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Topic: Compiling Alpha Hoarder List
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twinkletwinkle New Member
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posted September 27, 2012 11:43 PM

So I lost a lot of my collection in a fire recently. Which is forcing me to replace my alpha/beta collection. A number of folks have informed me that certain alpha cards are being 'hoarded'. In fact, some of the hoarders are on this board. Hoarders seem to congregate on this website. I'm trying to track down the Alpha Animate Wall & Alpha Laces & Pirate Ship & Island Sanctuary hoarder. I know who the Zombie Master guy is (he posted on my thread) and the Deathlace guy (also posted, more than 1 hoarder on this card). I remember he tried to buy a bunch of cards from me years ago and showed me his collection. I think he had maybe 350 Alpha Animate Walls at the time and stacks of alpha laces. This was years ago, he probably has a lot more now. He was in his early 30s. I remember he wore glasses. He sent me his email, but I have changed accounts multiple since then, so I have no way to track him down. I went to his condo briefly to talk about selling my collection to him, but I can't remember for the life of me where he lived. I literally just found out that there were only 1100 of each alpha rare printed. I thought it was more like 10 times that many. I would have been more impressed with his collection if I had known how few had been printed. Does anyone know how to track him down? He probably is on this message board or has posted in the past. If anyone can help me get in touch with him it would be much appreciated. I'm trying to recreate my collection and certain cards are really hard to buy in any volume and I know it's because hoarders like him are sitting on mountains of them. I'm trying to put together a list of the alpha hoarders as a public service to all alpha collectors, but I also need to do it for my own benefit because replacing my collection will be a lot easier negotiating with a few people rather than buying every card individually. Just the savings on shipping costs will be huge for me. Thanks for your help! The Alpha Hoarder List(so far) Timmyhill Alpha Deathlaces (26) coasterdude84 Alpha Zombie Master (56)
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Mr.C Member
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posted September 27, 2012 11:54 PM
  
There's a guy on here, forgot his screen name, that has more than a hundred fungusaurs.
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Mr.C Member
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posted September 27, 2012 11:56 PM
  
Also, try posting/searching here:http://magiclibrarities.net/forum/?PHPSESSID=a0737f8d0e4c1d6df75abbb06aa25439 These guys would know for sure. A lot of the hardcore collectors frequent that site.
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thulnanth Member
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posted September 28, 2012 12:31 AM

quote: Originally posted by Mr.C: There's a guy on here, forgot his screen name, that has more than a hundred fungusaurs.
AbsolutAlphas (Jake) was a big collector of Fungusaurs at one point, but I think he may have gotten out - he at least sold some, afaik. He seems more into original art these days. I also believe the big collector of Island Sanctuary sold out too. SCG bought his big lot on eBay - that's why they have so many in stock  ABU, SCG, and T&T have quite a few Alpha rares in stock between them; I'm guessing you could find a bunch by checking all the major dealers and seeing what they have listed. Best of luck in your quest - hope this helps.  Take it easy, Jared
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MagixDK Member
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posted September 28, 2012 01:25 AM

