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Topic: First booster box!
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TylerGuy94
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posted December 10, 2012 12:28 PM
         
So me and my girlfriend are deciding to pool together and buy a booster box for Christmas. We wan't it for the fun and cards but we also want to get our moneys worth out of it. We would most likely be using the cards we pull to trade and sell. What is going to be the best buy for us? Innistrad block - Return to Ravnica.
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MAB_Rapper
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posted December 10, 2012 12:47 PM
Innistrad is your best bet, with M13 as a second choice.Innistrad has:
Geist of Saint Traft
Liliana of the Veil
Snapcaster Mage
Garruk Relentless
The Enemy Color Lands M13 has:
Thundermaw Hellkite
Thragtusk
Sublime Archangel This is the just the top of the top value. Dark Ascension has Sorin, Lord of Innistrad and that's really it from a high end. Avacyn Restored has Craterhoof Behemoth and that's really it from a high end. This set also has a ton of bulk in it, much more than normal. You could try Return to Ravnica with Sphinx's Revelation, Angel of Serenity, and Jace 4.0, but it's pretty weak after those. __________________
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MagicPatty
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posted December 10, 2012 01:15 PM
Avacyn Restored also has Sigarda, Bonfire and Entreat, but I would agree that Innistrad is your best bet.__________________
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rats60
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posted December 10, 2012 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Innistrad is your best bet, with M13 as a second choice.Innistrad has:
The Enemy Color Lands
It depends on what you want. If you want the Innistrad lands, then Innistrad is ok. I personally think that they will be 2-3 cards like the scars lands. I would much rather have Shocklands from Return to Ravnica. From opening all these sets, I would disagree with the abover poster. Innistrad & M13 are the worst sets to open. Distribution is really poor and there is a high chance that you get 2-3 lands and nothing else of value. From my experience Return to Ravnica would be the best followed by Avacyn Restored and Dark Ascension. BTW Dark Ascension has Gravecrawler, Geralf's Messenger, Hellrider, Falkenrath Aristocrat and Huntmaster of the Fells besides Sorin.
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Zeckk
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posted December 10, 2012 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by rats60:
It depends on what you want. If you want the Innistrad lands, then Innistrad is ok. I personally think that they will be 2-3 cards like the scars lands. I would much rather have Shocklands from Return to Ravnica. From opening all these sets, I would disagree with the abover poster. Innistrad & M13 are the worst sets to open. Distribution is really poor and there is a high chance that you get 2-3 lands and nothing else of value. From my experience Return to Ravnica would be the best followed by Avacyn Restored and Dark Ascension. BTW Dark Ascension has Gravecrawler, Geralf's Messenger, Hellrider, Falkenrath Aristocrat and Huntmaster of the Fells besides Sorin.
Well the OP stated his intent to trade the money cards for other things, which would make innistrad the clear choice. Enemy checklands are higher than shocks right now, and will continue to be the case until RTR stops being drafted in massive quantities.
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mtglover
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posted December 10, 2012 04:17 PM
The problem with innistrad is that, except for the lands and snapcaster, practically all the money cards are mythics, which you wouldn't get much of. I bust alot of boxes in my free time and so far, ravnica consistently gives me at least 75% of the value back so I would recommend Ravnica.
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mgoodridge
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posted December 10, 2012 04:47 PM
AVR also has Tamiyo and Cavern of Souls.
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hilikuS
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posted December 10, 2012 05:16 PM
I think Avacyn might be your best bet. It has a lot of nice things.Or just take your $100 and buy singles, or a crapload of cards.
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rats60
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posted December 10, 2012 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Well the OP stated his intent to trade the money cards for other things, which would make innistrad the clear choice. Enemy checklands are higher than shocks right now, and will continue to be the case until RTR stops being drafted in massive quantities.
How many boxes do you open? I was stating my opinion from opening several boxes of each. Innistrad is one of the worst Magic boxes to open because of poor distribution. There are many boxes where you will be lucky to get 20-30 dollars worth of cards and those cards have a short window of value. It is a much safer bet to open RTR or Avacyn. Now if he said he was going to open a sealed case, I wouldn't have a problem with Innistrad because your bad boxes will even out over the long run.
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daner
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posted December 10, 2012 06:37 PM
Dark Ascension is probably your best bet, followed by Return to Ravnica. Being a small set usually you get all the goods from a single box of DA. Huntmaster, Sorin, Aristocrat, Hellrider, Gravecrawler, and Messenger. Thalia isn't bad either and a few copies of Lingering Souls is nice. Not to mention if you want to play compettitive you probably need those anyway. After DA I'd say RTR is your best bet. AVR is probably 3rd..... Tamiyo, Bonefire, Cavern, Siguarda, Entreat, Grislebrand, Paladin, and Behemoth are good pulls. Innistrad is probably next. M13 I wouldnt touch with a 10 foot pole.
