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Topic: M14 rare land cycle
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Vladevlade
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posted January 20, 2013 11:47 AM
        
I was thinking about this the other day, they have printed the "buddy" lands 3 years in a row now what about next year? I for one think they will reprint the Innistrad "buddy" lands in M14. I have talked to others about this and people's opinions are all over the place. Some think they will just reprint the same cycle of M10- m13 lands, others think the "pain" lands will return some even think a whole new cycle will be printed. What do you think or what would you like to see in M14 for the rare land cycle?
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thror
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posted January 20, 2013 12:14 PM
The painlands arent coming back. Wotc went over how players dont like life payments as a cost, and the core set is not the place for this mechanic.The Innistrad lands are ENEMY colored, and wont be in M14. Enemy colors dont normally get that type of cooperation in core sets. Honestly, the only drawback to the current lands is that they promote control over aggro by coming into play tapped turn1. I would expect to see these again, MAYBE the Scars of Mirrodin ones, or possibly the allied Shadowmoor filterlands. __________________
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Mr.C
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posted January 20, 2013 12:44 PM
Dual lands without land types.One can only hope...
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ectomanic
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posted January 20, 2013 01:52 PM
onslaught fetchlands!!!one can dream.
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thror
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posted January 20, 2013 02:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Dual lands without land types.One can only hope...
I assume you mean WITH land types. Because m10 duals dont have them. Also, shocklands JUST got printed again, and hey look, they have land types. __________________
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MagicPatty
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posted January 20, 2013 02:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by thror:
I assume you mean WITH land types. Because m10 duals dont have them. Also, shocklands JUST got printed again, and hey look, they have land types.
I think he meant without the 'comes into play tapped unless' clause. As in: Underground Lake - Land T: Add U or B to your mana pool.
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Devonin
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posted January 20, 2013 03:27 PM
How do you get "without a comes into play tapped clause" from "without a land type" ?Also, a dual land that came into play without having a chance to come into play tapped would never ever happen again.
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theqissilent
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posted January 20, 2013 03:35 PM
I wish they would use the designs from futuresight, like nimbus maze or river of tears
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MagicPatty
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posted January 20, 2013 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Devonin:
How do you get "without a comes into play tapped clause" from "without a land type" ?Also, a dual land that came into play without having a chance to come into play tapped would never ever happen again.
agreed. I got that as I read his post to mean that 'dual land' means like the original duals, that don't count as island / swamp. Otherwise, all M-set duals would qualify as what he is hoping for. I assume he's not hoping for something that already exists. __________________
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Pail42
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posted January 20, 2013 03:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
How do you get "without a comes into play tapped clause" from "without a land type" ?Also, a dual land that came into play without having a chance to come into play tapped would never ever happen again.
The only difference between the given example and the original dual lands from alpha is that it lacks the Swamp and Island land types. I don't expect this for M14, but I wouldn't put this totally out of the realm of possibility. I never thought they would put land types on duals again and they did that multiple times.
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WeedIan
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posted January 20, 2013 05:24 PM
Lands with no draw back except land types arn't that great.
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fedorables
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posted January 20, 2013 05:59 PM
I want standard playable triple lands. Like Lairs. Only "rare status".__________________
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Pail42
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posted January 20, 2013 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Lands with no draw back except land types arn't that great.
They're more powerful than what we've been getting in the core set since M10. Is your complaint that they wouldn't be good enough or that they would be too good?
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hilikuS
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posted January 20, 2013 08:49 PM
I feel like M14 would be a good time to reprint some of the filter lands.
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Zeckk
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posted January 20, 2013 08:59 PM
There are actually quite a lot of good candidates for M14. I disagree with Thror's assessment that R&D doesn't want enemy colors getting support in a core set. M13 had an extremely supported W/B exalted theme, and many of the major draft strategies revolved around enemy pairings (GB rock, RW aggro, GU tempo, etc.). Something like enemy fastlands doesn't break any sacred rules regarding core set design, especially after M10 turned core set design on it's head. newer players tend to disregard land anyways, which has been acknowledged by MTG designers multiple times.
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xxxcryoserumxxx
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posted January 20, 2013 09:28 PM
I would like to see both INN lands and the core set lands printed together.
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choco man
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posted January 20, 2013 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Dual lands without land types.One can only hope...
So in decks without Farseek, they'd be stronger than even the Rav-duals? That's asking for a lot; but hey, R&D has been giving us a lot.
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AEther Storm
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posted January 20, 2013 11:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by thror:
The painlands arent coming back. Wotc went over how players dont like life payments as a cost, and the core set is not the place for this mechanic.
I don't mind, I like the Ice Age/Apocalypse painlands. No pain, no gain. Those, and City of Brass. Classic.
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