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Topic: Cards you like that don't make it in tournaments.
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farsk8dutch
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posted August 01, 2012 10:32 PM
         
I like these cards and they seem powerful but are apparently outclassed.Artifacts
Empyrial Plate/Manriki Gusari White
Abolish/Land Tax Green
Rendering Vines/Berserk Red
"More burn lists that win." Blue
Commandeer/Illusionary Terrain Black
Royal Assassin/Phyrexian Obliterator
For some reason it took me a minute to think of two black cards that are good but don't make the tournament scene. What cards do you like that don't make the A list.
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Solidarity
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posted August 01, 2012 10:37 PM
Accumulated Knowledge and Fact or FictionIt's kind of sad to see that these once-powerful draw engines are now totally outclassed.
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GremCards
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posted August 02, 2012 12:36 AM
Rune Scarred Demon.
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skizzikmonger
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posted August 02, 2012 01:05 AM
Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas. The card is bonkers, but no one's found the right deck for him yet.
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Soldier Boi
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posted August 02, 2012 04:59 AM
Some of the cards chosen are used in tournaments.Manriku Gusar - This card was in many SB's when Stoneblade was the number 1 deck to beat, which was only a year ago. Its still a tier 1 deck but since Stoneblade is almost the only deck that uses Stoneforge Mystic many people took it out. Land Tax - This card has been added to the new Miracle control deck, which has been getting top 8 at multiple SCG events. Red - Burn is a tier 1 deck. Its like dredge, when people forget about it, it wins. It's just easy to hate out. Fact or Fiction - this is played in Blue Nic Fit which is played in tournaments just happen been successful enough to top 8 yet. Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas - UB Tezz Control made top 16 I think at a SCG event a few months ago. Also some affinity lists use this card. I watched an MTGO modern event last week and Affinity with Tezzeret won 1st.
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mcelraca
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posted August 02, 2012 06:14 AM
I don't know if it really should be on this list but one of my favorite cards (and always seems to have good results) isGuiltfeeder I also vote for Phyrexian Obliterator, but it was already mentioned
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coolio
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posted August 02, 2012 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Soldier Boi:
Red - Burn is a tier 1 deck. Its like dredge, when people forget about it, it wins. It's just easy to hate out.
you're joking right? it's like tier 3 in standard, seems like the same in modern.. and legacy.. it's the worse combo deck.. you have no deck manipulation, no.. "1 turn, go off, kills".. burn's never really a tier 1.. © __________________
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SageShadows
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posted August 03, 2012 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by Soldier Boi:
Some of the cards chosen are used in tournaments.Manriku Gusar - This card was in many SB's when Stoneblade was the number 1 deck to beat, which was only a year ago. Its still a tier 1 deck but since Stoneblade is almost the only deck that uses Stoneforge Mystic many people took it out. Land Tax - This card has been added to the new Miracle control deck, which has been getting top 8 at multiple SCG events. Red - Burn is a tier 1 deck. Its like dredge, when people forget about it, it wins. It's just easy to hate out. Fact or Fiction - this is played in Blue Nic Fit which is played in tournaments just happen been successful enough to top 8 yet. Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas - UB Tezz Control made top 16 I think at a SCG event a few months ago. Also some affinity lists use this card. I watched an MTGO modern event last week and Affinity with Tezzeret won 1st.
Manriki-Gusari- People quickly dropped it when they realized how narrow and gimmicky it was. Land Tax- It's seen play in some UW Miracle Decks, but the multiple Top 8's you are referring to probably are non Land Tax decks. Burn- Winning randomly once in a while doesn't mean it's Tier 1. Tezz actually sees some marginal, non gimmicky play though.
