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iccarus
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Announced at PAX over the weekend and on the mothership today. The next block will kick off with the release of Theros next fall.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1196

Theros will be followed up by Born of the Gods and Journey Into Nyx.

Spoiler art looks very much like this set will have strong influences of Greek mythology. Could be interesting.

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Great, just what I need, another block I need to buy a case of.

Can't wait

 
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While I don't think it is, that art looks totally like it could be Sun Titan.
 
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"God" as a creature type?
 
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I think this is a great concept to base a block around. I'm excited; this should have some good top-down design.

quote:
Originally posted by deegeebee:
"God" as a creature type?

Isn't that basically the Kamigawa Myojin?

 
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Themed sets based around certain cultures:
Innistrad (werewolves, dark ages) - liked the art
Mirage (African) - loved the art
Arabian Nights (Arabian) - great concept
Lorwyn (Celtic/British) - OK
Ice Age - Meh
Kamigawa (Oriental) - Meh

Another great block hopefully.

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Theme-wise, kamigawa was great. The cards just sucked (especially set 3 which shall not be named), and they didn't do enough Ninjas/Samurai/etc which are fun. Seriously, do you need to be TOLD to do more ninjas in a set with ninjas?

"well, we have ninjas in 2 colors, one set, and only like 10."

"WHY ARE YOU STILL STANDING HERE 5C NINJAS AND I WANT 50% OF THE SET TO BE NINJAS/SAMURAI! AND 50% of the NEXT SET AS WELL! ARE YOU STUPID? DO YOU JUST NOT LIKE AWESOME THINGS? YOU'RE FIRED!"

 
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quote:
Originally posted by deegeebee:

"God" as a creature type?

"God" as a planeswalker maybe.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by deegeebee:
"God" as a creature type?

Gonna be rough when my "God" gets trampled over by a birds of paradise with rancor

 
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Maybe a god planeswalker that can put emrakul copies into play
 
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I think it's going to be five cards that'll require you to play all of them. After doing so, you'll win the game.

Yes, I know those weren't God cards :3

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Kyosukee on March 25, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Kyosukee:
I think it's going to be five cards that'll require you to play all of them. After doing so, you'll win the game.

Yes, I know those weren't God cards :3


LOL assembling Exodia was just Yu Gi Oh's version of a combo deck. I guess they didn't think their clientele would be able to find the combo in a mess of cards if it wasn't explicitly written on them.


quote:
Originally posted by walkerdog:

"WHY ARE YOU STILL STANDING HERE 5C NINJAS AND I WANT 50% OF THE SET TO BE NINJAS/SAMURAI! AND 50% of the NEXT SET AS WELL! ARE YOU STUPID? DO YOU JUST NOT LIKE AWESOME THINGS? YOU'RE FIRED!"


The multiverse needs more pirates.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on March 25, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by marlo213:
Gonna be rough when my "God" gets trampled over by a birds of paradise with rancor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30lGrarz3MQ

 
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:


The multiverse needs more pirates.


If MTG ever based a block on pirates I'd be at full mast and blow my cannon balls all over the deck.

That would be an AWSOME set theme.

Wish they stuck with the horror theme through the entire Innistrad block...I love that kind of lore, AVR sucked.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
Ice Age - Meh
Kamigawa (Oriental) - Meh

Someone poined out already that Kamigawa, flavor-wise, wasn't that bad. It could have been better designed.

I also disagree on Ice Age. It's very recognizable to have snow creatures or permanents and to do something with them. While Cumulative upkeep wasn't Wizards finest hour, snow permanents introduced in Coldsnap were great imo! I don't see why snow couldn't have a more substantial part in Magic. After all, parts of Ravnica could be underneath a layer of snow, maybe in the Azorius part?

"Too damned cold"
Enchantment - WW

If you control five or more snow lands, all permanents you control become snow permanents in addition to their other types. Whenever you play an Instant or Sorcery, that spell gains the type -Snow- in addition to its other types.

I'd refer back to the 'you make the card' thing we had months ago on this site, where I made a good snow cycle, but I can't find it this quickly.

anyways, Greek Myths sound cool.

quote:
Originally posted by daner:
If MTG ever based a block on pirates I'd be at full mast and blow my cannon balls all over the deck.

That would be an AWSOME set theme.


Although I love pirates, I don't think wizards will go there. They might splash in a few here and there, but imagine a green or white pirate?

I would't mind a plane that almost only consists out of water. Then you'd get pirates .

then again, I don't need to see your full mast spouting cannon balls all over the place..

