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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
I wouldn't be surprised to see 25-30$ packs when stuff like remand, spell snare, BoB, clique, etc get spoiled..

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
If this is just a greatest hits of modern set, yeah many retailers will ask well above MSRP for them if the packs a truly loaded like that. However this is suppose to be a draftable set as well so they will need to balance the set as such, so I don't expect it will be just reprint all good modern cards set, there will be some flavor to make it draftable.

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They already compare it to cube, so he packs can be loaded and still draftable.

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Originally posted by coolio:
and yet it's doing wonders for konami for ygo on the inf reprints of 2-300 dollar staples into commons 6 months after initial release in the following set, or the set after that.. you want to make random examples, we can both do that.. not sure you're going anywhere.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Yugo is not doing anywhere near as well as when it first came out.

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Originally posted by daner:
Facts? Because from my expierence EVERY store in my area has just as many Yu-Gi-Oh nights as they do MTG, and just as many if not MORE people show up on a regular basis for Yu-Gi-Oh.

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This does seem to be the case....RtR Pre-release had to be moved cause the store had more Yugioh players then magic.

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Originally posted by daner:
Facts? Because from my expierence EVERY store in my area has just as many Yu-Gi-Oh nights as they do MTG, and just as many if not MORE people show up on a regular basis for Yu-Gi-Oh.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Well maybe it's regional then where I am at the stores I regualrly go to no longer run Yug do to lack of interest. Then again maybe they just ran it poorly or something, I didn't play so I don't know that for sure, but they don't sell it anymore either, packs or singles. Also after doing some research, it is doing very well, guess just because locally it seems to have changed I got the wrong impression.

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Kind of like Pokemon, most assume it's dead, but some regions it is doing very well, even being #1 sales over magic and yugioh..

WoW TCG is dead...IG item cards was a good market move bad for the game move....so much gets opened for those that even the best and rarest cards are like 2-3 bucks :P..

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I made a big deal early in the format's life that not only were we allowed to reprint the staple cards of the format, but that we actively planned to do so. A good bit of that rhetoric was anchored in the fact that I knew the ten "shocklands" were slated to appear in Return to Ravnica and Gatecrash; similarly, a couple other big Modern cards are slated to show up in other Standard-legal sets down the line. But we didn't have a great solution for getting more copies of cards that are too powerful to reintroduce to Standard into circulation. (If you're wondering, yes, we debated many times the possibility of having Tarmogoyf return to Standard but ultimately decided we didn't want to do it.)

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A glance at print run numbers available in the public domain shows that Chronicles likely increased the number of some cards in existence by a factor of ten or more! Cards that were rare and highly collectible were suddenly ubiquitous. The error was one of scale, and while I understand what the people working here at the time were trying to accomplish, in retrospect it was handled badly. Granted, they were adding their cards to what was then Type 2 (now Standard) and we are not, but I have to think there was a better way for them to solve the problem.

We won't make that mistake again. We don't want to turn cards from scarce to abundant in the blink of an eye, but we do want to alter the availability by a matter of degrees, all with the goal of growing the reach of the Modern format. Ideally, over time, any short-term drop in desirability of older cards you may own will be recouped as more players enter the format. I can't say it enough: our print run is very small, especially compared to what we're making for our current headliner sets like Return to Ravnica. We're playing in a very delicate space, and we know that, but the promise of the Modern format was that we would address card availability issues, and we are focused on figuring out the best way to do that.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Kind of like Pokemon, most assume it's dead, but some regions it is doing very well, even being #1 sales over magic and yugioh..

WoW TCG is dead...IG item cards was a good market move bad for the game move....so much gets opened for those that even the best and rarest cards are like 2-3 bucks :P..

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Originally posted by mtglover:
Why are we even comparing it to Yu-Gi-Oh, it doesn't matter how successful its strategy is cause different games target different niches. Yu-gi-oh players may be fine with all of its cards losing value but it doesn't mean that magic players are ok with it. That's why some magic players won't even touch Yu-gi-oh no matter how popular it is or how much fun some people claim it to be.

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Yea, but I find it highly doubtful(and honestly quite foolish) if people continue to bitch about re-prints of cards that aren't even a decade old. If they re-print REAL Duals...then yes, you have a real reason to complain. Until then STFU.

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Originally posted by daner:
Yea, but I find it highly doubtful(and honestly quite foolish) if people continue to bitch about re-prints of cards that aren't even a decade old. If they re-print REAL Duals...then yes, you have a real reason to complain. Until then STFU.

People are only bitching bc they fear their Goyfs will fall in value. Boo-Freaking-Hoo.

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
If WOTC breaks reserve list policy after claiming it wouldn't then people mass exodus that are more invested in older stuff. Some folks don't even care about cards not in type 2.

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Originally posted by daner:
....but they're not.

What reserve list are they breaking by re-printing stuff from Mirrodin-Shards of Alara Block?

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Nothing. I think it was just spillover from the commander's arsenal thing. Paranoia is stupid, and modern isn't legacy.