i have 90% of alpha available. i know this shouldnt be a sales thread, but im cheaper than the stores...Air Elemental nm Ancestral Recall nm Animate Artifact nm Animate Dead nm Animate Wall ex Ankh of Mishra fine Armageddon nm Aspect of Wolf ex Bad Moon nm Badlands ex Balance good Basalt Monolith nm Benalish Hero nm Black Knight nm Black Lotus nm -inked Black Vise nm Black Ward nm Blaze of Glory ex+ Blessing nm Blue Elemental Blast nm Blue Ward nm Braingeyser nm Burrowing nm Camouflage nm Castle nm Celestial Prism nm Channel nm Chaoslace nm Circle of Protection: Blue nm Circle of Protection: Green nm Circle of Protection: Red nm Circle of Protection: White nm Clockwork Beast nm Cockatrice nm Control Magic nm Conversion nm Copper Tablet fine Crystal Rod nm Cursed Land nm Dark Ritual nm Death Ward nm Deathgrip nm Deathlace nm Dingus Egg ex+ Disenchant nm Disintegrate nm Disrupting Scepter fine Dragon Whelp nm Drain Power nm Dwarven Demolition Team fine Dwarven Warriors nm Earth Elemental ex+ Creature Bond nm Earthquake nm Elvish Archers nm Evil Presence nm Farmstead nm Fastbond PSA 7 Fear ex Feedback nm Fire Elemental nm Firebreathing nm Flashfires nm Flight nm Forcefield nm Fork fine Fungusaur nm Gaea's Liege nm Gauntlet of Might ex+ Gloom nm Goblin Balloon Brigade nm Goblin King nm Granite Gargoyle nm Gray Ogre nm Green Ward nm Healing Salve nm Helm of Chatzuk ex+ Hill Giant nm Holy Armor nm Howl from Beyond nm Howling Mine ex Hurloon Minotaur nm Hurricane nm Hypnotic Specter nm Illusionary Mask ex+ Instill Energy ex+ Iron Star nm Ironclaw Orcs nm Island Sanctuary nm Ivory Cup nm Jade Monolith nm Jade Statue nm Jayemdae Tome nm Juggernaut good Jump nm Karma nm Kormus Bell nm Kudzu nm Lance nm Ley Druid nm Library of Leng nm Lifeforce nm Lifelace nm Lifetap ex+ Living Artifact nm Living Lands nm Living Wall ex+ Llanowar Elves nm Lord of Atlantis nm Lure nm Magical Hack nm Mana Flare nm Mana Short nm 2 Mana Vault nm -shuffle crease Manabarbs PSA 8 Meekstone ex+ Merfolk of the Pearl Trident nm Mesa Pegasus nm Mons's Goblin Raiders nm Mox Emerald fine/good Mox Jet fine+ Mox Pearl ex+ Mox Ruby fine+ Mox Sapphire nm Natural Selection good Nether Shadow nm Nettling Imp ex+ Nevinyrral's Disk ex Northern Paladin fine Obsianus Golem nm Orcish Artillery nm Orcish Oriflamme nm Pearled Unicorn nm Personal Incarnation ex Pestilence nm Phantasmal Forces nm Phantom Monster nm Pirate Ship fine Plague Rats nm Plateau Graded 7 (not psa, cant remeber company) Power Leak nm Power Surge ex+ Psionic Blast fine+ Purelace purelace Raging River nm Red Elemental Blast nm Red Ward ex Regrowth nm Resurrection nm Reverse Damage nm Righteousness good Roc of Kher Ridges ex+ Rock Hydra nm Rod of Ruin fiine/good Royal Assassin nm Sacrifice ex+ Samite Healer nm Savannah ex+ Savannah Lions ex+ Scathe Zombies nm Scavenging Ghoul nm Scrubland ex Shatter nm shivan dragon signed nm Simulacrum nm Sinkhole nm Sleight of Mind nm Smoke nm Soul Net ex+ Stasis nm Steal Artifact nm Stone Giant nm Stream of Life nm Sunglasses of Urza ex+ Swords to Plowshares fine Taiga good Terror nm The Hive nm Thicket Basilisk nm Thoughtlace ex Throne of Bone ex Timber Wolves ex+ Time Vault ex+ (ink) Time Walk ex++ light ink Timetwister ex Tranquility fine Tropical Island nm+ Tsunami nm Tundra nm+ Tunnel nm Two-Headed Giant of Foriys nm Underground Sea fine Unholy Strength nm Uthden Troll nm Verduran Enchantress nm Vesuvan Doppelganger ex+ Veteran Bodyguard ex+ Volcanic Eruption ex+ Wall of Air nm Wall of Bone nm Wall of Brambles nm Wall of Stone nm Wall of Swords nm signed Wall of Water nm wall of wood signed nm Wanderlust nm War Mammoth nm Water Elemental nm Web nm Wheel of Fortune nm White Knight nm White Ward nm Wild Growth nm Winter Orb ex+ Wooden Sphere nm Wrath of God fine
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Ihateworking Member
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posted September 28, 2012 01:46 AM
  
I really don't think this will be much of a service to the public at large, mostly because hoarders are collecting usually only one rare and are actively trying to get as many of them as they can. These kinds of collectors won't be willing to part with their cards. You're basically trying to shame them into trading or selling the cards they've worked hard to collect by putting their names on your list. It's akin to sanctioning their harrassment. Now every person trying to put together an alpha set will ask these people over and over again to trade or sell cards they don't want to trade or sell. If they were interested in making a deal, they'd already have a thread on this site or one like it.
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isetfire Member
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posted September 28, 2012 05:48 AM

