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jbark
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posted September 12, 2013 05:36 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for jbark Click Here to Email jbark Send a private message to jbark Click to send jbark an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View jbark's Have/Want ListView jbark's Have/Want List
Just a heads up there are some sweet 1/4 one card 3/4 of another card from FTV exiled miscuts on eBay. Dude wants $45+ for each one. Probably only one of a kind. Figured slinga or others would like to know.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mtg-Foil-Miscut-Lotus-Pe tal-FTV-Exiled-VHTF-/321206798523?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item4ac96ac8bb

[Edited 1 times, lastly by jbark on September 12, 2013]

 
edsillars
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posted September 12, 2013 05:45 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for edsillars Click Here to Email edsillars Send a private message to edsillars Click to send edsillars an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
FWIW, the seller pointed out in the item description that they are hand cut, not true miscuts. I doubt serious oddity collectors will touch these.
 
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posted September 12, 2013 05:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for coolio Click Here to Email coolio Send a private message to coolio Click to send coolio an Instant MessageVisit coolio's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Eli has these all over the fb group.. not one of a kind.. someone cut a sheet up

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jbark
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Ah thanks for the insight. Anyway good for others to avoid then lol
 
Tha Gunslinga
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posted September 13, 2013 05:24 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tha Gunslinga Click Here to Email Tha Gunslinga Send a private message to Tha Gunslinga Click to send Tha Gunslinga an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or SaleView Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or Sale
Hand-cut. He should be embarrassed to sell fakes.
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posted September 13, 2013 05:29 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for AGO Click Here to Email AGO Send a private message to AGO Click to send AGO an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View AGO's Trade Auction or SaleView AGO's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Hand-cut. He should be embarrassed to sell fakes.

Hard to see the embarrassment over the fat stacks of cash!

 
stab107
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posted September 13, 2013 05:43 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for stab107 Click Here to Email stab107 Send a private message to stab107 Click to send stab107 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View stab107's Have/Want ListView stab107's Have/Want List
There are likely only a handful of these sheets in existence. It is sad that someone would want to cut it up and sell it as a "miscut" .
 
jbark
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I looked closely at the pics and the corners look so bad. Its almost like he damaged the sheet and said "hey I have an idea" and then made it all worse.
 
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posted September 13, 2013 09:20 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
There are likely only a handful of these sheets in existence. It is sad that someone would want to cut it up and sell it as a "miscut" .

It seems to me it would worth more as the whole sheet? I've seen lots of miscuts for sale on ebay but never a whole sheet ... maybe I'm just not looking hard enough

 
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posted September 13, 2013 09:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JayC Click Here to Email JayC Send a private message to JayC Click to send JayC an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
This was a really dumb idea...
 
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posted September 13, 2013 12:48 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayC:
This was a really dumb idea...

The "miscuts" are worth more cut up. Though, he should have cut them up at least in an interesting way. It's stupid the way he did it with names on the bottom.

He should have been creative. Diagonal cuts. four-on-one cuts. Huge thick cut including the white border of the sheet. Etc.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
The "miscuts" are worth more cut up. Though, he should have cut them up at least in an interesting way. It's stupid the way he did it with names on the bottom.

He should have been creative. Diagonal cuts. four-on-one cuts. Huge thick cut including the white border of the sheet. Etc.


Well, you need your cuts to not be wasting huge chunks of card right? Like, you ideally get the most cards out of the sheet by not going too random.

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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
Hard to see the embarrassment over the fat stacks of cash!

Reputation is priceless. And honestly, whatever he gets will not really be worth it considering how much the sheet is worth, how much time it takes to sell the pieces, and how much hassle he goes through. Stuff like this disgusts me.

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This is a little off topic but is buying from people on that facebook page monitored at all?

On motl we have refs and bad sellers/traders get banned. Is there anything like this for the facebook page?

 
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posted September 14, 2013 12:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JayC Click Here to Email JayC Send a private message to JayC Click to send JayC an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Reputation is priceless. And honestly, whatever he gets will not really be worth it considering how much the sheet is worth, how much time it takes to sell the pieces, and how much hassle he goes through. Stuff like this disgusts me.

And, I would like to ask you - doesn't this ruin the idea of natural miscuts for you as a collector? I mean, who the hell wants a manufactured miscut? It's just 'not the same' in my opinion. It's almost like a proxy to me.

 
Tha Gunslinga
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That's another reason why I hate stuff like this.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
That's another reason why I hate stuff like this.

+1, well put JayC.

 
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posted September 14, 2013 07:42 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayC:
And, I would like to ask you - doesn't this ruin the idea of natural miscuts for you as a collector? I mean, who the hell wants a manufactured miscut? It's just 'not the same' in my opinion. It's almost like a proxy to me.

It must suck for miscut collectors. I consider these in same category as counterfeit - a person has created unauthorized cards. After the initial sale of these never expect them to be accurately represented when they are up for sale.

 
AGO
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quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Reputation is priceless. And honestly, whatever he gets will not really be worth it considering how much the sheet is worth, how much time it takes to sell the pieces, and how much hassle he goes through. Stuff like this disgusts me.

100% true. Makes me question if collecting miscuts is worth it. The desire to have the most badass miscuts outweighs whatever the sheet was worth. You can't really trust any miscut from this point on.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
100% true. Makes me question if collecting miscuts is worth it. The desire to have the most badass miscuts outweighs whatever the sheet was worth. You can't really trust any miscut from this point on.

The fakes are incredibly obvious. I know what's been cut up and what has not.

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I think your sig shouldn't single out Canadians like that. While it's been a couple Canadians recently, it is historically not the case that Canadians are the only low ref rippers. We should avoid all of them, right?

Also, a little more on topic, I've never been terribly interested in miscuts, but it seems super dumb to cut up an uncut sheet for any reason. Hell, why not cut it up diagonally if you're going to make your own miscuts?

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These fakes are obvious but not all counterfeit miscuts are, depending an access to equipment and financial motivation.

I raised the point on accurate future representation on the fb page but I don't think the folk there took too kindly to me.

 
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These fakes are obvious but not all counterfeit miscuts are, depending an access to equipment and financial motivation.

I raised the point on accurate future representation on the fb page but I don't think the folk there took too kindly to me.

 
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Its one of those things, you think you can make a quick extra buck so you do this.

Eventually after a bunch of years they might just be "miscuts" and not obvious cuts from a sheet.

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Those fakes are obvious to you, but there is a sucker born every minute. After these switch hands people aren't going to label these as cut from a sheet.
 

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