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Mateo26
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posted August 03, 2012 03:23 AM
Burn won two Legacy SCG opens earlier this year, with a few more top 8s as well. It isn't always the best metagame choice, but in the right field, it can be a good call.quote:
Originally posted by coolio:
you're joking right? it's like tier 3 in standard, seems like the same in modern.. and legacy.. it's the worse combo deck.. you have no deck manipulation, no.. "1 turn, go off, kills".. burn's never really a tier 1.. ©
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coolio
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posted August 03, 2012 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by Mateo26:
Burn won two Legacy SCG opens earlier this year, with a few more top 8s as well. It isn't always the best metagame choice, but in the right field, it can be a good call.
random win doesnt make it tier 1 © __________________
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-Seneca the Younger
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CoupDeGrace
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posted August 03, 2012 04:18 AM
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Drexus
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posted August 03, 2012 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by CoupDeGrace:
psychatog
QFE.... Mr Teeth will never be feared again :/
Wish there was a place for him!
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coasterdude84
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posted August 03, 2012 06:55 AM
Sinkhole. As efficient as it is, with Hymn and Bob, there's no room for another double black 2-drop. It's a shame really.Agreed on Mr. Teeth. I miss him and Tradewind Rider.
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GenghisTom
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posted August 03, 2012 07:59 AM
Goblin Welder, just not quite as good in legacy.
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hilikuS
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posted August 03, 2012 08:26 AM
WellThoughtpicker Witch
Deadeye Navigator
Hull Breach
Cream of the Crop Of course, these go nuts for me in EDH, but that doesn't mean any of them are competitive.
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dfitzg88
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posted August 03, 2012 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Deadeye Navigator
He's only been out for 3 months. I think he'll definitely be relevant at one point or another. There's a guy at my local LGS who goes nuts with Navigator and either Conscripts, Thragtusk, or Acidic Slime. If I weren't playing delver, it might be hard to beat. As for my list;
Puresteel Paladin
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth (always overshadowed by his big brothers)
Chandra, the Firebrand
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hilikuS
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posted August 03, 2012 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
He's only been out for 3 months. I think he'll definitely be relevant at one point or another. There's a guy at my local LGS who goes nuts with Navigator and either Conscripts, Thragtusk, or Acidic Slime. If I weren't playing delver, it might be hard to beat.
Are you saying I should own more than 25 of them? His ability is no doubt awesome, but I feel like the cost is what'll prevent him from making the cut. Although with titans and Wurmcoil heading out, maybe.
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djcards
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posted August 03, 2012 07:52 PM
I really wanted sundial of the infinite to do something cool... maybe in the future...
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revenger
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posted August 04, 2012 09:53 AM
Imo~ Boom/Bust. The red armageddon quickly faded. Call of the Herd. Still own like 8 of em. Royal Assassin. Nostalgic card. Morphling. Simply better blue critters now. Condemn. Path to Exile has replaced this has the 1 cc white removal spell.__________________
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choco man
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posted August 04, 2012 12:33 PM
A lot of really cool cards that aren't quite up to snuff, see good use in alternative formats.At least, that's where I use Molten-tail Masticore. That guy is so cool.
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Zeckk
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posted August 05, 2012 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by choco man:
A lot of really cool cards that aren't quite up to snuff, see good use in alternative formats.At least, that's where I use Molten-tail Masticore. That guy is so cool.
His biggest drawback was the fact that he was an artifact creature. otherwise he would have been a house.
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FleeceItOut
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posted August 05, 2012 08:08 PM
Fact or Fiction, Terravore
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jaromirjagr
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posted August 07, 2012 06:46 PM
steel hellkite in a control deck.even though hes six mana i put one in all my edh decks.I always thought he would have a place.Awesome removal creature.
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guruswamp
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posted August 07, 2012 07:47 PM
god i hope someone makes quirion dryad work again.......so irritating lolstupid snapcaster makes that a tough feat though
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ogre
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posted August 08, 2012 02:22 PM
Reckless abandonR, Sac a creature: Does 4 damage to a creature or player. Ran these in my buddies zoo deck a couple of years ago and people were like "what?" but it got him to the semi-finals in a ptq or gpt. It was fun to watch. I could go on, but not really thinking about this right now so that's it. .02,
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