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Originally posted by rats60:
How many boxes do you open? I was stating my opinion from opening several boxes of each. Innistrad is one of the worst Magic boxes to open because of poor distribution. There are many boxes where you will be lucky to get 20-30 dollars worth of cards and those cards have a short window of value. It is a much safer bet to open RTR or Avacyn. Now if he said he was going to open a sealed case, I wouldn't have a problem with Innistrad because your bad boxes will even out over the long run.
I agree with you. I've opened probably 10 boxes of Innistrad and I noticed something that was clear as day. The box would contain Lilinana, Geist, Snapcaster and 2-3 lands....or literally nothing at all. If you open a box and Snapcaster is on the left, top pack...Liliana and Geist are sure fire hits in that box....happened 4 times for me.
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paris
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posted December 10, 2012 11:51 PM
Sort of inspired by this topic, and also by how I like Angels but wasn't playing when AVR came out, I went and bought a box of AVR from my local game store ($99) and opened it just now.Going off SCG sell prices, I opened: Cavern of Souls $20
Entreat the Angels $20
Craterhoof Behemoth $15
Silverblade Paladin $12
Terminus $10
Angel of Jubilation Foil $4
Wolfir Silverheart $4
Someberwald Sage $3
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded $3
Dread Slaver Foil $2
8x $1.50 rares
4x $1 rares
3x $0.75 rares
10x $0.50 rares Total from the rares added up to $115.93. No Tamiyo, Bonfires or Restoration Angels, but I think I'm still pretty satisfied with what I got. It was fun to open the packs. Also got a foil Human Frailty which looks pretty neat. Also, I really like some of the card art in AVR.
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TylerGuy94
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posted December 11, 2012 12:03 AM
Gosh. I'm so torn hahaha I'm not a huge fan of AVR but there are some great cards in the set. I myself already have everything I want out of DA besides Sorin. Craterhoofs, Entreats, and Bonfires would be cool. I guess I want the set with the most high dollar rares (not mythic, just rares) I only expect to open 3-4 mythics out of a box since the odds are 1 out of every 10 packs. So with a guaranteed rare with every booster i'd like the highest chance to get higher dollar stuff out of just the rares themselves. But with the fact of the Innistrad dual prices on the rise it's hard to choose. Right now we're thinking on RTR or AVR. But still can't decide haha
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TylerGuy94
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posted December 11, 2012 12:08 AM
I just don't want to blow all our money on something that we get nothing out of. We're pretty much in a bind on money right now and this will be our only Christmas present to each other so I want it to be worth it I guess. Call me stupid if you want haha
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MAB_Rapper
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posted December 11, 2012 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by TylerGuy94:
I just don't want to blow all our money on something that we get nothing out of. We're pretty much in a bind on money right now and this will be our only Christmas present to each other so I want it to be worth it I guess. Call me stupid if you want haha
I wouldn't call you stupid at all. My main point was that despite money in any set, AVR has the highest percentage of just bad bulk rares to money cards. __________________
My 2008 Nationals The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page hilikuS: Also, as much as MAB's list has become the list on the T/A Forum, I do miss Slinga's.
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bushe
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posted December 11, 2012 07:21 AM
My experience with restored was that 85% of the packs are better off burned because there is only 2 rares worth opening to go with the requisite 5-6 mythics. And the fact that the bulk in restored was just sooo bad.
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wayne
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posted December 11, 2012 08:31 AM
I would say RTR. It would be easier also if you could let us know how much each box is retailing for. (e.g. ISD costs slightly more than the other and DKA costs slightly less than the others over here.)
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Link139232
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posted December 11, 2012 11:08 AM
RtR, and here's why:1. It is the first set in the block. Who knows what kinds of mediocre rares will shoot up once Innistrad rotates? (Craterhoof, Geist, etc.)
2. It is the first set in the block. Yes, I said it already. Block constructed can cause a lot of cards to become playable an increase value. (sup Cloudthresher?)
3. It is the most recent set. People are going to trade for what's recent, generally, if they don't have it already.
4. Having playstock of the new set is good. Personally, I want to have a playset of everything possibly relevant in RtR for Block, and new standard formats.
5. Price spikes. Lastly, this set has had a ton of fluctuation with prices. Angel 10-25, Revelation 6-20, Jace 20-50, etc. We don't know if Worldspine Wurm will be a $30 mythic after Gatecrash, Dragon's Maze, or the next block is released.
That's my personal opinion, but if you are looking for money cards.. I would avoid cracking packs altogether.
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