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by AEther Storm on March 26, 2013]

 
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I think Pirates works if you theme it kind of Lego pirates/One piece style with pirates, savages, the occasional monster/shark/etc, and imperial guards of some sort. I would imagine you'd want pirates in every color, but mostly in Grixis colors, while imperials would be WU-heavy(and maybe a splash of Black/Red), and Green would be predominantly savages/monsters. You could also have explorers/adventurers in all colors.

You don't say "Hey, it's a pirate block" as much as you say "Hey, it's a seafaring/explorer/pirate block" or something.

 
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The Grixis colors are obvious, as are the U/W counterparts. I'm having trouble putting Green (and Red to an extent, too) in there, but it could work I suppose. There could be pirates in flying vessels, maybe a Goblin on deck here and there.
Finally an excuse to reprint Dwarven Sea Clan and Goblin Flotilla..

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The green guys would be fierce warriors - let's get some Inca-style flavor in the set too (complementing the explorer and the imperial army themes).
 
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quote:
Originally posted by walkerdog:
The green guys would be fierce warriors - let's get some Inca-style flavor in the set too (complementing the explorer and the imperial army themes).

This made me think of "Portal: The Americas" - how neat it could be and how much backlash Wizard's would probably get from any culture given the black color.

 
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Screw Dragon's Maze i'd rather skip to this.

The potential template for this plane could of came from the planechase plane Arkhos. Notiable locations on this plane are Lethe Lake and River of Tears.

Hopefully we will see Vela the Night-Clad and Krond the Dawn-Clad.

Possibly art from this set?
http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=413874
http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=413872

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
This made me think of "Portal: The Americas" - how neat it could be and how much backlash Wizard's would probably get from any culture given the black color.

As long as they weren't stupid/offensive, I don't see them getting backlash. They did Masques, and that was a sweet african/middle eastern themed set.

 
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River of tears cycle!!!!!!!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by walkerdog:
As long as they weren't stupid/offensive, I don't see them getting backlash. They did Masques, and that was a sweet african/middle eastern themed set.

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Arabian Nights, Mirage, and Visions?

The logical way to setup a portal set is to may each culture be a different color. For example, all Inca cards are green, all Aztec cards are red. Portal, Three Kingdoms is done this way. Portal is supposed to be simple, and this is the simplest way to set it up.

The problem is that if you make a culture black, people could react, "Black is the color of amorality! Are you saying Inca are all amoral?!"

Maybe I am overreacting. They did do this in three kingdoms and I wasn't able to find any complaints about Wei being cast as black. However; I have a feeling that Americans identify more with these cultures than Chinese do, and Magic is also a much bigger game now. The potential of offending a random person is higher.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Are you sure you aren't thinking of Arabian Nights, Mirage, and Visions?

The logical way to setup a portal set is to may each culture be a different color. For example, all Inca cards are green, all Aztec cards are red. Portal, Three Kingdoms is done this way. Portal is supposed to be simple, and this is the simplest way to set it up.

The problem is that if you make a culture black, people could react, "Black is the color of amorality! Are you saying Inca are all amoral?!"

Maybe I am overreacting. They did do this in three kingdoms and I wasn't able to find any complaints about Wei being cast as black. However; I have a feeling that Americans identify more with these cultures than Chinese do, and Magic is also a much bigger game now. The potential of offending a random person is higher.


No. Just... no. The whole "each color is a tribe" thing is outdated design philosophy. That's why the most recent examples of tribal card design (the werewolves, spirits, zombies, humans of innistrad) bleed into multiple colors based on the flavor of the set. Black (mana) humans in ISD were usually pariahs of society, i.e. the ghoulcallers, heretics, cultists, etc. They reflect the naked ambition of black. They've been doing this since lorwyn (and arguably Kamigawa). Even the historical tribes of goblins and merfolk bled into other colors during lorwyn.

Bottom line - I wouldn't expect a strong tribal element in any new set to only encompass a single color.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
No. Just... no. The whole "each color is a tribe" thing is outdated design philosophy. That's why the most recent examples of tribal card design (the werewolves, spirits, zombies, humans of innistrad) bleed into multiple colors based on the flavor of the set. Black (mana) humans in ISD were usually pariahs of society, i.e. the ghoulcallers, heretics, cultists, etc. They reflect the naked ambition of black. They've been doing this since lorwyn (and arguably Kamigawa). Even the historical tribes of goblins and merfolk bled into other colors during lorwyn.

Bottom line - I wouldn't expect a strong tribal element in any new set to only encompass a single color.


Wei was black because they were the villains in the Three Kingdoms story.

 

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