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manamonkey
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posted December 12, 2012 06:32 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for manamonkey Click Here to Email manamonkey Send a private message to manamonkey Click to send manamonkey an Instant MessageVisit manamonkey's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
My plan is to get a playset of beta birds in the next couple of months. I heard a rumor though, that there a many fake birds in circulation. A dealer told me that these fakes are very well done, printed on a professional printing machine, on the right paper etc., and that they are very hard to spot. They are probably produced in Germany or France in the mid 90s so according to him, the chance to accidentally buy/trade one is greater in europe than in north america. Does anybody heard this rumor before? If it's true how could I distinguish a real bird from a fake one?

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MagixDK
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posted December 12, 2012 06:34 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
never heard of this - was it a european trader who told you this?
 
manamonkey
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posted December 12, 2012 06:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for manamonkey Click Here to Email manamonkey Send a private message to manamonkey Click to send manamonkey an Instant MessageVisit manamonkey's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
yes, it was dealer at the gp in bochum, germany
 
caquaa
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posted December 12, 2012 06:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
sounds like you're referring to dark beta. I have essentially no knowledge about it, but I do recall slinga posting something about it in the TA forums quite some time back. I'm sure there's more info around too.
 
coasterdude84
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Yeah, sounds like Dark Beta, so named because they're a shade darker than most cards, much like a dark printing of Beta (which is perfectly normal). Don't know about them having originated in Europe, but Dark Betas are very well done. My best suggestion is to look at the text in the text box. On a real card, the edges of the letters are sharp and crisp, but on the fakes the edges are a bit fuzzy. There are some other details that can help you tell them apart, but that's the easiest I've found.

Also, the term Dark Beta is a bit misleading. It is not strictly Beta cards that are faked. There was a thread a while ago here regarding a Dark Beta Candelabra of Tawnos.

 
D'Shay
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posted December 13, 2012 08:09 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for D'Shay Click Here to Email D'Shay Send a private message to D'Shay Click to send D'Shay an Instant MessageVisit D'Shay's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
yes and i have a Dark Beta Moat that we determined, so no it is not limited to just Beta.
 

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