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Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
I think this will be the 1996 card (and the chase card for the pack):

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles /image_content_width/hash/ab/cc/abcc4428dc22b1b4ae600bea044954fa.jpg

EDIT: Why does IMG tag work in preview but not in postings?

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Only mods are allowed to put images in posts.

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Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
I think this will be the 1996 card (and the chase card for the pack):

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles /image_content_width/hash/ab/cc/abcc4428dc22b1b4ae600bea044954fa.jpg

EDIT: Why does IMG tag work in preview but not in postings?

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Originally posted by wayne:

Isn't FoW reserved as well?

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No its not, but i feel it will be a Judge promo before it wide release promo.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
I think this will be the 1996 card (and the chase card for the pack):

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles /image_content_width/hash/ab/cc/abcc4428dc22b1b4ae600bea044954fa.jpg

EDIT: Why does IMG tag work in preview but not in postings? Here it is again, except with a different expansion symbol on it. Looks legit to me *cough*

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The picture I posted was the oversized card made and given away to the 2011 Legacy World Champ, you can see him grinning ear 2 ear here on Wizards site holding it
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/usnat11/day2

It is legit art and the card is not on the reserved list either as only rares from pre-Masks that have not been reprinted in normal card stock are on the reserved list.
Here is the policy / full list http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy

Note Mana Drain isn't on that list either as it's an Uncommon not a Rare but it's unlikely to be reprinted cause of this quote "Mana Drain: One Magic developer has this to say, "The entire R&D team would have to be hit by a bus before we'd reprint Mana Drain." Start your engines.

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Originally posted by Moonkeeper:
For Mirage block, is it possible we'll see something from Prosperous Bloom? It was kind of historical in that it was the first competitive "combo" deck.

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Originally posted by rogue79:
Come on Hurloon Minotaur you were the face of magic its time for a reprint for magic's 20th anniversary

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I actually wouldn't mind having a foil Hurloon Minotaur.

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Originally posted by junichi:
I actually wouldn't mind having a foil Hurloon Minotaur.

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Originally posted by KGtheLegend:
Ooooo, that's a good one, I would love to see it. Cadaverous Bloom was one of the backbones of the Pros Bloom combo deck, along with Squandered Resources and Prosperity. I think either Bloom or Resources would make a great addition to the set.

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Reserved list.... on both counts.

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Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
Reserved list.... on both counts.

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Ugh. Natural Balance is on the reserved list as well. I guess that leaves Prosperity. That's a shame. Again, if we're celebrating the history of magic with this set than
something identifiable with ProsBloom should be included.

From: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/5270_The_First_Combo_Deck_What_Was_Pro sperous_Bloom.html

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Originally posted by Moonkeeper:
Ugh. Natural Balance is on the reserved list as well. I guess that leaves Prosperity. That's a shame. Again, if we're celebrating the history of magic with this set than
something identifiable with ProsBloom should be included.

From: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/5270_The_First_Combo_Deck_What_Was_Pro sperous_Bloom.html

The best 4-of in the deck not on the reserved list is Vampiric Tutor. I really wish they'd scrap the reserved list, as they can always just make functional reprints anyway (examples: Braingeyser, Fork, Lich, etc...).

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Yer I agree, Prosperity it would have to be. The only other option is really infernal contract but most wouldn't understand that.

I don't want to divert this thread but I 100% agree the reserved list needs to go away. It will be the death of Legacy like it's killed Vintage

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Originally posted by Moonkeeper:
Ugh. Natural Balance is on the reserved list as well. I guess that leaves Prosperity. That's a shame. Again, if we're celebrating the history of magic with this set than
something identifiable with ProsBloom should be included.

From: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/5270_The_First_Combo_Deck_What_Was_Pro sperous_Bloom.html

The best 4-of in the deck not on the reserved list is Vampiric Tutor. I really wish they'd scrap the reserved list, as they can always just make functional reprints anyway (examples: Braingeyser, Fork, Lich, etc...).

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Originally posted by KIP_NZ:

I don't want to divert this thread but I 100% agree the reserved list needs to go away. It will be the death of Legacy like it's killed Vintage

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Originally posted by Devonin:
I think WOTC is hoping that Modern will be the death of Legacy, so they can just forget about the reserve list entirely.

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If this is their hope and they announce it publicly they are going to alienate a large chunk of their population.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
If this is their hope and they announce it publicly they are going to alienate a large chunk of their population.

Legacy is a solid and sweet format. Modern not so much.

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Then they introduce a new Eternal format where pretty much the ONLY difference between it and the existing Eternal formats is "nothing in this Eternal format is on the Reserve list, so we can always reprint things to keep the cost to enter low"

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Originally posted by marlo213:
Unless you are in like the 10 cities that actually has a legacy community, legacy is a very sorry format. I have had a pair of fow in my binder for almost a year now and only like 3 people asked about it, and they only wanted it for edh. Legacy is gonna die and will be a collectors only format, just like vintage

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I don't think you are correct, if legacy wasn't popular the cards wouldn't be worth what they are.

We've traded/sold over 30 FoW in the past 2 months in a city of only 200,000 in Canada.

Legacy is far from dead, it won't die until modern because a format people want to actually play outside of Competitive Seasons.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I don't think you are correct, if legacy wasn't popular the cards wouldn't be worth what they are.

We've traded/sold over 30 FoW in the past 2 months in a city of only 200,000 in Canada.

Legacy is far from dead, it won't die until modern because a format people want to actually play outside of Competitive Seasons.

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Well vintage is pretty dead look at all the prices on all those cards. Honestly though, I think there are a lot and I mean a lot of people that are sitting on legacy cards and are killing the circulation completely.

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Originally posted by marlo213:

I also know a couple of guys locally that have the cards but since no one plays, no one bothers to make decks.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I don't think you are correct, if legacy wasn't popular the cards wouldn't be worth what they are.

We've traded/sold over 30 FoW in the past 2 months in a city of only 200,000 in Canada.

Legacy is far from dead, it won't die until modern because a format people want to actually play outside of Competitive Seasons.

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Marlo is actually correct. Vegas is sitting at around 1.2-1.5 million right now, but there hasn't been a regularly firing legacy event in town for at least a year. The inability to switch decks without a hefty investment is the real problem. Yes, standard and modern suffer from this problem as well, but not to the same degree. Switching a competitive standard deck costs $200-400, while new legacy decks easily reach $1k or more.

No one is debating whether legacy is fun or not. It's quite fun. But nobody markets the legacy format outside of SCG, and SCG has been pulling legacy events due to lack of attendance in multiple cities this year. They are purposely avoiding a Modern Open event as long as possible, because once they do, there's no reviving legacy.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Marlo is actually correct. Vegas is sitting at around 1.2-1.5 million right now, but there hasn't been a regularly firing legacy event in town for at least a year. The inability to switch decks without a hefty investment is the real problem. Yes, standard and modern suffer from this problem as well, but not to the same degree. Switching a competitive standard deck costs $200-400, while new legacy decks easily reach $1k or more.

No one is debating whether legacy is fun or not. It's quite fun. But nobody markets the legacy format outside of SCG, and SCG has been pulling legacy events due to lack of attendance in multiple cities this year. They are purposely avoiding a Modern Open event as long as possible, because once they do, there's no reviving legacy.

As for the FTV options, I think it reflects just how confining the reserve list can be when you look at how limited the options are for good reprints in the first 6 years.

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I think its a regional problem then.

Legacy is still more popular than modern in the community by far.

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I don't even want to live on this planet anymore.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
Any way I can give you a little push? :-)

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