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Marvin Austria
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posted April 20, 2013 01:56 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Marvin Austria Click Here to Email Marvin Austria Send a private message to Marvin Austria Click to send Marvin Austria an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Marvin Austria's Have/Want ListView Marvin Austria's Have/Want List
Hey guys!

I am wondering what's the difference btw BGS and PSA

Which one is more appreciated?
On an example, lets say a card is BGS 9 and PSA 9
is it has "hard" to get a 9 on BGS as on PSA?
or is it easier with one then the other

Which one gets the better premium?

-Marvin

 
rdennis81
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posted April 21, 2013 08:03 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for rdennis81 Click Here to Email rdennis81 Send a private message to rdennis81 Click to send rdennis81 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Main difference is that BGS gives subgrades which result in a more thorough grade (centering, edges, corners, surface).

BGS 10 is most valuable by far. PSA 10 is slightly more valuable than BGS 9.5. BGS 9 and PSA 9 typically have similar values.

Grading (even professional) can be quite subjective. I'd value a PSA 9 higher than a BGS 9 with a subrade of 8.5 for corners or edges, but I'd value a BGS 9 with subgrades of 9.5 for corners and edges higher than PSA 9.

As for what grade is easier to get, it depends on the particular flaw a card may have. BGS puts a bit more weight on centering and surface than PSA does.

Quick example...

A card graded 8.5,9.5,9.5,9.5 (BGS 9) would probably have a pretty good shot at grading PSA 10 since the only issue with the card is the centering.

A card graded 10,8.5,9,9 (again BGS 9) might have trouble getting a PSA 9 grade because of the wear on the edges.

Hope this helps!

[Edited 2 times, lastly by rdennis81 on April 21, 2013]

 
Marvin Austria
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This helps very much thank you!

So, the premium a PSA 10 fetchs is pretty much equal to BGS 9.5?


Thank you very much

 
rdennis81
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posted April 21, 2013 07:01 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for rdennis81 Click Here to Email rdennis81 Send a private message to rdennis81 Click to send rdennis81 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'd guess that on average, the premium for a PSA 10 over a BGS 9.5 would be somewhere around 5-10%, but again it depends heavily on the subgrades.

At the two extremes...

A PSA 10 might be worth 10-20% more than a A BGS 9.5 with a 9 subgrade on corners or edges, while a PSA 10 might be worth less (yes less) than a BGS 9.5 with incredible subs like 9.5,10,10,9.5 (since it is just a half point shy of being a BGS 10).

 
Zachstax888
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posted April 21, 2013 07:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Zachstax888 Send a private message to Zachstax888 Click to send Zachstax888 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
rdennis, you are super thorough. Thank you for taking the time to answer this question. I learned quite a bit.

You're definitely right on what each company emphasizes. PSA is not as stringent on centering, but you can be pretty darn sure high grades with them have amazing edges/corners. The opposite with BGS in my experience. I had an 8.5 Sapphire with great centering, but quite a bit of scuffing/nicks on the edges.

Since I prefer PSA by preference, I look for a 9 grade with great centering, and the rest of the card is generally perfect, or the flaw is so infinitesimally minor that it seems ridiculous to me to pay the extreme premium going from 9 to 10 when comparing the two beautiful cards.

My $0.02

 
thulnanth
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posted April 22, 2013 12:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for thulnanth Click Here to Email thulnanth Send a private message to thulnanth Click to send thulnanth an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hey rdennis81,

Nice reply - well thought out. Having graded over 500 cards myself and purchased many more, I agree with you 100%. Thanks for your reply.

Take it easy,
Jared

 
coolio
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posted April 24, 2013 04:59 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for coolio Click Here to Email coolio Send a private message to coolio Click to send coolio an Instant MessageVisit coolio's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i know a good amt of collectors who'll take bgs 9.5 with subgrades of 9 over psa 10 any day

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