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iccarus
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To celebrate magic's 20th anniversary, this summer's FTV product will be FTV: Twenty.

On the PT stream, they said it will be one card from each year of magic, so 20 cards in all. Everything is supposed to come from tournament winning decks. Any guesses on what cards will be in there?

Releases Aug 23rd and MSRP is $39.99

Preview art is most likely counterspell?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77138678@N05/8482053749/

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[Edited 3 times, lastly by iccarus on February 17, 2013]

 
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Good ones hopefully.
 
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I'm going with JTMS
 
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5 of them are just 5 basic lands
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
5 of them are just 5 basic lands

and they're all islands!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
5 of them are just 5 basic lands

The only basic land in tournament winning decks is Island.

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Preview art may be Brainstorm.

quote:
Originally posted by Moxdragon:
I'm going with JTMS

Not with a MSRP of $39.99.

Maybe we will see:
Wrath of God
Wasteland
Stoneforge Mystic

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Serra Angel, Shivan Dragon, BoP come to mind... Lotus Vale, Phyrexian Dreadnaught... who knows?
 
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FoW and/or JMTS and/or Mana Drain

I also see Island (They will do it sooner or latter)

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counterspell wasn't in the first world championship deck, but mana drain was. Can't really see it with an MSRP that low though.

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"Tournament Winning" doesn't necessarily mean "World Championship" though.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
To celebrate magic's 20th anniversary, this summer's FTV product will be FTV: Twenty.

On the PT stream, they said it will be one card from each year of magic, so 20 cards in all. Everything is supposed to come from tournament winning decks. Any guesses on what cards will be in there?

Releases Aug 23rd and MSRP is $39.99

Preview art is most likely counterspell?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77138678@N05/8482053749/


Yuk.

Ok let's give this a try....

1993 - could be anything! BOP, Lightning Bolt, Serra Angel
1994 - again, more of the same(remember Revised falls under 1994)....Armaggedon, possibly Mana Drain? Or Hymm to Tourach?
1995 - IA block....Necropotence for sure, sorry HL and Chronicles..wait? Possibly Serrated Arrows
1996 - FOW? Phyrexian Dreadnaught? LED? Has to be eitehr AL or MIR....bc Homelands was 1995(and it sucked)
1997 - Tempest....Tradewind Rider or Mogg Fanatic? I doubt Ancient Tomb would get printed again.
1998 - Saga.... could be anything. Probably not Cradle, but Academy? Sneak Attack? Show and Tell? Bargin? Will?
1999 - MM.....Port, Lin Sivvi, Blastoderm, Counterspell, Brainstorm, Saproling Burst, or Daze?
2000 - INV...Urza's Rage, FTK, Undermine/Absorb, Deed, Vindicate, Spiritmonger, Meddling Mage
2001 - ODD...COTH, Shadowmage, TOG.
2002 - ONS...Fetch Land/s? Astral Slide/Rift? Exalted Angel
2003 - MIR...Skullclamp, Ravager, Swords?
2004 - CHK....Jitte
2005 - RAV....Spellsnare, Remand, Lightning Helix
2006 - TSP...Tarmogoyf! Blahhhhhhhh
2007 - LOR...Doran, BB, Mutavault, Clique
2008 - SOA...Elspeth, BBE?(probably not after banning)
2009 - ZEN...JTMS! or....Stoneforge Mystic, or Land/s, proosibly Baneslayer bc M sets first came out that year too.
2010 - SOM...Wurmcoil Engine? Swords? Ratchet Bomb...or a Titan
2011 - INN...Snapcaster? Delver? Restoration Angel
2012 - RTR...bunch of crap...Deathrite Shaman? Name anything that has been played.

Feel free to fill in any hot cards of the blocks I forgot if you go by "tournament winning"

My grand prediction....this will contain 1-2 card sEVERYBODY will want, it will drive the price through the roof, and the rest will be fodder...just like all the other FTVs.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by daner on February 17, 2013]

 
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You have to keep the reserve list in mind in the predictions.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
counterspell wasn't in the first world championship deck, but mana drain was. Can't really see it with an MSRP that low though.


MSRP doesn't matter as we all know most places won't be charging MSRP...

and something in the 50-100 range is extremely likely to see print in this.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
MSRP doesn't matter as we all know most places won't be charging MSRP...

+1

If its not on the reserve list its fair game.

Also, if Disciple of the Vault doesn't get printed here he better be in the next From the Vault "banned" set

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on February 17, 2013]

 
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I feel like Lorwyn block year has to be a walker.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
I feel like Lorwyn block year has to be a walker.

The problem is that all 5 of the LOR walkers have seen a promo version, or multiple promo versions. I would be happy with a promo thoughtseize though.

I agree that baneslayer angel is a great choice for the ZEN-era year. Maybe original Sorin Markov since he's such a popular commander card.

Is mind twist on the reserve list? Can't look it up on my phone right now.

 
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Well, let's see, what hasn't been reprinted yet and is playable and not on the reserve list?

