There were some references a collector overseas having a playset of summer and that there are more Summer cards than people are led to believe. They also mentioned that much of it is located in Europe.

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Originally posted by mm1983:
It was rumored that Summer Revised was originally accidently shipped to certain European regions and to certain areas of the south east in the USA. I cannot confirm where I heard that information as I don't remember where I heard it but I would like to hear if anyone else has heard the same rumor over the years. As far as anyone owning a playset of any one Summer card I have not heard about it or seen it and same goes for anyone owning a full set of Summer Revised.

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I thought I read somewhere that the boxes were supposedly distributed in Tennessee and Ireland, but I may be mistaken.
Also, I know of 2, possibly 3 complete sets and several people have playsets of certain rares. Someone also broke up and sold a set on ebay a couple years back.

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Originally posted by isetfire:
I thought I read somewhere that the boxes were supposedly distributed in Tennessee and Ireland, but I may be mistaken.

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Also known as "Edgar" for a green "E" on the front of the boosters

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Originally posted by psrex:
The whole section there lost all credibility when I read:

Also known as "Edgar" for a green "E" on the front of the boosters

This is completely wrong.

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I'm guessing the green part came from the 3 unopened packs there were sold at gen con a few years ago. One of the few sealed summer packs to come out any time recently.

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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
I'm guessing the green part came from the 3 unopened packs there were sold at gen con a few years ago. One of the few sealed summer packs to come out any time recently.

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There were more than just the 3 Summer packs with green "E" on them. I personally have owned 5 that I purchased off T&T (who I believe got them directly from the person who put the markings on them to ID them - or they did, I can't recall). I have since opened 2 (got a Summer 9.5 BOP so not such a crazy idea). Sold 2 and still have one for myself.

So I think there were a few packs marked with the Edgar 'E'. How many remain sealed is another matter...

I almost bought couple of boosters from T&T when they still had 24 listed, but got cold feet, as the total cost was pretty high and T&T website was slow as molasses. I would have loved to own one booster and never foresaw the current price.

As for Edgar amounts, there might be more of the cool cards than some random uncommons, as a story tells that some WotC emplayees were given a chance to take some cards as mementos and blue Hurricane and some high end rares might have some additional in circulation due to this.

I think the key point I was trying to make was what if I told you that these "rumors"' about 1 shipment here, 1 shipment there was true to a certain degree. What if the amount of cases shipped was 3x or 4x then believed. What if there are multiple unopened summer boosters boxes out there, let alone packs...

What if "people" (I want to make it clear I'm not sure who I am talking about) knew it, and told everyone it was 2 cases here or there that was shipped out and that was it.
And this is was posted on the dealer websites, wikipedia pages, etc. and this is what's past down to sites like this. We do the math on this info and come up with something like 6-10 of each rare.....

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Originally posted by twol84:
To be honest, I've never heard of any serious summer collector come up with estimates of 6-10 per rare. We all know that summer is less rare than common perception would have it.

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Someone I trust is in the know told me not long ago that one of the big time dealers bought a 5000 count of summer cards as bulk a few years ago... Stands to reason that there's quite a few more than 6-8 of each rare when there's been at least 4 completed sets made & aside from the duals / BoP / Serendib Effret finding any particular rare isn't that hard.

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Originally posted by KIP_NZ:
Someone I trust is in the know told me not long ago that one of the big time dealers bought a 5000 count of summer cards as bulk a few years ago... Stands to reason that there's quite a few more than 6-8 of each rare when there's been at least 4 completed sets made & aside from the duals / BoP / Serendib Effret finding any particular rare isn't that hard.

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Which dealer? If we have such a huge influx of summer, someone would have noticed.

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Originally posted by twol84:
Which dealer? If we have such a huge influx of summer, someone would have noticed.

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Those in the know knew about it at the time. The super high end stuff went to set collectors, the rest was drip fed onto the market over several years.. The dealer is one of the big bulk guys who knew what he had.

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Originally posted by twol84:
I know about several large finds but I don't buy the 5000 number.

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Originally posted by slurpee:
I would call BS on the 5k, but then again I heard Chuck Norris has foil Summer cards.

no in all seriousness that would be 10 boxes to get to 5k. While that seems easy, it really isn't. Back when revised was out finding packs was not that easy. Most stores were sold out a lot or had limits on packs. Due to the popularity of the game at the time and lack of packs this is the only reason Fallen empires and homelands sold. Those sets were crap, but at a time when you just wanted more cards you bought what you could.

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