Mirrodin Besieged has only been out of print for about 6 months and you could make a 40-50% profit. New Phyrexia has been out of print even less time and would return you a profit of about 70% today.


And Saviors of Kamigawa still isn't going for the retail price of the box. I don't believe M *whatever* is either. I suppose the lesson there might be pick and choose the sets you invest in carefully, rather going for a blanket investment on every new set.

 
rats60
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posted May 24, 2012 02:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for rats60 Click Here to Email rats60 Send a private message to rats60 Click to send rats60 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View rats60's Have/Want ListView rats60's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Jtrade77:
And Saviors of Kamigawa still isn't going for the retail price of the box. I don't believe M *whatever* is either. I suppose the lesson there might be pick and choose the sets you invest in carefully, rather going for a blanket investment on every new set.

Saviors was also closed out by WOTC at a deep discount. They haven't done that since Saviors/8th ed/Unhinged. Also anyone "investing" at retail price rather than wholesale is doing it wrong.

 

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