^^ I agree.
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southparker2002 Member
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posted September 28, 2012 08:54 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Ihateworking: I really don't think this will be much of a service to the public at large, mostly because hoarders are collecting usually only one rare and are actively trying to get as many of them as they can. These kinds of collectors won't be willing to part with their cards. You're basically trying to shame them into trading or selling the cards they've worked hard to collect by putting their names on your list. It's akin to sanctioning their harrassment. Now every person trying to put together an alpha set will ask these people over and over again to trade or sell cards they don't want to trade or sell. If they were interested in making a deal, they'd already have a thread on this site or one like it.
Agree 100%
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Vegas10 Member
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posted September 28, 2012 09:36 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Mr.C: Also, try posting/searching here:http://magiclibrarities.net/forum/?PHPSESSID=a0737f8d0e4c1d6df75abbb06aa25439 These guys would know for sure. A lot of the hardcore collectors frequent that site.
goodluck joining that site, there mods seems to rarley sign up people, and do it very sparadically when they do.
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coasterdude84 Member
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posted September 30, 2012 08:20 AM
  
It doesn't really matter to me, to be honest; I haven't exactly kept it a secret. I did keep it quiet for the first 3%, but after that it just became too hard to find them without attracting attention. My goal was to get 5%, which I've done, so now I just pick them up if I stumble across them at a good price. There's plenty out there still: ABU Games has 3, last I knew Daniel Chang had 2, and there are a couple others on ebay. There's another guy that claims to have 16 of them, too. You can certainly get them, they're just expensive and take a little bit of time to find. If you're completing an Alpha set though, the duals, power, etc. will all cost you way more and are probably harder to acquire.And by the way, I'm at 57 now.
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valorale Member
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posted September 30, 2012 10:08 PM

I am not really clear how this is a public service and who are you assisting? What is your goal? Are you trying warn people that the prices for certain alpha rares will be higher? We know this, ebay ending auctions and dealer prices reflect this. Are you trying to get people to avoid selling and trading their cards to a collector? This isnt a game of Settles of Catan. No one is going to boycott a person because they are a collector of a particular card. Prices on alpha cards are at an all time high. If you want to assemble a set that is a reality you'll have to deal with. Unless you want to drop a lot of money and buy a set outright, it will take you time and patience to piece it together.
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Nitelite Member
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posted September 30, 2012 11:18 PM

I don't really care who the person hoarding them is but would be nice to know which cards are actively collected and how many they have.
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Volcanon Member
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posted October 01, 2012 08:14 AM

If this is a "brag about your l33t collection" post then it's fine. I've hoarded a few cards over the years and it's pretty fun. I think I have somewhere north of 135 pre-release April Lu Bu now, though it's been harder to buy them over here than in Japan.I have a bunch signed by not the artist, one really bad alteration, and so on. One time I bought a collection of seven of them, and it came with Sangokushi 7, a PS1 strategy game based on the same saga. Kinda funny.
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magicmisprints New Member
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posted October 15, 2012 06:48 AM
  
The hoarding thing has been a concern for me for quite some time (I've known how little Alpha there was relative to other stuff since I started in 94, and gladly sucked up as much as I could when they declared it tournament-illegal). There are many cards I've picked up exactly because I know that certain people hoard them (so I'll have a few, and be able to pass them to people like you), and I never knowingly sell Alpha or anything particularly hoardable to anyone I know is a hoarder of that thing, because it reduces the chances I will be able to find another one later. For instance, a guy was huge into Forces of Nature way back in the day and had ungodly numbers of all editions, but also like 80-100 Alphas, so I got 13 of my own that he wouldn't have. Call it counter-hoarding, if you like. Anyway, I have decent amounts of Alpha commons and rares available at the moment, including a few Pirate Ships and Drain Powers - very short on uncommons, but long (6-21 of each) on a few items like BoP, Stasis, Wrath, Armageddon, Disk, Verduran, and Crusade. Drop me a line if you are interested. Think I also have an extra Island Sanctuary or two, though I do remember that guy selling a bunch of them on eBay some time back.. thing is, he sold them as huge lots, so they're probably still not redistributed well. Only had one extra Animate Wall, though, which I sold a couple years ago. Need to keep my last one for my set.
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