1993 - Stasis (Geddon judge foil)
1994 - Mana Drain, Hymn to Tourach, [Adun Oakenshield, Angus Mackenzie Booo, reserve list!], Blood Moon.
1995 - Infernal Darkness? Most IA stuff has been reprinted to death and Necro was already in FTV.
1996 - Any of the non-white Alliances pitch spells.
1997 - Tradewind Rider or Wasteland
1998 - Most of the cards daner mentioned are on the reserve list. There's tons of reprintable broken cards in Saga.
1999 - Blasto was a FNM foil. Port, Sivvi or Burst, with emphasis on Port or Sivvi.
2000 - Rage was in a reprint deck. Ftk was FNM promo. Vindicate, Monger, Deed and Mage were all judge foils. I wouldn't be surprised if they reprint a legend like Tawngarth or something. Yawgmoth's Agenda, perhaps.
2001 - COTH, Shadowmage, TOG. <- That haste black dude maybe. I dunno, Odyssey is like the block I know the least.
2002 - Fetches probably not. Slide and rift were FNM foils. Angel was a Judge foil. Something from goblins or zombies would be hot. Most of the good cards from this block have been promoed already. Maybe Sharpshooter?
2003 - Ravager, maybe. Swords, I wish. Maybe Lattice.
2004 - Jitte already promo. Maybe one of the more interesting legends.
[Anything on from here, couldn't say considering many of the money cards will be in Chronicles II this summer].

I hope they make it a bunch of fun casual cards instead of tournament fodder so it's cheaper for me to pick up cool stuff for my edh decks.

 
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its mother of runes!
 
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These are just what I would like to see:

1993: Stasis or Demonic Hordes or Mind Twist
1994: Hymn to Tourach
1995: Icy Manipulator
1996: Contagion or FoW
1997: Hatred or Dauthi Embrace or Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
1998: Defense of the Heart
1999: Rishadan Port
2000: Armadillo Cloak or Fires of Yavimaya
2001: Shadowmage Infiltrator
2002: Goblin Sharpshooter
2003: Goblin Charbelcher or Tooth and Nail
2004: Minamo, School at Water's Edge
2005: Dark Confidant
2006: Damnation or Slaughter Pact
2007: Thoughtseize or Bitterblossom or Horde of Notions
2008: Cruel Ultimatum
2009: JTMS...but realistically, Inquisition of Kozilek
2010: Wurmcoil Engine or Lashwrithe
2011: Griselbrand
2012: Mutilate

As you can see, I favor black pretty heavily, but again, this is just what I would like to see and not at all what I think we'll see.

 
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From the world's decks...

1994: Mana Vault / Meekstone
1995: Hymn to Tourach / Dark Ritual / Land Tax
1996: Kjeldoran Outpost / Disenchant / Strip Mine / Serra Angel / White Knight
1997: Black Knight / City of Brass / Undiscovered Paradise / Gemstone Mine / Pyroblast / Hydroblast / Nekrataal
1998: Volrath's Stronghold (PLZ!)
1999: Grim Monolith / Cursed Scroll / Worn Powerstone / City of Traitors / Thran Dynamo
2000: Brainstorm / Grim Monolith / Tangle Wire / Port
2001: Port / Dark Ritual / Crypt Angel / Phyrexian Arena
2002: Counterspell / Memory Lapse
2003: Wrath of God / Mana Leak / Compulsion / Mirari / Krosan Verge
2004: Eternal Witness / Akroma's Vengeance / Rampant Growth
2005: Jitte / Yosei
2006: Sleight of Hand / Telling Time / Hunted Dragon
2007: Tarmogoyf / Ohran Viper / Thoughtseize
2008: Mutavault / Mistbind Clique / Thoughtseize
2009: Path to Exile / Ranger of Eos / Baneslayer Angel
2010: JTMS / IoK / Mana Leak / Preordain
2011: Solemn / Green Sun's Zenith / Kessig Wolf Run

 
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It could contain stuff that totally changed the game, not just cards that won tournies. What about Eldrazi?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by southparker2002:
It could contain stuff that totally changed the game, not just cards that won tournies. What about Eldrazi?

"Each was a key part of a premier tournament-winning deck from each of the past twenty years."

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1171

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
From the world's decks...

1994: Mana Vault / Meekstone
1995: Hymn to Tourach / Dark Ritual / Land Tax
1996: Kjeldoran Outpost / Disenchant / Strip Mine / Serra Angel / White Knight
1997: Black Knight / City of Brass / Undiscovered Paradise / Gemstone Mine / Pyroblast / Hydroblast / Nekrataal
1998: Volrath's Stronghold (PLZ!)
1999: Grim Monolith / Cursed Scroll / Worn Powerstone / City of Traitors / Thran Dynamo
2000: Brainstorm / Grim Monolith / Tangle Wire / Port
2001: Port / Dark Ritual / Crypt Angel / Phyrexian Arena
2002: Counterspell / Memory Lapse
2003: Wrath of God / Mana Leak / Compulsion / Mirari / Krosan Verge
2004: Eternal Witness / Akroma's Vengeance / Rampant Growth
2005: Jitte / Yosei
2006: Sleight of Hand / Telling Time / Hunted Dragon
2007: Tarmogoyf / Ohran Viper / Thoughtseize
2008: Mutavault / Mistbind Clique / Thoughtseize
2009: Path to Exile / Ranger of Eos / Baneslayer Angel
2010: JTMS / IoK / Mana Leak / Preordain
2011: Solemn / Green Sun's Zenith / Kessig Wolf Run


So many reserve list cards on the first 6 years...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Scared of Nature:
its mother of runes!

It can't be mom, they said that card was from the first deck, and mom was not in that first deck....

 

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