On there they say
On May 27, 2009 an out-of-town collector walked into our retail store with an unbelievable collection of Summer Magic / Edgar cards to sell to us. Included in this collection was over 300 cards. He had been trying to complete a full set. It had 30 rares including Shivan Dragon, Nevinyrral's Disk, and 4 Dual Lands as well as 2 Blue Hurricanes, Sol Ring, Swords to Plowshares, as well as just about every other good uncommon and common. Just to put into perspective how incredibly rare these cards are, ABUGames has been dealing in Magic cards for well over 10 years and has NEVER owned a single Summer Magic card, not even a basic land! We just had to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity. So after making one of the largest purchases we've ever made, we are now offering this fantastic selection that we don't expect ever to be able to offer again. Enjoy!

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Originally posted by matts4657:
This guy is a scam. He doesn't own any of the cards there and was banned from several Facebook groups not so long ago for being so.

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Regarding the collapsed Summer Magic market, this was news to me as well. It was mentioned in a FB post that he collapsed the market in about 2 months by:

"An old wizards employee consigned cards to <redacted> and <redacted> was supposed to sell them and get a commission. <redacted> failed to tell many people he was approaching about selling a set to how many Summer cards he had when asked. Some found out he had 10+ of every card and he has since pretty much single handedly destroy the prices of summer cards since they are no longer a rare as they used to be."

Not that I own any Summer Magic cards, but I find that ultra-niche market interesting to track.

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Originally posted by LandDestroyer:

http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=43563.10620

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Seems your link needs a log in to view.

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Originally posted by matts4657:
I indeed know what you are talking about, and yes some big Summer collectors are not happy with that, but being one myself, I can assure you that the market is still there. I had decided to sell my Summer collection a little before I heard those news (got a new house, gotta pay the bills!) and I must say that I got very good prices for my cards. Just in the last 2 weeks I sold around 11-12 Summer cards, some being in the 1k range. From what I can understand so far, people in the USA are panicking more than foreign collectors; the European and Australian markets are still very strong. Yes there are more cards out there than it was supposed to, but still the print run is still very very low compared to, let's say, Alpha. Summer won't go up in price this year because of this situation, but I firmly believe it will go up again sooner than later. Plus, more and more people are getting interested in this market, so the demand is there more than ever. My 2 cents.

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Originally posted by twol84:
We were being partially sarcastic with that flippant remark in the op. It is only a cover up in that there is more than most people think. Anyone who thinks summer is not hugely valuable is mistaken.

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And he's absolutely right. I hadn't heard about this guy until you just posted about it, but it honestly changes nothing. Just because he's in possession of 10 sets doesn't mean the markets are suddenly flush with cards. I doubt anyone seriously believed there were only 1 or 2 copies of any given card, unless they were badly misled. And I still stand by my guess that there are 30-50 sets in existence. This guy just happened to have 10 of them.

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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
What I find interesting is there had always been some speculation (at least among some circles) that there was a guy out there sitting on a ton of Summer cards. In fact, I'll quote twol84 here from page one:

And he's absolutely right. I hadn't heard about this guy until you just posted about it, but it honestly changes nothing. Just because he's in possession of 10 sets doesn't mean the markets are suddenly flush with cards. I doubt anyone seriously believed there were only 1 or 2 copies of any given card, unless they were badly misled. And I still stand by my guess that there are 30-50 sets in existence. This guy just happened to have 10 of them.

Is the market overreacting? Yes, that's what markets do. For anyone looking to get into Summer cards, now seems to be a prime time to do it.

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Ya. still interesting that for some people this DOUBLES the amount of summer they believed was out there :-p

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Originally posted by mm1983:
Assuming 100 boxes of Summer Revised got released back in 1994 that would mean there were at one time 3600 rares, 10800 uncommons, and 39600 commons out there. Revised as a set has 121 rares, 95 uncommons, and 75 commons, and 15 lands. This would also make for a total of roughly 30 complete sets of Summer that would have been produced and released into the market. Although possible after 20+ years I would find it hard to believe that about 1/3 of it is out there in possession by stores or single people as complete sets.

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Originally posted by matts4657:
Even if your maths are accurate and that 30 complete sets of Summer were printed, it is known that the majority of those cards were destroyed and some others gathered by ex WotC employees, which means that I don't think there could possibly be 30 full sets out there. Let's not forget that the cards kept by the WotC employees were probably mainly rares or great misprints (blue hurricane, serendib, etc.) This is why some commons or uncommons of this set are harder to find than some rares so I would find it really hard to believe that about 20 other sets (since there are 10-11 that are known to be complete so far)could possibly be built. And concerning this guy who has this ****load of cards at the moment, he mainly has various duplicates, not various full sets, which is a big difference, because of the explanation given above. It is almost impossible nowadays to build a full Summer set, especially with the prices that are outrageous for some key cards. The only way to get a full set is when you get one from a guy who's willing to let go of it all, and last time I heard, a set changed hands for about 350k, so very few people, even the die-hard collectors, can afford that.

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well to get more there are lots of posts on fb to follow. some of chang's definitely interesting. some interesting ones are here
https: //www.facebook.com/groups/101451849999399/for_sale_search/?forsalesearchtype=all&query=complete%20summer%20set&referral_surface=direct_link&availability=available

and here
http://oldschool-mtg.blogspot.com/2015/04/summer-time.html

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Originally posted by matts4657:
I didn't want to mention his name, but since you brought it up, this whole controversy is about Chang... He got a consignment from an ex WotC employee and he's trying to make the community believe those cards are his, and he even graded some. Summer collectors are very angry at him because in a matter of 2 months he showed too many Summer cards instead of doing it slowly. He's been bragging about all those cards he has even if they're not his, and as a matter of fact, he's also been publicly bashed by Brian on Facebook last week. To be honest I think it was about time, because as stated by numerous collectors, Chang is a compulsive liar and is nothing good to the community. A huge thread has been going on on the MTG Art Exchange forum, you should go read it. I believe it's just a matter of time before Chang loses the consignment and all those Summer cards are back in the hands of his owner. And yeah, I don't care about saying this out loud, as it's been said several times by several people in the last weeks.

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ya read a lot today on librariries and see the... love...people have for him.

http://forum.magiclibrarities.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8587&start=75

http://forum.magiclibrarities.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7801&start=15

and even old posts here
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/025202.html

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Originally posted by matts4657:
Yeah I participated to those threads, interesting ones.

For the MTG Art Exchange, I can't seem to link you directly, so scroll down to August 10, it's the one about the Original Art of Wrath of God that sold for 80k (Daniel claimed that, which is supposedly false, as confirmed by Brian). There are 401 comments, I hope you like to read haha.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
There's even a chance that any sealed revised boxes could very well be Summer Magic. To my knowledge there is nothing on the box indicating that it would be summer or not summer. You would just have to open it to find out and not many people do that these days with the prices of old sealed product on the rise.

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Originally posted by matts4657:
Even if your maths are accurate and that 30 complete sets of Summer were printed, it is known that the majority of those cards were destroyed and some others gathered by ex WotC employees, which means that I don't think there could possibly be 30 full sets out there. Let's not forget that the cards kept by the WotC employees were probably mainly rares or great misprints (blue hurricane, serendib, etc.) This is why some commons or uncommons of this set are harder to find than some rares so I would find it really hard to believe that about 20 other sets (since there are 10-11 that are known to be complete so far)could possibly be built. And concerning this guy who has this ****load of cards at the moment, he mainly has various duplicates, not various full sets, which is a big difference, because of the explanation given above. It is almost impossible nowadays to build a full Summer set, especially with the prices that are outrageous for some key cards. The only way to get a full set is when you get one from a guy who's willing to let go of it all, and last time I heard, a set changed hands for about 350k, so very few people, even the die-hard collectors, can afford that.

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By the way, the set's 11 cards. Took me nearly 7 years to get 11 cards.